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Nothing new, been happening for decades, the all dominant Wigan team of the late 80's early 90's was bult on their owners investment. These are the same clubs that keep pushing for higher salary cap and marquee allowances lol

It'd be interesting to know what SL+ is returning and what BBC is paying for SL games to get the full picture.

As for IMG, the reason we have a lessor deal is because the sport hasnt grown its tv audience. IMG is there to fix that. Time will tell if they can and if the investment in them is worthwhile. Far too early to judge yet.
 

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Nothing new, been happening for decades, the all dominant Wigan team of the late 80's early 90's was bult on their owners investment. These are the same clubs that keep pushing for higher salary cap and marquee allowances lol

It'd be interesting to know what SL+ is returning and what BBC is paying for SL games to get the full picture.

As for IMG, the reason we have a lessor deal is because the sport hasnt grown its tv audience. IMG is there to fix that. Time will tell if they can and if the investment in them is worthwhile. Far too early to judge yet.

IMG is there to collect money while they can. Not an owner.
 

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IMG is there to collect money while they can. Not an owner.
Nope they are there to help grow the game so future tv deals improve. Lets say the 400k was split between the clubs, do you think each club getting 33k pounds is going to make a blind bit of difference to the games profile, marketing and appeal? Or do you think a multi national company that is hugely successful in marketing, media and production will? I know who my money is on.
 

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Before the tv deal got cut in half some clubs made profits and the smaller ones made reasonable losses

Clubs are also facing a big drop off In business income

Someone said clubs on average have lost around one million pounds pa in revenue

If the tv deal doesn’t go up soon half the league will end up broke

Next tv deal needs to be around 30 million pa to get club losses down to reasonable levels

They shouldn’t add more teams till it gets to a 40 million pa tv deal
 

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Nope they are there to help grow the game so future tv deals improve. Lets say the 400k was split between the clubs, do you think each club getting 33k pounds is going to make a blind bit of difference to the games profile, marketing and appeal? Or do you think a multi national company that is hugely successful in marketing, media and production will? I know who my money is on.
Rfl threw away close to a milllion pounds pa on bad ceos and chairman

The ranking criteria ing came up with anyone could’ve

They have done nothing else to grow the game
 

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Before the tv deal got cut in half some clubs made profits and the smaller ones made reasonable losses

Clubs are also facing a big drop off In business income

Someone said clubs on average have lost around one million pounds pa in revenue

If the tv deal doesn’t go up soon half the league will end up broke

Next tv deal needs to be around 30 million pa to get club losses down to reasonable levels

They shouldn’t add more teams till it gets to a 40 million pa tv deal
Again you've got clubs spending big on marquee players, then screaming because they are making a million pound+ loss!

You have to look at why the TV deal was cut, that is why IMG has been brought in.

Chicken and egg, they cant add more teams and get less grant share until they get more tv money.
They might not get more tv money until they have more teams.
I'm sure if Sky had offered more than 2million quid a year in the negotiations for a 14 team comp then we'd have it by now.

What they need is competition for the rights, or take this golden opportunity they have been given to really forge ahead with SL+ and control their own destiny. If they could get 150k+ subscribers to it they'd have more revenue and cover production costs. Thats around 12k subscribers per club.
 

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Rfl threw away close to a milllion pounds pa on bad ceos and chairman

The ranking criteria ing came up with anyone could’ve

They have done nothing else to grow the game
you have no idea lol

There is a stack of stuff going on media and promotion wise. Its just the start of a long journey to drag RL beyond its traditional size and reach.

Just the fact that so many clubs in the space of 2 years are getting their sht together, as witnessed by the improved gradings, is a massive step forward.
 

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you have no idea lol

There is a stack of stuff going on media and promotion wise. Its just the start of a long journey to drag RL beyond its traditional size and reach.

Just the fact that so many clubs in the space of 2 years are getting their sht together, as witnessed by the improved gradings, is a massive step forward.
Loads of English journos are questioning what they actually do

400k is a lot
 

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Again you've got clubs spending big on marquee players, then screaming because they are making a million pound+ loss!

You have to look at why the TV deal was cut, that is why IMG has been brought in.

