Kearney

[Rich102]

This is what confuses me as well Twizzle.

I was talking to people in my family yesterday (they are all Parra fans) about this....
Say we are told today by Paul Osbourne that Daniel Anderson is gone and we do have a choice between Stephen Kearney and Ricky Stuart; who do we pick?
The logical choice is Ricky Stuart.

Why?
He is a proven NRL coach that has a premiership to his name, and yes he may have been terrible at the Sharks in 2009 and 2010 but look at his accomplishments and look at the stuff that other coaches go through; many good coaches go through bad seasons, a change of setting is often the perfect place to send a new coach and they can immediately make a positive impact. Look at Brian Smith this year, for the past few years he has struggled with the Knights, give him a change to a Roosters team and they are in a Grand Final.

We have to remember also that the Sharks relied heavily on Brett Kimmoreley, and it's no doubt that after a great 2008 season, they were near wooden spooners the two years following his departure. Without him, they have no attacking talent; it's why they have been so good in defence. The great positive about the Sharkies has always been their forward pack, the sad thing was that their halves in particular and also outside backs were generally not good enough to set up tries or attacking plays.
This will change, and along with a new coach it can bring massive positive change to the Sharks.

I believe it can do the same here with Sticky.
Would you rather take an unproven NRL coach (in first-grade) over a proven premiership winning NRL coach???

I agree with Noa's sentiments however that Kearney is a big reason the Storm go so well, he is a great assistant coach for them.
I guess the board's thinking is that he will bring some of the Melbourne Storm culture and experience with him; being tutored under Craig Bellamy is huge....could very well turn out to be what we need to have new attacking structure and have a coach that our players want to perform under; the big thing about the Storm over the past four years has largely been their consistency.

However, in saying that......it is still strange that they would pick Kearney over a proven coach.....which is why I raised this question to my family-does the board believe that he will bring something specific to us? Do they believe he will bring some Storm players with him or something? (Fat chance). Yes we have heard the rumours of Cronk and Adam Blair wanting to leave.....but surely that isn't the case.
Or perhaps Kearney has a good recruitment plan that he has told the board....
We will have to wait and see I guess.

IN any case, whoever the new coach is, we must stick up for them 100%. If we don't, and the board doesn't, we may as well accept the spoon....

Shouldn't the same support apply for Anderson?

 

[Eels Dude]

You do realise that we're more or less in the same situation as Sharks 2009/10. we don't have a halfback. Sticky cant win anything without a good halfback.

And it was his fault because he released Kimmorley midway through his contract to sign Barrett. Look how that worked out.

I think Ando deserves another year. My jury is out on Kearney. Just because he's been Bellamy's assistant doesn't mean he's going to be a great coach himself. Stuart, meh, he tears down clubs from the inside. If we had Stuart as coach there'd be a lot of player unrest and a lot of contracts not honoured which is not a good thing.

 

[Eels Dude]

T
The logical choice is Ricky Stuart.

Why?
He is a proven NRL coach that has a premiership to his name, and yes he may have been terrible at the Sharks in 2009 and 2010 but look at his accomplishments and look at the stuff that other coaches go through; many good coaches go through bad seasons, a change of setting is often the perfect place to send a new coach and they can immediately make a positive impact. Look at Brian Smith this year, for the past few years he has struggled with the Knights, give him a change to a Roosters team and they are in a Grand Final.

We have to remember also that the Sharks relied heavily on Brett Kimmoreley, and it's no doubt that after a great 2008 season, they were near wooden spooners the two years following his departure. Without him, they have no attacking talent; it's why they have been so good in defence. The great positive about the Sharkies has always been their forward pack, the sad thing was that their halves in particular and also outside backs were generally not good enough to set up tries or attacking plays.

Stuart shot himself in the foot by releasing Kimmorley early, it was his decision and it was a bad one. I worry about Ricky Stuart and his half back dilemnas. Look at the amount of halfbacks he's signed but gotten rid of or not persevered with over the years. Craig Wing, Brett Finch, Paul Green, Jamie Soward, Brett Kimmorley, Brett Seymour, Scott Porter, Blake Green. Playing halfback under Ricky Stuart is going to be detrimental to any half's career because no-one is good enough for him.

Ricky would probably come along and do a massive cleanout. Something we don't really need as we have a very strong forward. Talented outside backs who didn't perform this year, mainly because there was a lack of direction from the halves. And Stuart is the last coach in the world you'd bring in to solve a halfback problem.

