Kearney

[bartman]

:lol: Aw, lighten up Suity....

That quote about reading posts properly was so good, I might put it in my sig ;-).

 

[Pooftamus Maximus]

I don't care how many times u watch seinfeld its always funny

Tippy toes tippy toes

 

[The EELiminator]

elaine dancing was another classic

 

[Parra Pride]

True. Bad example.
Maybe I should have said Gilligan's Island or the Brady Bunch.
They were funny once but are so f**king lame in hindsight.

Suity

The Simpsons is the greatest example you could possibly use.

#ItWasGoodForFiveMinutes

 

[Eelementary]

I'm defending him. Not singing his praises.
I don't think we should piss him off yet. I'm on record that if things haven't improved by this time next year, we should be looking elsewhere.
How is that singing his praises?
I also believe in what he is trying to do at the club. I think it's important for long term success that we try and follow through his plans. I'm f**king ropable at 8/35. I hate watching us lose as often as we have.
Singing Kearney's praises?
Some of you dumb merkins should read people's posts properly ffs.

Suity

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Piss him off ASAP.

 

[Eelementary]

Why would I refute it? Clearly you are smarter than all of us, as you point out below!



Brian Smith said the same thing about 2001 but that probably doesn't suit your argument! It will continue to be trotted out by all and sundry whenever they want to nail him to a cross!

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that Brian Smith took the side to the Finals for several seasons before making the 2001 Grand Final...In fact, I am fairly certain that we went deep into the 2000 Finals Series, before being beaten by the eventual Premiers...So I am not entirely sure that their records in this respect are comparable...

I don't dislike Anderson - I liked him a great deal and appreciated his efforts for this club. But he's gone now, and looking back at his tenure with the club, it featured great moments (such as making the Grand Final from eighth in 2009) littered amongst some awful football (2010, for instance). That, and he made some very puzzling recruitment and retention decisions (which, to be fair, was probably influenced by others, and at the very least, he should have been given the chance to showcase what he could do with the side he was trying to build).

Kearney's win-loss record is deplorable - you will get no argument from me there. But his win-loss record, in my opinion, is not indicative of what his overall goal is. I'd like to use the Tigers as an example: they won the 2005 Premiership, and it was awesome for them. Since then, though, they have achieved next to nothing.

Now, I want us to become more like a Manly or Melbourne - always in the fight and with a decent chance to snag a title. And I think this is where our perspectives mostly differ - a lot of Eels fans [fairly] want us to win games now and soon and see the long-term as something that should be achievable whilst achieving said wins, and a lot of Eels fans (such as myself) are tolerating short-term pain to see this great club become the powerhouse it deserves to be in the future. Many might disagree, but I think the long-term objective should be to emulate Manly and Melbourne, and not someone like the Tigers.

Lastly, I realise I probably flew off the handle previously a bit, and I apologise. You're all good, passionate fans who just want the best for this club and I sincerely apologise for my rants. If anyone was offended by my tirades, it was not my intention at all.

Long live the mighty Eels!

 

[yy_cheng]

you can have goals and plans but you might not have the skills to excecute tasks to reach your goals

 

[Eelementary]

you can have goals and plans but you might not have the skills to excecute tasks to reach your goals

True - but I am undecided on that.

 

[Eels Dude]

you can have goals and plans but you might not have the skills to excecute tasks to reach your goals

Seconded. Todd Carney missed a couple of makeable goals in SOO the other night. I don't think anyone doubted his intention to make them.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Kearney's win-loss record is deplorable - you will get no argument from me there. But his win-loss record, in my opinion, is not indicative of what his overall goal is. I'd like to use the Tigers as an example: they won the 2005 Premiership, and it was awesome for them. Since then, though, they have achieved next to nothing.

Now, I want us to become more like a Manly or Melbourne - always in the fight and with a decent chance to snag a title. And I think this is where our perspectives mostly differ - a lot of Eels fans [fairly] want us to win games now and soon and see the long-term as something that should be achievable whilst achieving said wins, and a lot of Eels fans (such as myself) are tolerating short-term pain to see this great club become the powerhouse it deserves to be in the future. Many might disagree, but I think the long-term objective should be to emulate Manly and Melbourne, and not someone like the Tigers.

So the question that needs to be asked, is why can't we have both?

You look at this side, that is currently running about and on paper, you can't tell me that it deserves to be last. Actually with last years side, you can't tell me it deserved to run 14th when it could play such great football. The problem last year is that at the 65th minute we shut up shop. This year we have played like we are not interested for entire halves at a time.

If we are improving, if things are getting better, then we need to see that on the pitch. I think the fans would be less critical if we were competitive. Last year for example, most were saying we were competitive and Kearney was building the team he wanted. We haven't lost a great deal, have recruited well and even with injuries we shouldn't be last on the ladder and putting in performances, like we did against the Knights, and the Bulldogs.

I think a majority of fans want the long term success, to be a Manchester of the league, and that does take time, but over that time you show improvement.