Chicken and egg, they cant add more teams and get less grant share until they get more tv money.
They might not get more tv money until they have more teams.
I'm sure if Sky had offered more than 2million quid a year in the negotiations for a 14 team comp then we'd have it by now.

What they need is competition for the rights, or take this golden opportunity they have been given to really forge ahead with SL+ and control their own destiny. If they could get 150k+ subscribers to it they'd have more revenue and cover production costs. Thats around 12k subscribers per club.
All games on fta / pay tv and at different time slots ala nrl

I suggested this like 15 years ago and people said it would be bad for crowds
 

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Loads of English journos are questioning what they actually do

400k is a lot
Thats because its very easy to throw darts. There is no doubt SL social media, youtube etc have all improved dramatically. SL's star players are beginning to be put out there in general mainstream media and events, the grading system is forcing clubs to sort their businesses out, have stronger community reach which will lead to more fans and tv audience, improve stadia encouraging more attendance etc. Its just the beginning but in true RL style idiots think a century of incalcitrant behaviour will be turned around overnight.


Like I said either give the 400k to the clubs and see nothing different or give it to a hugely successful international company that knows how to do this sht. Easy choice I'd say! 400k to turn an entire code around is a pittance!
 

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All games on fta / pay tv and at different time slots ala nrl

I suggested this like 15 years ago and people said it would be bad for crowds
eh? All games are on FTA/Pay tv in this deal?

English RU just signed a deal with TNT for their premiership comp. Be interesting to see for how much, can't find any figures anywhere. There last deal was on par with what SL just got.
 
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eh? All games are on FTA/Pay tv in this deal?

English RU just signed a deal with TNT for their premiership comp. Be interesting to see for how much, can't find any figures anywhere. There last deal was on par with what SL just got.
Some are behind that stupid paywall where you pay for each game

And I’m talking about games not clashing at all like the nrl
Thats because its very easy to throw darts. There is no doubt SL social media, youtube etc have all improved dramatically. SL's star players are beginning to be put out there in general mainstream media and events, the grading system is forcing clubs to sort their businesses out, have stronger community reach which will lead to more fans and tv audience, improve stadia encouraging more attendance etc. Its just the beginning but in true RL style idiots think a century of incalcitrant behaviour will be turned around overnight.


Like I said either give the 400k to the clubs and see nothing different or give it to a hugely successful international company that knows how to do this sht. Easy choice I'd say! 400k to turn an entire code around is a pittance!
And the rfl could’ve implemented the grading system itself and saved 400k pa

I read the img guy who is running things is actually based in Australia and is handling all this remotely lol
 

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Some are behind that stupid paywall where you pay for each game

And I’m talking about games not clashing at all like the nrl
And the rfl could’ve implemented the grading system itself and saved 400k pa

I read the img guy who is running things is actually based in Australia and is handling all this remotely lol
They are all on Sky sport, some are on FTA. All on SL+ but some on delay which is a hinderance to improving subscriptions.

Yeh you can just create a grading system out of thin air, consult and get clubs to agree with it and audit clubs every year for no cost lol And the grading system is one, all be it one of the most important, aspects of their role.

IMG is an international company, there will be staff working on it from all corners of the globe. Digital nomads these days are everywhere! I see they have just got cricket Sth Africa a new media deal. Have you seen the Orgs they are working with? Olympics, Fifa, MLS, LPGA, MotoGP, NasCAR, NFL just to name a few. These guys know what they are doing!
 

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RL Commercial and IMG are delighted to unveil a new look and feel for Rugby League’s official fan app – Our League – powered by market leading digital platform provider, Urban Zoo.

Supporters can now access all the latest news, videos and key information via Our League’s extensive Match Centre, which covers all levels of the game. This includes the three Betfred Super Leagues – Men’s, Women’s and Wheelchair – as well as cup competitions, such as the Betfred Challenge Cup, and Community Rugby League divisions like the National Conference League.

Ahead of the 2025 Betfred Super League season launch in February, Our League will also host a brand-new Predictor game that enables fans to predict results across the professional game against fellow supporters and earn weekly rewards, as well as improved functionality across interactive features such as Player of the Match votes, polls, quizzes and much more. These features will also be available across the Super League and Rugby League websites.