 

[ROGUE]

I'd rather have Kearney than Stuart tbh.

I'd rather folkes than either of them

 

[El Diablo]

bring back Hages!

 

[Parra09]

We've got a couple of VERY good assistants just across the coridoor......

 

[Iafeta]

John Ackland? i think is his name. He was assistant coach to tony Kemp i think a few years back.

Ivan Cleary and Kevin Campion were assistant coaches to Tony Kemp. John Ackland was assistant coach from 08-09 from memory to Ivan. Tony Iro was the U20s coach 2008-2009 before the two swapped roles. Ackland is a heck of a good scout, he was working with the Bulldogs when they picked up $BW and Roy Asotasi.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

If Kearney is the coach, can you see Sharpy hanging around? Maybe they will completely clean out the coaching ranks and put a club legend in to assist Kearney with learning this great club, and then Bret Kenny is one step away from his beloved head coach position with a pay rise that will see him stop running to the press claiming he is broke.

 

[spartan2153]

ricky stuart released isac degois to sign corey hughes. That says all you need to know about his talent assesment

 

[Suitman]

you've gotta get your first coaching gig somewhere .... he's been assistant long enough to have picked up a thing or 2

i am not confident anything will improve any time soon - and i don't think the board have done a great job - but i'm not gonna die over whatever happens - sh*t happens

Exactly. John Cartwright hadn't coached first grade before he took the Titans gig.

Suity

 

[hineyrulz]

ricky stuart released isac degois to sign corey hughes. That says all you need to know about his talent assesment

And Kinga, Stuart is a shocking coach. Kearney ahead of him any day of the week.

 

[Noise]

Does this guy even have a resume ?

He's never coached an NRL club before.

I'm not here to diss the guy but I cannot understand how our board can consider a coach with no achievements over a guy who got us the the GF last year.

Surley this is a kneejerk reaction by an inexperienced board, should it proceed, rather than a reflection of Anderson's performance over the two seasons that he has been in charge.

Even Benny's Broncos failed to make the 8 after winning a GF, imagine if he was sacked over that years performance.

When was this? i thought this year was the 1st time the broncos hadnt made the semis in 18 or 19 years?

 

[Gronk]

Exactly. John Cartwright hadn't coached first grade before he took the Titans gig.

Suity

I rekon Craig Colman could coach the Titans with Prince on fire.

 

[IFR33K]

Steve folkes > jason Taylor > stuart=kearney.

Maybe we can get jim dymick over as coach, and he will bring back mateo.:sarcasm::sarcasm:

 

[eel4life]

Kearney is ready for the big time, he has been an assistant down there for a long time, he has served his apprenticeship now it is time for a big gig.

He is ready for it and i would pick him for us, he is a good fit.

 

[Suitman]

I rekon Craig Colman could coach the Titans with Prince on fire.

Absolutely no f**king chance mate. :lol:

Coleman = Langmack = Fairleigh.

Suity

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Exactly. John Cartwright hadn't coached first grade before he took the Titans gig.

Suity

And that has been a 4 year project.

 

[mrpwnd]

Kearney will be a great coach, much of the Storms dominance can be put down to him. Sure you'll say cheats, boats, blah-blah-blah, but being overpaid played no role whatsover in the turnaround in the Stoms game, which began at the end of the 2005 season when Stephen became assistant coach.

Coincidentally, that's just about the time when the cheating became a bit more apparent.
There is simply nothing on Kearney's record to state that he is anywhere near a first grade coach.
Some bloke said he could instill some passion into the players?
Take a careful look at what happened this year, we definately need alot more than just 'passion'.

 

[mrpwnd]

Kearney is ready for the big time, he has been an assistant down there for a long time, he has served his apprenticeship now it is time for a big gig.

He is ready for it and i would pick him for us, he is a good fit.

So what if he's ready for it? For some people, perhaps I may be going out on a stretch when I say this, but DA is still a better coach in my eyes. If we managed to secure a contract from some decent coaches with a record similar/on par/better than DAs, then fair enough. Instead, we're apparently taking on a stupid gamble in Kearney, exactly where is the logic in it? Or am I meant to throw away logic due to the nature of contemporary Parra?
I can't help but think that our club has simply looked to the next coach that's off contract, regardless of the coach in question.

 

[Suitman]

And that has been a 4 year project.

I'm not talking about how long he's had, just the "no experience" argument.

Suity