Knock-on Effect NSW Cup - Eels Team

[Forty20]

Strong set from Newcastle as they rumble down field and pin Hunt 4m out from his line from their kick.

Maliota has an enthusiastic charge that opens up the field somewhat for Pewhairangi who makes a good run.

Crazy stuff on the last tackle. Kelly beats a shooting defender and runs the ball to the right-edge. Howard and Pauli trade possession before Pauli's kick for a deflection that is ruled to be not played. Howard cleans the ball up and eventually it comes to Alvaro who rolls in a neat kick but Newcastle are able to get back and dive on the pill.

 

[Forty20]

8min left on the clock as Wenty's hopes begin to evaporate.

Pauli has a good run up the middle as Wenty work towards half way. They send up an optimistic bomb on the last tackle as Hunt gives chase. Newcastle allow it to bounce but Mantaletto gets a favourable turn and grabs the ball.

Wenty then concede a penalty for holding down in the tackle.

Newcastle on the attack.

 

[Forty20]

An error from Newcastle gives Wenty possession.

No attacking spark early in the set as they settle for rucking it out. Eventually they look for a right-edge shift but Newcastle read Hunt's sweep perfectly and pull him down.

The Magpies bring the ball back towards to the posts and end up forcing a forward pass...

 

[Forty20]

Hahaha there were at least two forward passes in that movement...

Newcastle run the ball on the last as they throw two looooong balls down Wenty's left-edge. Massive question marks over them for mine but no official is bothered by them.

Mantaletto ends up kicking the ball ahead and Newcastle pick up a line drop out for their efforts.

 

[Forty20]

Newcastle lose the ball backwards on a right-edge play and Faraimo races up the tackle the clean up crew.

An opportunistic offload by Likiliki to Dobson who then links up with Minto leads to another repeat set as Minto rolls the ball in goals.

 

[Forty20]

Consolation stuff for Wenty as Jake Butler-Fleming pushes up amidst the sweeping Newcastle play down Wenty's right-edge.

Butler-Fleming intercepts the ball and races down field to score Wenty's second try and first of the second stanza.

The conversion is successful.

Wenty trail Newcastle 12-24

79min gone.

 

[Forty20]

An error from Pauli closes out the game and is a fair indictment on Wenty's game today. Hope you merkins had as much fun watching the game as I did .

Full Time

Newcastle dft. Wenty 24-12

Wenty will now play the winner of the Wests-Tigers/Wyong Roos game next week in what will be a sudden death fixture.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Cheers Forty, top stuff again.

Go Wenty.

 

[Y2Eel]

Pauli Pauli really needs to get more involved.

Wenty need a hooker next year lucky they will have 2 to choose from in Pritchard and De Gois.

 

[Y2Eel]

Whats out NSW cup team going to look like next season?

I can see a few big changes with alot of the Under 20s making the way up..

 

[Forty20]

Potential Wenty players:

Allgood, Mitch* (Assuming he doesn't find another club)
Alvaro, Daniel
Champion, Beau
De Gois, Isaac
Faraimo, Bureta
Folau, Lavaka
Goodall, Fabian
Hunt, Justin
Kamikamica, Tui
Kelly, Luke* (Assuming he stays on a second tier deal)
Lavaka, Halauafu
Li, Leva
Matterson, Ryan
McPherson, Shannon
Morgan, Ryan
Nelson, Cody
Pauli, Pauli
Pritchard, Kaysa
Terepo, Peni
Toutai, Vai

NSW Cup players whose futures we are uncertain of:

Lasalo, Taniela
Ma'afu, Lorenzo
Pewhairangi, Api
Ualesi, Joseph

2015 NYC Players that might play in the NSW Cup:

Aloiai, Josh
Davis, Nathan
Dockar-Clay, Zach

Plus there are plenty of players that are contracted to Wenty that could get a run. It is highly likely that I have missed some players but you can begin to piece together a team from the players above. Having said that there are some significant variables that we will have to wait to find the answers to like where will Ryan Matterson play, will ZDC be accelerated, will Luke Kelly stay etc.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Would u keep Ualesi for another year? Could be a late bloomer

 

[Forty20]

I would. He started the season in great form when he was playing on the right edge with Sandow, Morgan and Sio. Obviously they also contributed towards him looking better but I also though he was putting in strong individual showings as well.