For the first time, Rugby League fans will be able to sign into their respective Rugby League One accounts via the Our League app. Our League is available in both the Apple App Store and Android’s Google Play Store.

Originally launched in 2017, Our League was a first in British sport and immediately became an integral part of Rugby League’s digital offering. Membership has climbed steadily over the subsequent seven years to pass 300,000, with consistently high levels of engagement.

The re-launch follows a record-breaking 2024 that saw over 8.5M engagements across all Rugby League social media channels and over 162M individual views on Rugby League video content in 2024. Last season also saw the highest-performing International Test Series, Betfred Challenge Cup Final, Magic WKND and Betfred Super League Play-Offs and Grand Final, leading to a collective Year on Year uptick of 154% in engagements and 61% in impressions.

The continued digital transformation across RL Commercial’s platforms has been delivered by IMG as part of their long-term strategic partnership with Rugby League. It covers the Betfred Super League, Betfred Challenge Cup, Rugby Football League and England Rugby League social media channels across platforms such as Facebook, X, TikTok, Instagram and YouTube.

 

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WB to refresh your money whey IMG is critical to SL

Sky has now reduced the fee it pays for Super League’s domestic TV rights in two consecutive deals, taking the league’s earnings from £40m per season in 2021 to £21.5m in 2024. In short, Super League has entered a recession.

Matt Dwyer, vice-president of sports management at IMG, was heavily involved in brokering Super League’s latest deal. He says that Sky’s concerns about Super League’s lack of growth were reflected in the latest result, which saw the league’s income reduced by a further 10 per cent until the end of 2026.

“Sky said to us: ‘Look, you’ve been very steady for a long period of time and you need to be growing the fanbase.’ We need that critical mass to start moving the needle, and that takes time. That’s why this is a 12-year deal.”

Super League and IMG’s first major task is to build that critical mass beyond the faithful tens of thousands that attend matches every week.

It will be done in all the ways you might expect: social media account revamps; content creation plans and pushing its star players across timelines and feeds as much as possible.

“Our priority is growing audience, attendance, but a growing number of young people are following players as opposed to clubs,” Jones explains. “We need to know what is going to entice that seven-year-old to take an interest in rugby league. Is it Wigan Warriors, or is it going to be [Wigan Warriors star] Bevan French?”

Jones and Dwyer firmly believe it will be the latter. Super League has initially focused this strategy on a small group of players and coaches, bringing their stars to other Sky- and IMG-backed properties, such as the UFC, the DP World Tour and Wimbledon, for content creation purposes.

This content is being pushed out across central and club social media accounts, which Dwyer says have seen strong aggregate increases across follower count and engagements in 2024 compared to last year.

“The challenge for us is commercialising that,” Jones says. “Ultimately, it’s great having an engaged digital audience but we need to commercialise it. There has been a focus this year with those 12 Super League clubs, with grading in mind, to go through the same [social media development] process that we went through 18 months ago.”

Commercialising Super League is a different challenge for IMG, which must treat the property in a very different way to some of its other rights-holder partners.

The average fan of Wimbledon and The Open – IMG’s longest-standing rights-holder partnerships – tends to have far more disposable income than the average Super League fan. Rugby league is a predominantly working-class sport in England, with top teams based in some of the country’s poorest communities.

This is not lost on Dwyer or Jones, who know that Super League’s place in a family’s weekly budget is not to be taken for granted.

“We have an incredibly passionate fanbase and I think that as long as we give them the best possible product and the best sporting experience they can possibly have, they will prioritise rugby league as part of their weekly spend,” Dwyer says. “That was one of the ideas behind the concept of grading: ensuring that every club is offering fans a top-level experience that represents value for money on their hard-earned pounds and pence.”

 
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And from Feb 2024:

For 12 months, the question has been asked of IMG by some critics: what are they actually doing? It felt as though there were little discernible, noticeable changes but in reality, the hard work that was done away from the spotlight in 2023 is now being seen before our eyes. There has arguably never been as positive a buzz ahead of Thursday night’s big kick-off and as Dwyer himself correctly puts it to Love Rugby League: “If you’re a rugby league fan, it’s never been this good.”

