LADDER WATCH

Frenzy. · May 1, 2023

Quigs said:
Deadset the Cap'n waffles on at times.

He is to this forum like Bill Collins was to fillums. You know the far can know all critic.

You quants just don't like a dose of reality. We get 4 freebie points before some teams get byes. We lose when they do get byes the games won becomes real and relevant.

But hey, I don't mind doing the thinking for you old farts

Ozzi_78 · May 1, 2023

I just don’t wanna hear it… but I’ve always said why give points for byes at all?

fizzgig · May 1, 2023

Frenzy. said:
You quants just don't like a dose of reality. We get 4 freebie points before some teams get byes. We lose when they do get byes the games won becomes real and relevant.

But hey, I don't mind doing the thinking for you old farts

How about a spreadsheet that shows position based on equitable games played instead of rounds then?

Surely not too hard (I think we're still second and the bunnies are further down the table because it won't count their win against the Broncs... until everyone gets a chance for a 9th game).

Or count Byes as 1 not 2 points so half-pregnant (we're third); or 0 - which will distort the ladder in the other direction due to less opportunities (still 3rd)?

sladden road · May 2, 2023

fizzgig said:
How about a spreadsheet that shows position based on equitable games played instead of rounds then?

Surely not too hard (I think we're still second and the bunnies are further down the table because it won't count their win against the Broncs... until everyone gets a chance for a 9th game).

Or count Byes as 1 not 2 points so half-pregnant (we're third); or 0 - which will distort the ladder in the other direction due to less opportunities (still 3rd)?

Yes..spreadsheet that updates each round..
spreadsheet, spreadsheet !!!

Quigs · May 2, 2023

sladden road said:
Yes..spreadsheet that updates each round..
spreadsheet, spreadsheet !!!

Stakes spreadsheets are always superior to the Cap'ns.

I hope Stake gets the contract to supply the correct details.

Dragon Slayer · May 2, 2023

Quigs said:
Stakes spreadsheets are always superior to the Cap'ns.

I hope Stake gets the contract to supply the correct details.

I’d sleep with one eye open Quigs.

I have a feeling you may be walking the plank very soon.

Ozzi_78 · May 2, 2023

Quigs doesn’t sleep, up for a piss every hour makes it hard.

Quigs · May 2, 2023

Not munch makes it hard these days !!!!!

Ozzi_78 · May 2, 2023

I knew that was coming. Or not coming as it may be.

Quigs · May 2, 2023

Just like the Vagnar Forces in Bakhmut, I just ran low on ammo.

Frenzy. · May 2, 2023

Dragon Slayer said:
I’d sleep with one eye open Quigs.

I have a feeling you may be walking the plank very soon.

Quigs had made 2 consecutive political posts elsewhere.

He's on ignore

Frenzy. · May 2, 2023

fizzgig said:
How about a spreadsheet that shows position based on equitable games played instead of rounds then?

Surely not too hard (I think we're still second and the bunnies are further down the table because it won't count their win against the Broncs... until everyone gets a chance for a 9th game).

Or count Byes as 1 not 2 points so half-pregnant (we're third); or 0 - which will distort the ladder in the other direction due to less opportunities (still 3rd)?

OK, but you need to give me an objective, fact based definition of equitable.

Wouldn't change the fact that we're second with less games won.

The message is simple, don't get overexcited till the dust settles.

Quigs · May 2, 2023

What me worry.....

Does that make three?

Anymore then three I might get Stake to make a spreadsheet.

DJDL · May 4, 2023

Frenzy. said:
OK, but you need to give me an objective, fact based definition of equitable.

Wouldn't change the fact that we're second with less games won.

The message is simple, don't get overexcited till the dust settles.

How about something like this:
Rearranged based on percentage of games won.

fizzgig · May 4, 2023

DJDL said:
How about something like this:
Rearranged based on percentage of games won.

