Kearney is not the problem

[lingard]

Not until the roster is finalised for next year.

Can`t attract players under this dick of a coach.

 

[Djay]

I don't think the fact that no ones knows who will be the coach next year doesn't help. Some players may want to come here, but not knowing what lies ahead is too much of a risk for them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Can`t attract players under this dick of a coach.

The entire squad, less Burt, Hayne, Hindmarsh, Horo, Moimoi, Poore and Shackleton signed for him. So did Hopoate, Lussick and Harrison.

That's a lot of young talent willing to play for him.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

1) if kearney does get shoved, it would be not be unreasonable given results. No tears on my behalf

but 2) he's one of the few individuals associated with this club over the past 10 or so years who consistently acts with a modicum of professional integrity. (ffs we have a president/chair who sees nothing wrong with the then CEO owing him money....what planet is our board on?)

I'd err on the side of keeping him on (I don't pretend to know everything...or to be right). I do know that chucking your coach every two years makes us a really enticing prospect for potential signings. About time we stopped doing it.

 

[spiderdan]

Wrong again - what we need now is a motivator.

i think what we need now is both.

 

[Eels Dude]

The entire squad, less Burt, Hayne, Hindmarsh, Horo, Moimoi, Poore and Shackleton signed for him. So did Hopoate, Lussick and Harrison.

That's a lot of young talent willing to play for him.

How many of them were offered contracts elsewhere though? A lot of them wouldn't have been.

 

[Djay]

How many of them were offered contracts elsewhere though? A lot of them wouldn't have been.

Not many players in our team, would be in first grade in other teams at the moment.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Not many players in our team, would be in first grade in other teams at the moment.

Fairly true...and 2 who would not get a run in many other run-on teams are club veterans.

 

[Djay]

Fairly true...and 2 who would not get a run in many other run-on teams are club veterans.

Burt would be in NSW cup where he belongs...

 

[The Colonel]

How many of them were offered contracts elsewhere though? A lot of them wouldn't have been.

Hopoate was one of the biggest coups in the NRL.

Sio was chased by the Dogs. Lussick was chased by a couple of clubs and Manly were very disappointed he left. Harrison - Dogs, Newcastle.

 

[Eels Dude]

Hopoate was one of the biggest coups in the NRL.

Sio was chased by the Dogs. Lussick was chased by a couple of clubs and Manly were very disappointed he left. Harrison - Dogs, Newcastle.

I'm still not sold on the Hoppa signing given we have to wait for 2 years for him to even join the club. If his signing ends up resulting in us being unable to retain Hayne I'll be filthy. Lussick hasn't really done much to earn his inflated price-tag and Harrison probably wouldn't have played any first grade this year if it weren't for the fact Tony Williams and Glenn Stewart have been unavailable most of the season. Now Stewart is back Harrison is back to 19th man. I don't see why anyone would be excited about him signing and I hope we aren't paying him any more than about 80k.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm still not sold on the Hoppa signing given we have to wait for 2 years for him to even join the club. If his signing ends up resulting in us being unable to retain Hayne I'll be filthy. Lussick hasn't really done much to earn his inflated price-tag and Harrison probably wouldn't have played any first grade this year if it weren't for the fact Tony Williams and Glenn Stewart have been unavailable most of the season. Now Stewart is back Harrison is back to 19th man. I don't see why anyone would be excited about him signing and I hope we aren't paying him any more than about 80k.

Lussick and Harrison are good signings because they will enable the stars who are already at the club. They are both young, strong and energetic.

Hopoate played centre in Origin while Hayne played wing, and he looks like being a much better influence at the club. I doubt he'll ever be as good as Hayne, but having the best player certainly doesn't guarantee a premiership.

 

[Eels Dude]

Lussick and Harrison are good signings because they will enable the stars who are already at the club. They are both young, strong and energetic.

Hopoate played centre in Origin while Hayne played wing, and he looks like being a much better influence at the club. I doubt he'll ever be as good as Hayne, but having the best player certainly doesn't guarantee a premiership.

We've already got players like that in Ryan, Paulo, and Allgood and we don't seem to be doing well with that youthful enthusiasm this year. What we need is proven first grade forwards in the prime of their careers to complement the youngsters we already have.

I don't know what you mean about Hopoate being a better influence at the club. You've just pulled that one from nowhere.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We've already got players like that in Ryan, Paulo, and Allgood and we don't seem to be doing well with that youthful enthusiasm this year.

It could also be said that we don't have enough of it.

What we need is proven first grade forwards in the prime of their careers to complement the youngsters we already have.

That would indeed be awesome, but if those guys are unavailable, the next best is to sign guys approaching their prime, who have already shown they can handle first grade - guys like Lussick and Harrison.

I don't know what you mean about Hopoate being a better influence at the club. You've just pulled that one from nowhere.

No, I'm going off all the people who talked up for his character last year - from Kearney to Hasler to Ricky Stuart. Who ever says Jarryd Hayne is a quality person?

 

[Shakamaker]

Kearney has tried really has, I think just looking at his press conferences he has just about given in and does not know what else to try.

The problem is in the squad and when you look at the 1-17 and you sit back no matter how much of hardcore eels fan you are and you say wow that is a really bad team no real strength area anywhere.