Of course, that means that Super League can now tell its stories much more than previously. That then rolls the responsibility back around onto IMG to deliver on that heightened attention to capture new supporters. That, in turn, leads to more income through a variety of streams including commercial and ticketing. But this is still just the start in Dwyer’s eyes.

“The amount of coverage the league is going to get this year broadcast-wise, including obviously the new deals with Sky and the BBC and all the implications of every game being broadcast.. if you’re a rugby league fan then it’s never been this good in this country,” he tells Love Rugby League.

“If you’re a casual fan who may have found it difficult to consume our product in the past, it’s right in your face now. Our ability to tell our story and show our sport is really positive, but I think from IMG’s point of view as well as RLC, there’s a reason this was a 12-year deal. That was because we have a lot of steps to go in this process.

“If there was a magic wand, we’d have done a one-year deal, fixed everything and Rhodri (Jones) would be off running RLC and I’d be doing something else. But it doesn’t work like that when you’re trying to grow a sport. None of us are unaware of where the sport was and what we’re trying to do to grow, and that takes time.

“From my point of view, it’s hard to articulate that to everyone. The clubs understand what’s going on, but it’s about trying to get that information out there. There’s a lot being done in the background but there’s a lot more to do and it’s going to take that full period of time to get to the level we want to be at as a sport.”
So how do they do that? A cornerstone of the plan, for this year at least, revolves around another groundbreaking development for Super League: the launch of SuperLeague+, the competition’s new in-house subscription channel. There will be over 100 live Super League games, full match replays, highlights and other on-demand content each season shown on SL+, and Dwyer identifies the launch as a key moment in IMG’s long-term plan when it comes to hooking new fans both here and abroad.

“It allows a different way for a different customer or fan to consume our product,” Dwyer explains. “That’s really unique and really different. Where people have got a bit confused is to how this fits in: this is complimentary to the Sky broadcast deal. It’s an offering for people who may not be Sky subscribers, people who want to consume the archive content that’s going on there – which we have big expectations for.

“There’s new programmes we can put on there but really important to us is that it’s a market for our international fans too. Historically, depending on where they live, they may have not been able to watch any Super League games.

“I use Watch NRL here in the UK and being able to have an offering that goes the other way is really exciting. That’s where we’re focussing our attention now because we’re a week away from the season starting, but capitalising off the back of the amount of exposure we’re going to get this year, it’s unprecedented.

“It’s our job to get more people to look at our sport as a result. There may be people who are sitting on the sidelines about rugby league thinking ‘yeah, I like this sport’, and we want to capture them. It’s a great game but we need to let people experience it.”
 

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Worth noting in the consideration of media rights for SL, IMG are produces of sports content as well. They could well produce SL in the future for RFL to sell to different providers or stream their own product.

Catalans announced they have 4500 subscribers to SL+ in the first year of its existence. Thats likely over 750,000 pounds. Times that by 12 if they can build it with other clubs and the 21.5million pound Sky deal is now more like 30million pound. Keep building on that and FTA interest and the skys the limit (no pun intended!).

I do believe the NRL, SL and French RL could come together to launch a global RL streaming service offering year round RL from across the globe. Now that would be an exciting option as a fan! IMG would be well placed to assist with that.
 

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They are all on Sky sport, some are on FTA. All on SL+ but some on delay which is a hinderance to improving subscriptions.

Yeh you can just create a grading system out of thin air, consult and get clubs to agree with it and audit clubs every year for no cost lol And the grading system is one, all be it one of the most important, aspects of their role.

IMG is an international company, there will be staff working on it from all corners of the globe. Digital nomads these days are everywhere! I see they have just got cricket Sth Africa a new media deal. Have you seen the Orgs they are working with? Olympics, Fifa, MLS, LPGA, MotoGP, NasCAR, NFL just to name a few. These guys know what they are doing!
All games live and at different times
 

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If img don’t get 30 million la for the next tv deal then it’s a fail

40 million and sure they have justified getting 5 million pounds over 12 years
 
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