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Kidley v Morris

What would you do?


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Burwood

Bench
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Gene Krupa said:
That's for fantasy league and I don't think they are actually what they are being paid.

Yes, that's why I used the word "worth" and not "paid" :roll:

A lot of people have said that he is overpaid at the Knights, but I'm just curious as to what sort of value people would put on him. I personally would be willing to give him a $200K contract, but not much more than that.
 

Roy

Juniors
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reject both of them, we dont need them we have walsh an mullen comming up we dont need them, the only parra player i would want is dean widders.
 

Whats Doing

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Morris is a hooker that is playing 5/8. There is no need to sign him as it will not improve the team and will take up a large slice of the salary cap which should be used on areas we need to improve on.

I would keep Kidley but he must move to another position be it centre or lock.
 

TooheysNew

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Burwood said:
Yes, that's why I used the word "worth" and not "paid" :roll:

A lot of people have said that he is overpaid at the Knights, but I'm just curious as to what sort of value people would put on him. I personally would be willing to give him a $200K contract, but not much more than that.

That's not even what they think he's worth. It's a game. Fiction.

They are made up dollar values and have no relevance at all.
 

The Devil

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I didn't want to start a new thread just for this.. so i'm gonna post it here..

In the Daily Telegraph Main Game, there's the list of leading players with try assists.

Johns leads the field with 12, which is no surprise with Lockyer 2nd, Thurston 3rd.

What IS a surprise is that Barrett and Kidley are both tied for 4th with 9 try assists to thier name.

The Knights are the only team with 2 play-makers in the top 9 for try asissts thus far in the season.. what does everyone make of this? The only thing that strikes me off the top of my head is the lack of strike players in the backline that can create something out of nothing, though Midley is doing alright.
 

Big Tim

First Grade
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jamesgould said:
Carmont has missed 5 games out of 61 since making first grade ... I think one was spent in premier league though. The longest streak any Knight is on is 32 in a row for Craig Smith ... see these Kiwi's have all the endurance! :)

Simpson made his 100th appearance for the Knights from only his 101st possible selection (meaning he missed one game when he should have been available and there where no rep commitments) but then he went through a bit of an injury crisis. He will come close to beating Joey's appearance mark (whatever it is) in years to come.
 

Burwood

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The Devil said:
I didn't want to start a new thread just for this.. so i'm gonna post it here..

In the Daily Telegraph Main Game, there's the list of leading players with try assists.

Johns leads the field with 12, which is no surprise with Lockyer 2nd, Thurston 3rd.

What IS a surprise is that Barrett and Kidley are both tied for 4th with 9 try assists to thier name.

The Knights are the only team with 2 play-makers in the top 9 for try asissts thus far in the season.. what does everyone make of this? The only thing that strikes me off the top of my head is the lack of strike players in the backline that can create something out of nothing, though Midley is doing alright.
With the amount of tries that we have scored this year we are bound to have our two playmakers figure highly in try assists.

But it also shows that Kidley is doing his job well when Johns is in the team. The Knights have scored a lot of tries this year by running great lines and putting players through holes close to the try line. We no longer rely solely on Johns to set up these tries as Kidley has developed a good passing game.

Another interesting stat is that Kidley is also up there in offloads this season- he set up some great tries in the Brisbane match by offloading when he either got to the line, or just as he broke through.
 

Johns Magic

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Kidley is a quality rugby league player, I'd love to keep him, but only for what he's worth and not as a playmaker.
 

antonius

Coach
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Kidleys stats are good because fortunately Johns has played a lot of games, and as someone said we have had some high scoring games. It would be interesting to see the stats for him in the games Johns didn't play. Not fair say some because the others would reflect the same decline. The dif being in those games Kidley has either been the nominated playmaker, or has assumed that position. Which as far as i'm concerned brings Kidley back to the pack, I tend to agree with JM he is a very good player, and it'd be good to keep him in some other role. I still think though that he will want more money than we will offer him, and depending on what happens at the Eels with all the player movements there, he may well get the bigger money there along with Hagan who must be a big supporter of him.
 

benno

Juniors
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Kids has too much talent to lose...he still could prove us wrong in the halves combo..but other then that..he has too much talent across the park to lose him..he's envaulable to us
 

The Devil

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Johns Magic said:
btw I refuse to vote because I don't know where Smith would intend to play him.

I'm pretty sure you'd want him as either a centre or impact utility, so if Smithw ere to use him in that position you'd be for it.

Say Smith player him as 5/8 still. What would be your thoughts?

And what would your thoughts be on Kidley at 5/8 but on a reduced contract?
 

Johns Magic

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The Devil said:
I'm pretty sure you'd want him as either a centre or impact utility, so if Smithw ere to use him in that position you'd be for it.

Say Smith player him as 5/8 still. What would be your thoughts?

And what would your thoughts be on Kidley at 5/8 but on a reduced contract?

I'd want him re-signed as a centre, utility or even a lock.

Wouldn't mind him as a 5/8 whilst Johns is still around.

But if he was to play in the halves once Johns retires I wouldn't sign him for $5.
 

antonius

Coach
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The Devil said:
I'm pretty sure you'd want him as either a centre or impact utility, so if Smithw ere to use him in that position you'd be for it.

Say Smith player him as 5/8 still. What would be your thoughts?

And what would your thoughts be on Kidley at 5/8 but on a reduced contract?
There is no way that will happen, He's on $250,000 a year now and is after a big increase!!!! If we sign him for more I will be really p!ssed off. Surely the club isn't going to do it? I'd be waving him goodbye if the reports are true and he is sticking to that line. He has an inflated opinion of his value IMO.
 

antonius

Coach
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Truth be known I really can't see any club offering money like that. He may well get a rude shock if he decides to wait until the deadline and put himself on the market. I hope the Knights hold off and let him test the market.
 

Serc

First Grade
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I hope they hold off too...though I've heard enough from that article to change my vote :p NO KIDLEY! (and still no Morris please)
 

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