Kearney weilds the axe.

[jaseg]

The otheer centre is Adam Pompey, hes not in the squad of 30 but just kills it. Beale has experinace over Pompey and Herbert but thats all. They shit over him

That's a shame RE Pompey, was wondering (although there is supposed to be only 29 named at this stage, I think?)... every time I've seen him so far he's looked really, really good. I see he's a 2x O'Sullivan signing... brought him over to the Roosters, and now back to the Warriors. Herbert looking good, too.

I'd still take Beale over Kata if nothing else was available... I've just had enough of him. He's a 90 game NRL player who can't do the basics.

 

[Big Marn]

I've had enough of him too. Like you said 90 games and he still can't do the basics.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

I'm not saying Fusitua is not a good player.

What I'm saying he is not a good winger for 80m of the field. Inside the opposition 20m he awesome for bombs and corner finishes.

I struggle to think of anything he does good outside of that apart from the odd kick off the set run.

He doesn't get involved.

I'm sorry, but Cotric is a superior player to Fusitua. Have you seen the tries Cotric scores?

They are killer. He runs them in from everywhere.

When was the last time you saw Fusitua light up a field on the attack?

Has he ever scored a try from behind half way? His highlight reel is essentially handovers from SJ.

Last year almost all those tryies were inside the opposition 10m!

SJ is gone now Fusitua has very little to offer.

Better than Oates? NO

Oates is State of Origin player. A bloody good player.

RTS would do whatever helped the team I believe.

Put RTS at 6, Fusitua at 1 and Perham on the wing and we look a bit stronger wouldn't you agree?

You put RTS at 6 and its goodbye RTS. He'll leave! I only agree on Fus at the back but we have one of the world's best so it's not broke there so no need to fix there.

Completely disagree that Cotric and Oates is better than Fus. If Fus keeps playing crap, well then I might change my mind but 1 bad game doesnt mean hes not as good or better than Cotric or Oates.

We need REAL solutions.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Has he ever scored a try from behind half way?

Yep last year against the Panthers. Come on man...

 

[JJ]

You put RTS at 6 and its goodbye RTS. He'll leave! I only agree on Fus at the back but we have one of the world's best so it's not broke there so no need to fix there.

Completely disagree that Cotric and Oates is better than Fus. If Fus keeps playing crap, well then I might change my mind but 1 bad game doesnt mean hes not as good or better than Cotric or Oates.

We need REAL solutions.

.[/QUOTE]


Cotric >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fus... it's not even close IMO, that kid is very special... Oates is a better comparison.... Fus is good, no mistake, but he's been flat this year

Agree on the LOL nature of RTS at stand-off... he's a terrific fullback, but to be fair he doesn't yet have the ball playing ability of some of them... and fullback is as influential position as any at the moment, why would you shift your Dally M winning fullback to a new position... unlike the likes of Lockyer and Moylan he's not someone with the obvious skill set to play well there

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Cotric >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fus... it's not even close IMO, that kid is very special...

So good is Cotric...has he made an Origin side or even the Roos?

I agree hes special talent cos hes very powerful and then hes agile as well. Qualities that you wish for but I honestly dont rate him over the Fus man. Just under.

 

[Iron Lion]

So good is Cotric...has he made an Origin side or even the Roos?

I agree hes special talent cos hes very powerful and then hes agile as well. Qualities that you wish for but I honestly dont rate him over the Fus man. Just under.

Given he only recently turned 20 years old he is one of the hottest properties in rugby league.

Fusitua is good player but he is nowhere near the threat of Nick Cotric.

Nick Cotric is RED ALERT territory.

Can you genuinely call Fusitua a threat with the ball in hand?

Apart from bombs, what about Fusitua would scare his opposite?

For such a big guy he doesn't use any of his size.

I want Fusitua to get involved and force some game out of him. FB or centre

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Can you genuinely call Fusitua a threat with the ball in hand?

I'm going to do you a favour and put this question more to the point that I think you're trying to get at.

Is Fus a LINE BREAKER? we don't see much of Fus breaking the line on his own. Maybe not as much as Cotric does. Fus just runs straight and hard thus giving him good post contact metres because Fus is quite solid. As I said before - Cotric is a powerful runner with good agility. He's very similar to Jermaine McGillvary.

They're both threats with ball in hand but I think we've seen more line breaks from Cotric. He shows off those qualities to get around his opponent. Fus and Ken only got one thing in mind but Fus has broken on a few occasions just running straight, through.

Apart from bombs, what about Fusitua would scare his opposite?

His ability to score tries. He scores more than ALL of his opposites last year.

There you go. All your questions answered

 

[guten_targ]

What I'm saying he is not a good winger for 80m of the field. Inside the opposition 20m he awesome for bombs and corner finishes.

I'm sorry, but Cotric is a superior player to Fusitua. Have you seen the tries Cotric scores?

They are killer. He runs them in from everywhere.

I have never seen an 80m of the field winger, closest to that type in my opinion was Irvine and E.T, but yes every once in awhile a winger will run 80 metres, but tell me, how often does that happen?

No way in hell is Cotric a superior player to Fus and no he doesn't run them in from everywhere, little bit exaggerated I feel but just like Fus, Cotric has scored some nice tries.

