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bartman

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To get the club into a position to be successful.
As said, most decent coaches need one off-season to get a club in a position to be successful. Not the first four years of some five year plan....

It matters because it poses the question - who is shit, Bennett or the Knights?
It's been answered before in other threads. You've asked me before, and I've replied to you. If you had something worthwhile to say on that issue you would have said it then.... Bennett and the Knights are irrelevant to the topic and answer you received to your question in this thread, the answer being:

The point is, sacking (this) coach after two years won't imo stop us from attracting/hiring a decent coach willing to live and die on his performance and results throughout his 5 year plan....

Agree/disagree Pou?
 

Poupou Escobar

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It's been answered before in other threads. You've asked me before, and I've replied to you. If you had something worthwhile to say on that issue you would have said it then.... Bennett and the Knights are irrelevant to the topic and answer you received to your question in this thread, the answer being:[

The point is, sacking (this) coach after two years won't imo stop us from attracting/hiring a decent coach willing to live and die on his performance and results throughout his 5 year plan....

Agree/disagree Pou?

I disagree.

Sacking Kearney before his contract is up will ensure any established coach with a reputation to lose will give our club a wide berth.

The Bennett/Knights issue shows how little control a coach has over on-field results, especially when there has been a number of recent roster changes.

Just like us, the Knights' new players are struggling to gel, but unlike us they have a lot more solid first graders in their squad.
 

Noise

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I don't know if you've been watching, but Wenty are going very well. As they say, it all starts with a strong reserve grade.

Unfortunately we have two of them.

Aren't they coming 7th out of 13 teams with 6 wins and 6 losses? That is middle of the table, so i would say they are going average, not very well. Unless of course you are comparing their results to kearneys results, then yes they are going very very well
 

lingard

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I think the issue for the Board is that if they sack Kearney it sends a negative message to the playing group and to any future coaches. To the playing group it says that if you don't like the coach and don't perform we'll sack him. Notwithstanding that, it means the players don't know how to prepare and develop to fit a plan because the coach might change from season to season. To future coaches it says you won't have job security. This is the Kearney conundrum. He has to go, but getting rid off him might make it harder for us to attract and retain coaches and players.


No it doesn`t. It just means that if you come third last in your first year, and last in your second year - with no evidence to suggest that things will get better - you`ll probably get the arse. Fair enough, I reckon.
 

Parra

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Sacking Kearney before his contract is up will ensure any established coach with a reputation to lose will give our club a wide berth


Bullshit. And he wouldn't be sacked. He'd be terminated in line with the terms in his contract and if the current board performance is anything to go by he'll get paid out in full or some other nonsense.

Sport history is full of sacked coaches and there is never a lack of candidates or applicants to fill the void.
 

lingard

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This is the part of our club's structure that irks me. Ideally the club should be strong through its roots in junior reps all the way up, and with the junior base we have it shouldn't be that hard to do at those base levels. But it doesn't seem like anything is filtering up to our u20s and senior teams, and suggest that whatever plans are being implemented aren't working or aren't expected to work for a fair while, which if that's the case, is rubbish.

I don't mind missing the finals or having a crap season every 2-3 years but we've been crap for a bit and seem to be going backwards without anything coming through to lift the team.

I wish I parra now at least resembled parra when Brian smith took over or collingwood when Mick malthouse started there.



Wouldn`t the salary cap make it difficult to keep a lot of your juniors? I get your point, though.
 

barney gumble

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The next two weeks are crucial. If we lose to our wooden spoon competitors, panthers and knights, then all debate will (should) end and Kearney must be sent packing.

Win both or even one, then it's nothing more than a stay of execution I suppose.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Aren't they coming 7th out of 13 teams with 6 wins and 6 losses? That is middle of the table, so i would say they are going average, not very well. Unless of course you are comparing their results to kearneys results, then yes they are going very very well

I'm talking about recent form mate. You merkins focus too much on the past.

A month is a long time in football.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The next two weeks are crucial. If we lose to our wooden spoon competitors, panthers and knights, then all debate will (should) end and Kearney must be sent packing.

Win both or even one, then it's nothing more than a stay of execution I suppose.

Mate I'm pretty sure we'll get the spoon.

Our go-forward was our best feature last year and the whole squad is built around that. This year it's a f**king disgrace.

We will be very lucky to avoid the spoon, just like we were last year.
 

Noise

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I'm talking about recent form mate. You merkins focus too much on the past.

A month is a long time in football.


Recent form??? What are you on about? Wenty have lost their last 2 against mounties and newtown and lost 3 of their last 4 if you are talking about the last month. The other loss was against the vulcans. The only game they won was against manly .

Do you just make shit up or what?
 

Noise

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Mate I'm pretty sure we'll get the spoon.

Our go-forward was our best feature last year and the whole squad is built around that. This year it's a f**king disgrace.

We will be very lucky to avoid the spoon, just like we were last year.

A few weeks ago you were confident that we would improve on last years results. So you finally agree we are going backwards under kearney.
 
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IFR33K

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Recent form??? What are you on about? Wenty have lost their last 2 against mounties and newtown and lost 3 of their last 4 if you are talking about the last month. The other loss was against the vulcans. The only game they won was against manly .

Do you just make shit up or what?

:crazy::crazy:
 

Poupou Escobar

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A few weeks ago you were confident that we would improve on last years results. So you finally agree we are going backwards under kearney.

I don't think Kearney's got anything to do with it.

Hindy and Fui were re-signed for a year too long, and Poore's injury has gotten the better of him.
 

IFR33K

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Mate I'm pretty sure we'll get the spoon.

Our go-forward was our best feature last year and the whole squad is built around that. This year it's a f**king disgrace.

We will be very lucky to avoid the spoon, just like we were last year.

Just last week you told me we are on the improve, and were going to start winning.

Assuming we get the spoon with our roster, do u consider that good enough.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Recent form??? What are you on about? Wenty have lost their last 2 against mounties and newtown and lost 3 of their last 4 if you are talking about the last month. The other loss was against the vulcans. The only game they won was against manly .

What are you on about? They won today you f**king jibberer.
 

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