Kyle Flanagan

[Crush]

What ?? He is two seasons away from playing regular NRL and is yet to play against men !

Get him in, this week, 80 mins, sink or swim.
Lol

 

[Bayside Dragon]

Kicks in general play is one of Kyle's worst skills. Not long enough and usually ill-directed.

And your alternative kicker is.....?

Mate, the long kickers in the game don't want to join us. Never have since Soward. I own a Corolla. My neighbours and every man and his dog can see that. Bemoaning the fact it is not a Ferrari is not going to put one in my garage.

How about we talk about the options in our top 30 - and not what we don't have? And if we don't have it, go out and get it. Let us all know how you get on with that.

You might grab a few flying pigs while you're at it.

 

[Bayside Dragon]

Get him in, this week, 80 mins, sink or swim.
Lol

Ha ha ha! Good one. Even better...wait a week and throw him to the Panthers! Is PTS covered by his health insurance?? 50 point loss on debut is what memories are made of. Particularly when there is really nothing on the line except pride.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Reed is 19 this year, I believe he's had 2 pre-seasons with the NRL squad.

For some perspective, these players made their NRL debut at 19:
Ezra Mam, Lachlan Galvin, Matt Burton, Tom Deardon, Jaxon Purdue, Isaiya Katoa, Mitch Moses, Nathan Cleary, Sam Walker, Cameron Munster, Jarome Hughes, Adam Douehi.

Not saying by any means that Kade is in the class of the above players, and yes, they may not have played a full season in their debut year, but they almost demanded to be selected full-time the year after.

So, what is the "criteria" for Kade to make his NRL debut?

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[Bayside Dragon]

Reed is 19 this year, I believe he's had 2 pre-seasons with the NRL squad.

For some perspective, these players made their NRL debut at 19:
Ezra Mam, Lachlan Galvin, Matt Burton, Tom Deardon, Jaxon Purdue, Isaiya Katoa, Mitch Moses, Nathan Cleary, Sam Walker, Cameron Munster, Jarome Hughes, Adam Douehi.

Not saying by any means that Kade is in the class of the above players, and yes, they may not have played a full season in their debut year, but they almost demanded to be selected full-time the year after.

So, what is the "criteria" for Kade to make his NRL debut?

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[Bayside Dragon]

Rather Kade stayed with his KOE mates and pushed for a title rather than thrown into 2 meaningless NRL games. The team we put on the field now will be very different to what will start next year. Too late be a saviour this year.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Rather Kade stayed with his KOE mates and pushed for a title rather than thrown into 2 meaningless NRL games. The team we put on the field now will be very different to what will start next year. Too late be a saviour this year.

100%

I'm not suggesting this year, and he'll play out the remaining games in JF. Next year he'll take Glover's place in Cup. Form and sustainability will determine if he gets a debut game in '26 (unless there are injuries, suspensions or even those who just not in form). He would also need to shake off the JF tackling style and work really hard on his defense (as will a lot of others also)

Atkinson is an unknown, he may well shine or he may not, that is the only worry, he has no form leading into joining us.

 

[Not Myself]

You’re not yourself either. You must be either Kyle Flanagan’s dad or his girlfriend if you think he should be playing NRL next week. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Welcome, Shane.

Ah I see your Baldrick-like cunning plan. Replace the two halves with reserve graders and miraculously between them they will make all the missed tackles that conceded the 40 points last week. Brilliant. You're defintely not yourself

 

[since77]

You’re not yourself either. You must be either Kyle Flanagan’s dad or his girlfriend if you think he should be playing NRL next week. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Welcome, Shane.

Replace Kyle. I don't care either way. Still doesn't do one single thing to fix the 40 points conceded. He's actually one of our better defenders, by the way. A better attacking half might have got us to the awesome scoreline of 40-6 with the possession, errors and field position we had. But hey, you keep aiming for that low hanging fruit even if it doesn't actually fix the real problem......

 

[slippery5]

I don't think it's just a KF problem. LKT is equally as poor.

Also, LKT CANNOT tackle with his left shoulder, which was the cause of a missed tackle, where he was steamrolled over to score a try by the Wabbits. He went in with his right shoulder, causing his body to be in front of the ball runner, which then creates your head to be looking away.
I wonder if things like this are EVER picked up by coaching staff??????
Fundamentally U9 effort!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Old Timer]

Replace Kyle. I don't care either way. Still doesn't do one single thing to fix the 40 points conceded. He's actually one of our better defenders, by the way. A better attacking half might have got us to the awesome scoreline of 40-6 with the possession, errors and field position we had. But hey, you keep aiming for that low hanging fruit even if it doesn't actually fix the real problem......

A better kicking game and more fluent attack will mean our forwards will be doing far less donkey work in getting the ball of our own goal line and have them doing more tackles in the opposition half.