Oates is a better complete player in all facets of game play except Fus i rate the better finisher when running in those tries that the aforementioned struggle to score.When mentioning Oates, you also have to mention and look at who he has running around and beside him. Brisbane?, Warriors?, Brisbane?...yeah huge difference in class right there

 

[Big Marn]

first season as an 18 year old he scores 16 tries.
And pretty sure most people remember last year in Canberra when 4 Warriors players couldnt stop him scoring a try.

https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/03/26/rd-3-play-of-the-week-nick-cotric-try/

Different players with different strengths. Cotric more likely to create a try out of nothing from anywhere on the field, whereas Fus is deadly close to the line.

Trouble with Fus is, now that SJ is gone, who is going to get Fus those sniffs at the goal line that he needs created for him?

 

[guten_targ]

first season as an 18 year old he scores 16 tries.

Played 24 matches too from memory, Fus I believe played half that in his first season scored 6, 7 as fill in for that Francis Meli lookalike that also let in more than he could score, You know the bloke? the feller that cant catch. I think Fus had a couple games the next season and scored a try or two I think...not sure, memory isn't what it used to be.

And pretty sure most people remember last year in Canberra when 4 Warriors players couldnt stop him scoring a try.

https://www.raiders.com.au/news/2018/03/26/rd-3-play-of-the-week-nick-cotric-try/

Yep scored with a lot of fight, but still does not make him a better player, considering Fus has scored a number that I have not seen anyone else score as often as he has in comparison. by the way I think everyone will also remember, the Warriors won that match

Different players with different strengths. Cotric more likely to create a try out of nothing from anywhere on the field, whereas Fus is deadly close to the line.

and Fus has out scored Cotric in the same time frame, if you look at it 48 matches for Cotric = 28 tries, Fus 47 matches = 35 tries, does not include rep matches.

Trouble with Fus is, now that SJ is gone, who is going to get Fus those sniffs at the goal line that he needs created for him?

Indeed who will get him there? therein is the problem, now those sniffs may also be created for him, but he is the one pulling them off, the man touching the ball down and honestly a few of those tries should not be scored, yet are, why is that?

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Trouble with Fus is, now that SJ is gone, who is going to get Fus those sniffs at the goal line that he needs created for him?

CHT apparently.

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

So good is Cotric...has he made an Origin side or even the Roos?

I agree hes special talent cos hes very powerful and then hes agile as well. Qualities that you wish for but I honestly dont rate him over the Fus man. Just under.

Cotric was 18th man in SOO? He is on the cusp of getting his SOO debut. Hes young too and I think its funny you defend Fus. He is pretty invisible in most parts of our game. Air balls and finishes can only get you so far you need more to your skill set than just those 2 things. I want to see Fus angry he seems so placid and in the cloud not getting involved a whole lot.

I'd swap Fus for Cotric any day of the week.

Oates is a special player too.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

I think 95% of league fans would be going with Cotric if given the choice , he is a rare talent

A lot being made of the try numbers being the be all and end all, I remember Denan Kemp having a big year try wise when the Warriors signed him. There is more to good wing play than that these days, and I think cotric shades fus in most of those areas

 

[guten_targ]

There is more to good wing play than that these days, and I think cotric shades fus in most of those areas

I can agree with that, I also put it down to the calibre of player inside him being better at the team schematic unlike the warriors, but like hell should the Warriors buy him from Canberra, they'll end up turning an up and comer into a has been in record time...lets not

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Cotric was 18th man in SOO? He is on the cusp of getting his SOO debut. Hes young too and I think its funny you defend Fus. He is pretty invisible in most parts of our game. Air balls and finishes can only get you so far you need more to your skill set than just those 2 things. I want to see Fus angry he seems so placid and in the cloud not getting involved a whole lot.

I'd swap Fus for Cotric any day of the week.

Oates is a special player too.

Cotric hasn't played Origin. Like I said before - he's very good.

Fus is better IMO. I'm not changing my mind until Fus starts playing really really bad. Like Hiku bad. I like Fus better. Just like you rate Hiku highly (and fair enough, each to their own).

Different tastes.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

I think 95% of league fans would be going with Cotric if given the choice , he is a rare talent

LOL lets be real - you DO NOT speak on behalf of 95% of league fans so fuugg up. Seriously, you don't. I think you're wrong on that one.

 

[Rich102]

He didn't say he was speaking on behalf of 95% of league fans. He said he thought 95% of league fans would go with Cotric.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

I can agree with that, I also put it down to the calibre of player inside him being better at the team schematic unlike the warriors, but like hell should the Warriors buy him from Canberra, they'll end up turning an up and comer into a has been in record time...lets not

100% correct, look what playing outside Lyon did for the likes of Wolfman and Hiku, similar thing for guys that played outside Matt Gidley through his career, most notably Tahu

Cotric is lucky to have a good centre like Croker inside him, but he also has the ability to create himself as well with footwork and power which makes him a top shelf prospect

 

[Beavers Headgear]

LOL lets be real - you DO NOT speak on behalf of 95% of league fans so fuugg up. Seriously, you don't. I think you're wrong on that one.

Lol did you forget the sugar on your cornflakes this morning ?