Guys like Hindy,Matiua,Burt,Smith,Poore,MoiMoi,Morgan,Keating,Roberts are all not NRL standard anymore at the level where you will be top 8 contenders and does not help when the NSW cup team is not even worth looking at.


Yes Kearney took a stab and recruited guys like Sandow and Tonga who both come with big reps and lets face it if you where in the same situation like he was last year you would have have tried to sign these 2 players as well if you had the chance.

Yes they have not worked out but at the start of the year I came in here and read about how all you guys are excited about Sandow and Tonga.


I think just give kearney a season or 2 more he needs to clear out so much dead wood that is stuck at eels at the moment it will take time as there is so much dead wood on the squad.

You have good youngsters coming through in the backs like sio and blair and decent 2nd rowers in paulo and ryan as well.

Also don't forget you have Hayne one of the best players in the game and you can always build a team around him for the next 3-4 years you guys will be top of the tree again if you guys can recruit some top class 2nd rowers.

Your loyalty is heart warming however Stephen Kearney is way out of his depths as a first grade coach.

To suggest Kearney needs 2 further seasons to prove himself is ludicrous. When you consider the money of Parramattas that he has spent on the current squad and to see the results he's has now after two seasons, is dismal at best.

What the Parramatta Board won't admit is that Daniel Anderson was a good coach with a consistent record. His results showed a grand final performance and just narrowly missing the eight out of two seasons. If you compared the coaching statistics of Stephen Kearney to Daniel Anderson after two seasons, it would be highly hypocritical of the current Eels board to suggest Kearney be allowed another season.

Kearney is a nice bloke and a great human being. However as a leader of a first grade squad and Eels playing roster, he is struggling to tread above water. I wish him success in his future endeavours

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Your loyalty is heart warming

He's a Broncos fan. Who exactly do you think he's loyal to?

 

[Eels Dude]

It could also be said that we don't have enough of it.

We've also got a stack of it in our halves and outside backs like Sio, Blair, Morgan, Loko, Mullaney, Kelly, Sandow... How much youthful enthusiasm do you want?

That would indeed be awesome, but if those guys are unavailable, the next best is to sign guys approaching their prime, who have already shown they can handle first grade - guys like Lussick and Harrison.

They weren't unavailable. We just missed out on their signatures as they favoured other clubs. Bob Bentley even admitted the other day we'd missed out on a number of players we had targetted. And it's not surprising really given how we've performed on the field the past 18 months.

No, I'm going off all the people who talked up for his character last year - from Kearney to Hasler to Ricky Stuart. Who ever says Jarryd Hayne is a quality person?

Who says he isn't? You've just pulled that from nowhere.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I`d be willing to bet you a f*cking sheep station you`re wrong about that.

Be careful mate......

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We've also got a stack of it in our halves and outside backs like Sio, Blair, Morgan, Loko, Mullaney, Kelly, Sandow... How much youthful enthusiasm do you want?

A bit more in the forwards would be good.

They weren't unavailable. We just missed out on their signatures as they favoured other clubs. Bob Bentley even admitted the other day we'd missed out on a number of players we had targetted. And it's not surprising really given how we've performed on the field the past 18 months.

We're not the only club that missed out on those players, and now our spine is sorted out there's no need to throw stupid money at big names just for the sake of it. That's what got us into trouble with Justin Poore.

Who says he isn't?

My point was that people talk up Will Hopoate's character. The fact people do that for him but not for Jarryd Hayne means it is irrelevant whether or not anyone criticises Hayne's character. Because I'm comparing Hopoate's character to Hayne's, as you well know.

And you criticise my grasp of logic.

You've just pulled that from nowhere.

I just told you where I pulled it from. People compliment Hopoate's character but not Hayne's. Ergo, Hopoate is likely to be a better influence around the club than Hayne. This is not a condemnation of Jarryd Hayne; it is praise of Will Hopoate.

But it's also a comparison, which you seem to have a problem with. Do you just not like Hopoate because he was signed by Kearney?

 

[Eels Dude]

A bit more in the forwards would be good.

There's plenty in the forwards. Unless you want our entire pack to be youngsters that is

We're not the only club that missed out on those players, and now our spine is sorted out there's no need to throw stupid money at big names just for the sake of it. That's what got us into trouble with Justin Poore.

We don't need to throw stupid money. Just reasonable money for the value of experienced first graders. We may not be the only club to miss out, but we are the one club to miss out on all of targets.

My point was that people talk up Will Hopoate's character. The fact people do that for him but not for Jarryd Hayne means it is irrelevant whether or not anyone criticises Hayne's character. Because I'm comparing Hopoate's character to Hayne's, as you well know.

I don't believe Hopoate has received any more praise as an individual and for his character than Hayne has. You're making a statement without backing it up with anything. I can recall countless times I've read reports of those praising Hayne and his attitude and his character but if you choose to ignore those and only read the ones about Hoppa well I can't help you there. It's just a blind statement.

I just told you where I pulled it from. People compliment Hopoate's character but not Hayne's. Ergo, Hopoate is likely to be a better influence around the club than Hayne. This is not a condemnation of Jarryd Hayne; it is praise of Will Hopoate.


But it's also a comparison, which you seem to have a problem with. Do you just not like Hopoate because he was signed by Kearney?

As above. You haven't explained where you pulled it from at all apart from "such and such complimented him once". I rate Hoppa, look forward to watching him play for us, but he's no Jarryd Hayne.