Getting our forwards some easy yardage will keep them fresher longer and will go a long way to fixing many of our current issues.

 

[since77]

A better kicking game and more fluent attack will mean our forwards will be doing far less donkey work in getting the ball of our own goal line and have them doing more tackles in the opposition half.

Getting our forwards some easy yardage will keep them fresher longer and will go a long way to fixing many of our current issues.

So replace Kyle with whoever you think will kick "better". Ilias, Glover, whoever. The forwards will still plod, still make dumb unforced errors and the new saviour halfback will still be kicking from poor field position straight down the fullback's throat.
The first twenty minutes of the Souths game we were actually winning the yardage battle, or at least staying in the fight. Then the dumb mistakes started. Throw in a few dodgy ref calls and it all started to snowball. Not the halfback's fault at all.
I don't have any allegiance to Kyle, replace him with whoever you want. I don't care if he ever plays first grade again for us. Just don't tell me we all of a sudden go from losing 40-0 to winning the game or even being vaguely competitive against Souths just because we swap out Kyle for someone highly unlikely to be capable of making a 40 point difference.
To be honest I would have thought the game against the Warriors was actually the game to be critical of Kyle. A better 7 in that game and I think we win the game with all that possesion early in the second half. Just one more try and we win that game. We had more than enough posession to convert that field position into points.
I think the more reactionary section of the fanbase just want a Kyle shaped scapegoat when there are WAY bigger issues than who wears the 7 when you lose 40-0.

 

[Old Timer]

So replace Kyle with whoever you think will kick "better". Ilias, Glover, whoever. The forwards will still plod, still make dumb unforced errors and the new saviour halfback will still be kicking from poor field position straight down the fullback's throat.
The first twenty minutes of the Souths game we were actually winning the yardage battle, or at least staying in the fight. Then the dumb mistakes started. Throw in a few dodgy ref calls and it all started to snowball. Not the halfback's fault at all.
I don't have any allegiance to Kyle, replace him with whoever you want. I don't care if he ever plays first grade again for us. Just don't tell me we all of a sudden go from losing 40-0 to winning the game or even being vaguely competitive against Souths just because we swap out Kyle for someone highly unlikely to be capable of making a 40 point difference.
To be honest I would have thought the game against the Warriors was actually the game to be critical of Kyle. A better 7 in that game and I think we win the game with all that possesion early in the second half. Just one more try and we win that game. We had more than enough posession to convert that field position into points.
I think the more reactionary section of the fanbase just want a Kyle shaped scapegoat when there are WAY bigger issues than who wears the 7 when you lose 40-0.

FMD no one is suggesting that we turn around a 40-0 score-line we are merely pointing out the limitations of our halfback and the consequences of having him in the team.

For an entire season our forwards have had to endure a shit kicking game which has afforded them no relief be it from field play or penalties let alone a 40/20.

I am not surprised that they conceded 40 last week they are fatigued from being constantly on the back foot and it was always going to give.

If you took Burton out of the Dog's and subbed him with KF they'd struggle to make the 8 and that is the very reason why the pissed him off to us.

The argument in our forums has been that until last week we had only conceded 13+ twice in the season so that beggars the question what kept us in so many games if our forwards are as bad as you depict them because it certainly wasn't our kicking game or scintillating attack?

There is no doubt a better kicking game would have brought us more wins and kept our forwards fresher for longer.

 

[hook hook]

FMD no one is suggesting that we turn around a 40-0 score-line we are merely pointing out the limitations of our halfback and the consequences of having him in the team.

For an entire season our forwards have had to endure a shit kicking game which has afforded them no relief be it from field play or penalties let alone a 40/20.

I am not surprised that they conceded 40 last week they are fatigued from being constantly on the back foot and it was always going to give.

If you took Burton out of the Dog's and subbed him with KF they'd struggle to make the 8 and that is the very reason why the pissed him off to us.

The argument in our forums has been that until last week we had only conceded 13+ twice in the season so that beggars the question what kept us in so many games if our forwards are as bad as you depict them because it certainly wasn't our kicking game or scintillating attack?

There is no doubt a better kicking game would have brought us more wins and kept our forwards fresher for longer.

There is also no doubt that with stronger carries the kicker wouldn’t have to kick so far, so who’s correct? The answer is both and both are equally to blame for the deficiencies in one another

 

[Saints 32-8]

FMD no one is suggesting that we turn around a 40-0 score-line we are merely pointing out the limitations of our halfback and the consequences of having him in the team.

For an entire season our forwards have had to endure a shit kicking game which has afforded them no relief be it from field play or penalties let alone a 40/20.

I am not surprised that they conceded 40 last week they are fatigued from being constantly on the back foot and it was always going to give.

