Knight Russell Packer jailed for two years

[Timbo]

What is really disturbing is the amount of support other players are are giving Packer on Twitter due to his 'harsh' treatment.

Getting really over the number of entitled douchebags that seem to be everywhere in league these days.

 

[eozsmiles]

Agreed, that and reduce their costs from a full murder trial with a non-guilty plea. Piss weak.

One punch or a continual bashing - murder is bloody murder.

.....and clear the court system. If there was no downgrading of charges or discounts for guilty pleas, then nobody would ever plead guilty. The result would be a clogging of the system (even worse than it currently is) and a whole bunch of crims slipping through the cracks. The result would be plenty of charges being tossed out before seeing a courtroom. Only the strongest cases would proceed, and they would take years given that the crims will plead not guilty and appeal until the cows come home.

Murder is murder but you need to prove intent I think to make it stick. I reckon that proving intent to kill in a short term assault with no weapon would be pretty hard.

 

[9701]

I don't think he was a knights player when this happened, actually I think I hear yesterday his contract hasn't been registered. So technically has he actually been a knights player?

Nope never laced a boot on for the Knights.

 

[magpie4ever]

.....and clear the court system. If there was no downgrading of charges or discounts for guilty pleas, then nobody would ever plead guilty. The result would be a clogging of the system (even worse than it currently is) and a whole bunch of crims slipping through the cracks. The result would be plenty of charges being tossed out before seeing a courtroom. Only the strongest cases would proceed, and they would take years given that the crims will plead not guilty and appeal until the cows come home.

Murder is murder but you need to prove intent I think to make it stick. I reckon that proving intent to kill in a short term assault with no weapon would be pretty hard.

I understand your comments, but a "dog shot" on a passerby, to me, shows intent to harmful. Maybe, the sentences applied to manslaugther need to be more harsh. 4 years for a "dog shot" that kill someone, to me (and I would say plenty of others) is not acceptable.

 

[El Diablo]

I understand your comments, but a "dog shot" on a passerby, to me, shows intent to harmful. Maybe, the sentences applied to manslaugther need to be more harsh. 4 years for a "dog shot" that kill someone, to me (and I would say plenty of others) is not acceptable.

especially when you have priors and are out on parole

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

What is really disturbing is the amount of support other players are are giving Packer on Twitter due to his 'harsh' treatment.

Getting really over the number of entitled douchebags that seem to be everywhere in league these days.

Makes you kind of embarrassed that we all cheer and get behind such people.

I am sure a lot of us have all had the arguments over a coffee at work with people claiming league players are thugs and meatheads....

Don't know if I could disagree anymore with the amount of twits on twitter!

 

[Canard]

Makes you kind of embarrassed that we all cheer and get behind such people.

I am sure a lot of us have all had the arguments over a coffee at work with people claiming league players are thugs and meatheads....

Don't know if I could disagree anymore with the amount of twits on twitter!

But remember in all walks of life there is always a small portion of dickheads.

Of the hundreds of NRL players only a handful of clowns have embarrassed themselves.

 

[mozza91]

Christ I hate the 'he's got a wife and kids' excuse. Like that should get him some sort of lieniency with the sentence. If he's such a family man what's he doing getting kicked out of pubs early in the morning 2 hours away from he's supposed to be living? Let alone beating the shit out of some bloke and kicking him in the head.

 

[El Diablo]

Makes you kind of embarrassed that we all cheer and get behind such people.

I am sure a lot of us have all had the arguments over a coffee at work with people claiming league players are thugs and meatheads....

Don't know if I could disagree anymore with the amount of twits on twitter!

why do they have to agree with the sentence and if they don't why does it make them a thug and meathead?

is his lawyer a thug and meathead?

 

[Lambretta]

I am sure a lot of us have all had the arguments over a coffee at work with people claiming league players are thugs and meatheads....

Personally, I've never had a problem with thugs or meatheads and have no issues cheering them playing for my team. After all, you have to be slightly less than brilliant between the ears to want to run at someone at full speed knowing they're going to smash you onto your arse.

If people tell me League players are meatheads, I ask them what their point is? I'm not asking these guys to make up my trivia team or give me life advice. I'm asking them to play a very, very, very physical sport. Meatheads definitely need apply.

What I don't need are people that are so thick that they think that stomping on someone's head after they've knocked them to the ground is anything other than worthy of loss of their freedom their careers and anything else they cherish. The gulf between being a meathead and being a reprehensible and pitiful excuse for a human being is vast.

 

[Lambretta]

Christ I hate the 'he's got a wife and kids' excuse. Like that should get him some sort of lieniency with the sentence. If he's such a family man what's he doing getting kicked out of pubs early in the morning 2 hours away from he's supposed to be living? Let alone beating the shit out of some bloke and kicking him in the head.

Very true - but the reason a "wife and child excuse" are dragged out is the people that rely on that person for their income would suffer if the accused goes to prison.

It's not sympathy for him they're seeking it's sympathy for those that rely on him.

But as El Diablo pointed out, he's not married, so where did the wife and kid thing come from?

 

[El Diablo]

there is no wife ffs

no idea if he has a child

 

[Mortar]

Murder is murder but you need to prove intent I think to make it stick. I reckon that proving intent to kill in a short term assault with no weapon would be pretty hard.

The act of stomping on someone's head after they have been knocked down after a gallen-shot should show enough intention for an murder/attempted murder charge, the same as killing someone whilst drunk driving should attract a murder charge.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

They need to be looking at the likelihood of him reoffending.

What the magistrate is saying here by not bailing him is that there's a high risk that Packer will reoffend while on bail...

Luis is a different case all together... His was domestic violence... You could understand denying bail if there's a danger to a partner/spouse.

From the reaction of his lawyers and the prosecution I think there's a real chance he gets his sentence reduced to a non custodial sentence.

Yup.

I'm astonished anyone doesn't think he deserves prison for this.

He could have killed the guy for gods sake, I don't care if people have gotten off lightly in the past for this sort of thing - they shouldn't have.

How would you feel if you were the guy who got stomped on, or if you were a member of his family, to discover the guy who did it got off with community service or a good behaviour bond?

This is the legal system actually doing its job for a change.

Yup.

i think loveridge's combines the other assaults he did on that night, not just the one which killed kelly. i think he got 4 years for kellys death. the dpp is only interested in statistics. if they can "close" the case even if its the wrong call they'll take it to chalk up a "win"

Pretty sure they were appealing the sentence but experts predicted that there was little chance of any change.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

The act of stomping on someone's head after they have been knocked down after a gallen-shot should show enough intention for an murder/attempted murder charge, the same as killing someone whilst drunk driving should attract a murder charge.

Wow you're pathetic.

 

[Lambretta]

there is no wife ffs

no idea if he has a child

El D, I was referring why the defense is used rather than stating that it was used in this instance.

I apologise if I didn't make that clear. I will re-edit previous post

 

[Mixmasterreece]

there is no wife ffs

no idea if he has a child

He has a long term partner and 2 children with her

 

[Mixmasterreece]

I see packer's victim is on facebook calling for a spot of prison rape.

 

[El Diablo]

what a douche

 

[Mixmasterreece]

what a douche

Should of just kept his head down and his name out of the spotlight