Sorry Frenzy and DJDL (too many beers when I asked) but Yep!
If you remove the "2 points for Byes" you could end up with this:

Adjusted Position	NRL Position	Team	Played	Wins	Losses	Draws	Byes	PD	NRL Points	Points No Byes	Win %age (no Byes)
1	1	BRONCOS	9	7	2	0	0	70	14	14	77.8%
2	3	RABBITOHS	9	6	3	0	0	78	12	12	66.7%
3	2	SHARKS	8	5	3	0	1	82	12	10	62.5%
4	4	STORM	8	5	3	0	1	24	12	10	62.5%
5	5	ROOSTERS	8	5	3	0	1	-7	12	10	62.5%
6	6	SEA EAGLES	8	4	3	1	1	-4	11	9	56.3%
7	8	WARRIORS	9	5	4	0	0	-6	10	10	55.6%
8	10	DOLPHINS	9	5	4	0	0	-11	10	10	55.6%
9	7	PANTHERS	8	4	4	0	1	72	10	8	50.0%
10	9	TITANS	8	4	4	0	1	-11	10	8	50.0%
11	11	RAIDERS	8	4	4	0	1	-41	10	8	50.0%
12	12	EELS	9	4	5	0	0	34	8	8	44.4%
13	13	BULLDOGS	9	4	5	0	0	-79	8	8	44.4%
14	14	KNIGHTS	9	3	5	1	0	-36	7	7	38.9%
15	16	COWBOYS	9	3	6	0	0	-68	6	6	33.3%
16	15	DRAGONS	8	2	6	0	1	-25	6	4	25.0%
17	17	TIGERS	8	1	7	0	1	-72	4	2	12.5%

DJDL · May 5, 2023

Nice one @fizzgig.
I knew I was forgetting something - remove the 2 points for the bye!
That’s what happens when you start spreadsheeting before you’ve finished your first coffee haha.

fizzgig · May 5, 2023

DJDL said:
Nice one @fizzgig.
I knew I was forgetting something - remove the 2 points for the bye!
That’s what happens when you start spreadsheeting before you’ve finished your first coffee haha.

Haha, the Tigers gave it away with a 25% win ratio lol

Frenzy. · May 6, 2023

fizzgig said:
Haha, the Tigers gave it away with a 25% win ratio lol

Fizzgig wins. He sees the point I reckon.

Ozzi_78 · May 21, 2023

5 teams Equal first on 16pts. That warriors game… fmd.

fizzgig · May 21, 2023

Adjusted Position	NRL Position	Team	Played	Wins	Losses	Draws	Byes	PD	NRL Points	Points No Byes	Win %age (no Byes)
1	2	RABBITOHS	12	8	4	0	0	94	16	16	66.7%
2	4	BRONCOS	12	8	4	0	0	77	16	16	66.7%
3	1	PANTHERS	11	7	4	0	1	139	16	14	63.6%
4	3	SHARKS	11	7	4	0	1	88	16	14	63.6%
5	5	STORM	11	7	4	0	1	24	16	14	63.6%
6	6	DOLPHINS	11	6	5	0	1	1	14	12	54.5%
7	7	WARRIORS	11	6	5	0	0	-6	12	12	54.5%
8	8	RAIDERS	11	6	5	0	1	-57	14	12	54.5%
9	9	SEA EAGLES	11	5	5	1	1	-8	13	11	50.0%
10	10	TITANS	11	5	6	0	1	-31	12	10	45.5%
11	11	ROOSTERS	11	5	6	0	1	-67	12	10	45.5%
12	13	EELS	12	5	7	0	0	44	10	10	41.7%
13	14	COWBOYS	12	5	7	0	0	-82	10	10	41.7%
14	15	BULLDOGS	12	5	7	0	0	-93	10	10	41.7%
15	12	KNIGHTS	11	4	6	1	1	-36	11	9	40.9%
16	16	TIGERS	11	3	8	0	1	-42	8	6	27.3%
17	17	DRAGONS	11	3	8	0	1	-45	8	6	27.3%

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