If you took Burton out of the Dog's and subbed him with KF they'd struggle to make the 8 and that is the very reason why the pissed him off to us.

The argument in our forums has been that until last week we had only conceded 13+ twice in the season so that beggars the question what kept us in so many games if our forwards are as bad as you depict them because it certainly wasn't our kicking game or scintillating attack?

There is no doubt a better kicking game would have brought us more wins and kept our forwards fresher for longer.

Yep, spot on. Shortest kick offs and general play kicks in the comp!! We hand the opposition a 15 metre leg up every set…

 

[Flinstone]

Yep, spot on. Shortest kick offs and general play kicks in the comp!! We hand the opposition a 15 metre leg up every set…

To go with it is an average kick chase.

 

[Flinstone]

There is also no doubt that with stronger carries the kicker wouldn’t have to kick so far, so who’s correct? The answer is both and both are equally to blame for the deficiencies in one another

Most games you see our meters gained in the set is usually less then the oppositions. Than add an average kick and slow chase at the end of it. Always loose that set for set battle.
Maybe it's our slow line speed in defense as well.
Unless the opposing team make errors it's difficult to break them. last wins came against Raiders and Sharks which had a completion rate of 65 & 63% and both games we just win.

 

[Bayside Dragon]

100%

I'm not suggesting this year, and he'll play out the remaining games in JF. Next year he'll take Glover's place in Cup. Form and sustainability will determine if he gets a debut game in '26 (unless there are injuries, suspensions or even those who just not in form). He would also need to shake off the JF tackling style and work really hard on his defense (as will a lot of others also)

Atkinson is an unknown, he may well shine or he may not, that is the only worry, he has no form leading into

Most games you see our meters gained in the set is usually less then the oppositions. Than add an average kick and slow chase at the end of it. Always loose that set for set battle.
Maybe it's our slow line speed in defense as well.
Unless the opposing team make errors it's difficult to break them. last wins came against Raiders and Sharks which had a completion rate of 65 & 63% and both games we just win.

Poor completion rates of Raiders and Sharks could be down to good pressure and line speed from our boys. In both games we did really well to nullify the opposition weapons.

Our general play kicks should be to the edges with our outside backs racing downfield chasing. The rest of the team having more time to form up the defensive line 10m back.

Don't understand attacking kicks not being contested. What is the worst outcome?

This team just looks weary now. The young kids coming up from the juniors seem to have trouble maintaining the intensity of week in week out NRL. Part and parcel of our injury crisis.

 

[Old Timer]

There is also no doubt that with stronger carries the kicker wouldn’t have to kick so far, so who’s correct? The answer is both and both are equally to blame for the deficiencies in one another

The impotency of our forward pack is one thing but it doesn't cause pop gun 35-40m low trajectory easily returned kicks from a bloke that compounds them with highly ineffectual touch finders and a total lack of 40/20's.

Any decent side has times when their forwards struggle for yardage but are buoyed if not rescued by a couple of long kicks or a fortuitous 40/20. Our forwards very rarely ever have that luxury.

KF is unable to kick from a standing position or off just 1 step instead he has to look, catch, take a couple of little pussy steps to try and steady himself and meanwhile the opposition are closing in on him creating pressure and that all occurs because he is not naturally gifted and when you see players much smaller than him kicking the shit out of it and getting their forwards rolling our forwards must scratch their heads and say when will we get one of those.

KF is rusted onto thinking KF is doing a good job and so are you but if either of you were objective you would acknowledge that our forwards get no respite unless it's back to back penalties or ruck infringements.

As I say put KF in as a kicking halfback in any other side and their forwards will wilt under the pressure he creates due to being given that task.

 

[hook hook]

The impotency of our forward pack is one thing but it doesn't cause pop gun 35-40m low trajectory easily returned kicks from a bloke that compounds them with highly ineffectual touch finders and a total lack of 40/20's.

Any decent side has times when their forwards struggle for yardage but are buoyed if not rescued by a couple of long kicks or a fortuitous 40/20. Our forwards very rarely ever have that luxury.

KF is unable to kick from a standing position or off just 1 step instead he has to look, catch, take a couple of little pussy steps to try and steady himself and meanwhile the opposition are closing in on him creating pressure and that all occurs because he is not naturally gifted and when you see players much smaller than him kicking the shit out of it and getting their forwards rolling our forwards must scratch their heads and say when will we get one of those.

KF is rusted onto thinking KF is doing a good job and so are you but if either of you were objective you would acknowledge that our forwards get no respite unless it's back to back penalties or ruck infringements.

As I say put KF in as a kicking halfback in any other side and their forwards will wilt under the pressure he creates due to being given that task.

I was as objective as you can get… looking at it from both sides of the coin not just the blind both Flanagan hatred