We are at round 15, we need to win 83% of our games to have a mathematical chance of making the semis, if we want to improve on last year, we need to win 42% of our upcoming games. We are 3 wins out of 15th place, so lets not sugar coat it. So far this year is not an improvement. So they only way this could be good is if it is a knock down rebuild approach. If it is, then surely those saying that last year was the worst team list in history, and that the signings would make an improvement are wrong and this years list is the worst we will ever have?

 

[spartan2153]

I may be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that Brian Smith took the side to the Finals for several seasons before making the 2001 Grand Final...In fact, I am fairly certain that we went deep into the 2000 Finals Series, before being beaten by the eventual Premiers...So I am not entirely sure that their records in this respect are comparable...

I don't dislike Anderson - I liked him a great deal and appreciated his efforts for this club. But he's gone now, and looking back at his tenure with the club, it featured great moments (such as making the Grand Final from eighth in 2009) littered amongst some awful football (2010, for instance). That, and he made some very puzzling recruitment and retention decisions (which, to be fair, was probably influenced by others, and at the very least, he should have been given the chance to showcase what he could do with the side he was trying to build).

Kearney's win-loss record is deplorable - you will get no argument from me there. But his win-loss record, in my opinion, is not indicative of what his overall goal is. I'd like to use the Tigers as an example: they won the 2005 Premiership, and it was awesome for them. Since then, though, they have achieved next to nothing.

Now, I want us to become more like a Manly or Melbourne - always in the fight and with a decent chance to snag a title. And I think this is where our perspectives mostly differ - a lot of Eels fans [fairly] want us to win games now and soon and see the long-term as something that should be achievable whilst achieving said wins, and a lot of Eels fans (such as myself) are tolerating short-term pain to see this great club become the powerhouse it deserves to be in the future. Many might disagree, but I think the long-term objective should be to emulate Manly and Melbourne, and not someone like the Tigers.

Lastly, I realise I probably flew off the handle previously a bit, and I apologise. You're all good, passionate fans who just want the best for this club and I sincerely apologise for my rants. If anyone was offended by my tirades, it was not my intention at all.

Long live the mighty Eels!

brian smith built the teams towards that grand final from the day he got here.

We made the grand final qualifier every year up till that grand final. HE rebuilt & got results at the same time

 

[spiderdan]

...In fact, I am fairly certain that we went deep into the 2000 Finals Series, before being beaten by the eventual Premiers...So I am not entirely sure that their records in this respect are comparable...

in 2000 we played like dog shit for most of the year before a run of a very high winning record similar to late 2009 to limp into the finals before a couple of big wins (from memory it was lyon's debut maybe vs warriors over there that we won 11-10 somehow even though they got two tries to our one?).

 

[spartan2153]

in 2000 we played like dog shit for most of the year before a run of a very high winning record similar to late 2009 to limp into the finals before a couple of big wins (from memory it was lyon's debut maybe vs warriors over there that we won 11-10 somehow even though they got two tries to our one?).

Thats crap cause we lost majority of games by 4 points or less with a team of rookies & dynmock. We clicked the game against the raiders when lyon made his debut i think.

 

[Eels Dude]

in 2000 we played like dog shit for most of the year before a run of a very high winning record similar to late 2009 to limp into the finals before a couple of big wins (from memory it was lyon's debut maybe vs warriors over there that we won 11-10 somehow even though they got two tries to our one?).

I think you're confusing 2000 with another year. We were up and down that year but so were most teams. We finished 7th but only finished 3 competition points behind 2nd. It was a funny season 2000.

By the way, great post above MITS

 

[lingard]

I'm defending him. Not singing his praises.
I don't think we should piss him off yet. I'm on record that if things haven't improved by this time next year, we should be looking elsewhere.
How is that singing his praises?
I also believe in what he is trying to do at the club. I think it's important for long term success that we try and follow through his plans. I'm f**king ropable at 8/35. I hate watching us lose as often as we have.
Singing Kearney's praises?
Some of you dumb merkins should read people's posts properly ffs.

Suity

Can you please tell us:

1. What exactly is Kearney trying to do at the club?
2. How do you know this? (ie: what evidence do you have?)

 

[whall15]

Can you please tell us:

1. What exactly is Kearney trying to do at the club?
2. How do you know this? (ie: what evidence do you have?)

Structure
Five Year Plan
Pyramid

 

[Eels Dude]

Can you please tell us:

1. What exactly is Kearney trying to do at the club?
2. How do you know this? (ie: what evidence do you have?)

I think Lingard, most of our concerns aren't about what Kearney is 'trying' to do. It's just the lack of execution on what he's 'trying' to do. Anyone can have a plan, but no point in having a plan if you can't get the basics right to put that plan into fruition.

 

[Gronk]

Souths and Parra had equal talent on paper tonight.

Souths were bettter drilled and wrestled us out of the game.

They were clearly a better coached side.

Can"t wait to hear the Amigos post their excuses tonight.

 

[Eels Dude]

I was willing to give some credit to Kearney tonight if we won as he would have accomplished a remarkable achievement in his coaching history, that being winning back to back games. Craig Coleman achieved this with Souths in 2002 with a side put to together at the last minute from other club's reserve graders and rejects. It looks like we'll have to wait at least another two weeks to SK to match this record

#CmonYouCanDoIt