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Knight Russell Packer jailed for two years

9701

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Obviously they had gotten him a place in Windale where this sort of behaviour is socially acceptable

If only he'd moved in a week earlier....


Russell Packer acted without thinking and must now pay the price.
The fact that he can play a sport should not exempt him from having to go to prison. Newcastle should withdraw their support until such time that he has served his time. They can re-assess their position in two years time pending the NRL registering his contract and he being fit enough / good enough to carry on playing.

I hope he and many other young men, take this opportunity to work out that belting the shit out of people is never acceptable.

f**k you I grew up in Windale and I turned out just fine.
 

shiznit

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It puzzles me how you can be so sure that there is no chance it could happen again. I'm sure people also thought Robert Lui wouldn't be stupid enough to get blind on another mad Monday but we all know how that turned out.

I just don't understand why he should get bail after being sentenced. He'll end up with a prison term anyway, so he can stay in prison while awaiting to appeal the severity of the sentence.
They need to be looking at the likelihood of him reoffending.

What the magistrate is saying here by not bailing him is that there's a high risk that Packer will reoffend while on bail...

Luis is a different case all together... His was domestic violence... You could understand denying bail if there's a danger to a partner/spouse.

From the reaction of his lawyers and the prosecution I think there's a real chance he gets his sentence reduced to a non custodial sentence.
 

ek999

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I don't have a problem with the sentence he has been given and I haven't heard of any other case with such a sustained attack on his victim. If he stopped after he knocked him to the ground he probably would have got a good behaviour bond or a suspended sentence. Instead he continued to punch him whilst he was on the ground and then stomped on his head. He could easily have been up on an attempted murder charge IMO

Is anyone able to provide another example where someone has made a similar attack and got a lighter sentence?
 

Canard

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From the reaction of his lawyers and the prosecution I think there's a real chance he gets his sentence reduced to a non custodial sentence.

From past history, I reckon your prophecy would be pretty correct.

That doesn't make the magistrate's original call incorrect however, well not in my opinion.

That someone who committed such a crime can get of it so lightly (eventually) is what is wrong about the situation.
 

Timbo

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I'm astonished anyone doesn't think he deserves prison for this.

He could have killed the guy for gods sake, I don't care if people have gotten off lightly in the past for this sort of thing - they shouldn't have.

How would you feel if you were the guy who got stomped on, or if you were a member of his family, to discover the guy who did it got off with community service or a good behaviour bond?

This is the legal system actually doing its job for a change.
 

El Diablo

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I don't have a problem with the sentence he has been given and I haven't heard of any other case with such a sustained attack on his victim. If he stopped after he knocked him to the ground he probably would have got a good behaviour bond or a suspended sentence. Instead he continued to punch him whilst he was on the ground and then stomped on his head. He could easily have been up on an attempted murder charge IMO

Is anyone able to provide another example where someone has made a similar attack and got a lighter sentence?

the bloke who only got 4 years for killing someone

be interesting to see what happens with a similar incident in WA [http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...orthbridge-fight/story-fnii5tho-1226786150811
 
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magpie4ever

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I don't know the full details of Loveridge's sentence for the Thomas Kelly matter; but wasn't it 6 years (??) with a minimum of 4 years without parole.

I still question the DPP's stance to reduced the charge to manslaughter with a guilty plea. The general public's belief was; it was murder.
 

Pierced Soul

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the loveridge case is a great example of pissweak sentencing. he was already out on bail (see shiznit people do re-offend whilst being on bail) and attacked several others. this case brought up the (unfortunately short lived )debate over mandatory minimum sentencing for certain crimes.

pretty sure loveridge was also a single punch, not repeated punchings followed by a stomping which is also a difference between the cases. if it were up to me loveridge would have gotten 15-20 years and packer gotten at least 4
 

Pierced Soul

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I don't know the full details of Loveridge's sentence for the Thomas Kelly matter; but wasn't it 6 years (??) with a minimum of 4 years without parole.

I still question the DPP's stance to reduced the charge to manslaughter with a guilty plea. The general public's belief was; it was murder.

i think loveridge's combines the other assaults he did on that night, not just the one which killed kelly. i think he got 4 years for kellys death. the dpp is only interested in statistics. if they can "close" the case even if its the wrong call they'll take it to chalk up a "win"
 

El Diablo

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i think loveridge's combines the other assaults he did on that night, not just the one which killed kelly. i think he got 4 years for kellys death. the dpp is only interested in statistics. if they can "close" the case even if its the wrong call they'll take it to chalk up a "win"

http://www.news.com.au/national/tho...-four-years-jail/story-fncynjr2-1226755733724

Loveridge was also sentenced for four assaults he committed on the same night that he punched Mr Kelly.

Together with the manslaughter charge, he will spend seven years and two months behind bars with a non-parole period of five years and two months.
 

magpie4ever

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i think loveridge's combines the other assaults he did on that night, not just the one which killed kelly. i think he got 4 years for kellys death. the dpp is only interested in statistics. if they can "close" the case even if its the wrong call they'll take it to chalk up a "win"

Agreed, that and reduce their costs from a full murder trial with a non-guilty plea. Piss weak.

One punch or a continual bashing - murder is bloody murder.
 

Pierced Soul

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Agreed, that and reduce their costs from a full murder trial with a non-guilty plea. Piss weak.

One punch or a continual bashing - murder is bloody murder.

it's a sad state of affairs when this level of bureaucracy takes over. i know someone who's kid was killed through a stabbing. the dpp told them all through the murder charge they would refuse to accept a manslaughter plea, after all the evidence was done, they allowed and accepted a manslaughter plea. family was destroyed by this
 

magpie4ever

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it's a sad state of affairs when this level of bureaucracy takes over. i know someone who's kid was killed through a stabbing. the dpp told them all through the murder charge they would refuse to accept a manslaughter plea, after all the evidence was done, they allowed and accepted a manslaughter plea. family was destroyed by this

Mate, my heart goes out to the family.
 

Joely01

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I'm astonished anyone doesn't think he deserves prison for this.

He could have killed the guy for gods sake, I don't care if people have gotten off lightly in the past for this sort of thing - they shouldn't have.

How would you feel if you were the guy who got stomped on, or if you were a member of his family, to discover the guy who did it got off with community service or a good behaviour bond?

This is the legal system actually doing its job for a change.

100% agree
 

Joely01

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it's their fault Packer is a lunatic I reckon

I don't think he was a knights player when this happened, actually I think I hear yesterday his contract hasn't been registered. So technically has he actually been a knights player?
 

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