His season started to get derailed by injury midway through the year and by the time he was back on the field Wenty had been gutted by injuries/promotions and was a shell of the team that lead the NSW Cup a while back.

No reason to think he will be a star but he is a tough, gritty worker that has moments of class as a link man or with an offload. It would be nice to keep him but at the same time I could understand if he was cut.

 

[Utey]

I'd keep him.

 

[Y2Eel]

We seriously need to get Wenty in better shape next season..

The whole NSW Cup needs its own cap so players are not lost to the game..

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We seriously need to get Wenty in better shape next season..

The whole NSW Cup needs its own cap so players are not lost to the game..

What are you on about? There currently is no cap. And clubs can sign as many players as they want outside the top 25. If players are let go (and not signed elsewhere) it's because they are unlikely to have a future in the game. We paid full time salaries to a bunch of guys we never intended to play in first grade this year. If they develop at the rate we want then we will keep them. If they're 'lost to the game' it's because they don't deserve an NRL career.

Just like you and me.

 

[Y2Eel]

I mean every year we have kids from the under 20s who are too old for the under 20 comp that are lost to the game.

Have a look at the last round Went team Maybe 4 guys would be first grade material..

1. Justin Hunt

2. Jake Butler-Fleming

3. KJ MacKenzie

4. Vai Toutai

5. Cecil MacKenzie

6. Api Pewhairaingi

7. Luke Kelly

8. Daniel Alvaro

9. Ben Jones

10. Isaac Maliota

11. Pauli Pauli

12. Lorenzo Ma’afu

13. Lionel O’Mally

Interchange:

14. Sam Gorman

15. Takai Moeakiola

16. Joseph Ualesi

17. Danny Howard

18. Nick Kassis


You cant say at 20 that they will never be ready for first grade.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You cant say at 20 that they will never be ready for first grade.

But plenty of NYC graduates stay in the game, even if they're not ready for first grade straight away.

We gave contracts to the following NYC graduates from last year:

Alvaro
Bugden
Cummins
Evans
Gorman
Tuitahi
Ualesi

None of them were going to be ready for the NRL this year but we still paid them a full time wage to train over the off season and then shelled out nearly $80k for some of them to hang around and play for Wenty.

But there comes a time when you decide a player probably won't make it, and you take a chance on a new NYC graduate the next year.

Daly Cherry-Evans didn't play first grade until the year he turned 22. That means Manly paid him a fulltime salary for a year just to train and run around for their QLD Cup feeder team. Who knows how long they would have persevered with him? If he wasn't ready by 2011 they might have retained him for another year or two. It's something every club has to decide with their development players. It's also something the players have to decide themselves. Sometimes the best thing is to realise you're shit and go and get a real job. Most of us have to make that realisation before high school is finished.

 

[Chipmunk]

I think they should restructure the NSW and Qld Cup competitions to be an Under 23's competition only, but NRL Top 25 players are all given an exemption to the Under 23 rule.

That way you could continue to play your Under 20's for up to 3 years before you decide they're not an NRL level player, as well as having the ability to drop players back to the lower level or bring them back after injuries.

The first they have to do is get teams to list their Top 25 players at all times.

 

[Y2Eel]

But plenty of NYC graduates stay in the game, even if they're not ready for first grade straight away.

We gave contracts to the following NYC graduates from last year:

Alvaro
Bugden
Cummins
Evans
Gorman
Tuitahi
Ualesi

None of them were going to be ready for the NRL this year but we still paid them a full time wage to train over the off season and then shelled out nearly $80k for some of them to hang around and play for Wenty.

But there comes a time when you decide a player probably won't make it, and you take a chance on a new NYC graduate the next year.

Daly Cherry-Evans didn't play first grade until the year he turned 22. That means Manly paid him a fulltime salary for a year just to train and run around for their QLD Cup feeder team. Who knows how long they would have persevered with him? If he wasn't ready by 2011 they might have retained him for another year or two. It's something every club has to decide with their development players. It's also something the players have to decide themselves. Sometimes the best thing is to realise you're shit and go and get a real job. Most of us have to make that realisation before high school is finished.

I understand all that but when your a billion dollar Comp You would think that the feeder comp for NRL would be at a higher standard.

Pay the Next group of players that are not in the NRL top 25 a bit more keep them in the game.

DCE was sent to the QLD cup what are they dong better than the NSW Cup?