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Lockyer accused of bar "tackle"

MEATWAD

Juniors
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The simple truth about this incident and most like it -- it's never the crime, it's the coverup!

Broncos dunderheads ought to have listened in media management 101. The are still trying to deny it - see the report and the stupid comment that Bennett makes about tackling practice. This ensures it will roll on and on and on.

The two-bit Brisbane establishment like to think they can get away with anything. All that hypocritical cant from Bennett and Cullen up here about other teams just melts away when you discover they let their players go on an all night bender in the middle of a final campaign. f**k em!!! Go Melbourne.
 

salivor

First Grade
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I am really talking about teh Bronc's hard line approach to drinking and poor public behviour. They have been very tough in the past and I find it disapponting this hard line appears, at least on the surface, to have given way to the importance of the finals series, simply because of the talent involved. Don't misunderstand where I am coming from here either. I like the Broncs, certainly above the Storm, but the perception of a selective tough stance depending on who it is and what games are before the team, would seem to detract from the standards the club has worked hard to build and exist by. They have been applauded for their stance in the past and rightfully so. I just find this very disappointing

Have we been applauded for our tough stance in the past? For every player we've sacked it's been proceeded by the same dickheads having a crack at the club. In this instance we don't sack players and it's the same dickheads having a crack at the club. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't and people wonder why this club has an us against them mentality at times.
 

Jimmy

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It is a fact that Bronco players are gods in Queensland and can do no wrong. A lot of their supporters ( not all ) choose to defend them on this forum and refuse to acknowledge any wrong doing. The best example is the men's toilet incident. The 3 players have not been charged and, if there is not evidence to support sexual assault, there should be no charges.

This does not alter the fact that they entered the toilet with a woman and they get no credit for that. I choose to withdraw any admiration I had for these players and that is my right.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Yep, it's Lockyer alright. And probably a nothing incident.

Yet, the players have brought the focus on themselves by a lazy application of common sense, and given the media some ammo to trash the game, and sadly their own reputations.

It's simple, if you don't swim in crocodile infested waters, you won't get eaten by a crocodile. If you don't f**k up in public, the media can't savage you.

Bennet is right - alcohol is a societal problem, not just Brisbane's. Yet, I'm wondering why he doesn't demand restraint from his players? Bennet whinged loud and long about player behaviour the last time he had the national squad. Here is an opportunity to show the world he's got control of his players, that his players respect his word, and he's active in setting a code of conduct in his players.

Instead, he's being as weak as piss. And the public are seeing through it.

Here's the bottom line. IF WAYNE PEARCE CAN ENFORCE AN ALCOHOL BAN DURING ORIGIN - WHY CAN'T BENNETT??????
 

LeagueXIII

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Oh please, there was nothing in it, so what if he lied to the media, you don't think the media lie to you or distort the truth to get an angle? Your all bagging the Broncos what about the media......are these the REAL ISSUES in life they should be reporting on? Fair dinkum, it's tabloid rubbish.
 

GC_Gladiator

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I hate the broncos but what a nothing story. I just watched the footage and its a bit of a stretch to even call it a tackle.
 
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I think we are losing sight of the real issue if we focus on Locky and the tackle. I think complaining about what looked like a harmless muck around by locky is stupid let that go. I mean come on, it's not like he decked the guy.

To my mind this footage further emphasises the problem of binge drinking in our game over all and that is not limited to Brisbane.

I have a major issue with how the toilet incident is being handled by the club, but this footage again is about the games image, the clubs image, the players image. None of it does any good what so ever.

The NRL, the Clubs and senior players need to sit down and put together a uniform approach to a singular code of conduct for ALL players. they need to establish a single method of investigation and take this out of club hands to ensure no double standards.

An independent committee to deal with off field behavioural issues is needed. Otherwise we risk media attention of the wrong kind, public riducule and ultimately sponsor withdrawal or at a minumium greater trouble to attract it.

Come on Gallop, get off that borrowed bronco high horse, grow some balls and do something constructive for once. Being a CEO is about LEADERSHIP, not fence (or horse) sitting
 
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Have we been applauded for our tough stance in the past? For every player we've sacked it's been proceeded by the same dickheads having a crack at the club. In this instance we don't sack players and it's the same dickheads having a crack at the club. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't and people wonder why this club has an us against them mentality at times.

Edit to be clear:

No one in the tackle incident should be sacked or stood down.

Re standing down: Sal, i am not on a bandwagon of sacking these guys from the toilet incident either. IMO they should have been stood down until the behaviour was investigated fully by teh club. The Court action is up to the courts. If the actions of the players is condoned by teh club and it's sponsors then thats the end of it when it comes to should they play, but the club has not said that. Instead they say it will take some time to investigate. Piss poor IMO.

This whole debarcle and all those prededing it thoughout the clubs (none are innocent no matter how they might like us to believe) highlights the need for the NRL and Mr Gallop to grow some balls and work with the nclubs to put an independent commission together to investigate these types of issues and determine the players playing status based on what has transpired. Only then will we stand a remote chance of these issues being dealt with appropriately. Leaving this at club level leads to double standards and pressures on the clubs to make decisions that in public view may suggest winning games is more important then addressing the issue.

Players in all clubs who digress need a solid platform provided to them to understand the final consequences of their actions to their career and a pathway imposed on them if necessary, to address bunge drinking problems etc.

It is not all the players fault or the clubs. the NRL and Mr Gallop need to establish something to help the game deal with this so the imgae of the game, the clubs, the sponsors and players can be protected.
 
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alexc

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Going to be an interesting (read: hilarious) walk back to the city for beers through caxton and casablanca.
 

madunit

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given how sh*thouse and soft a tackler Lockyer really is, I can't see what all the fuss is about.

If there were to be a video collection of Lockyers biggest tackles, this one will rank in the top 5, and he still didn't get the bloke to the ground.
 

Surely

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Oh please, there was nothing in it, so what if he lied to the media, you don't think the media lie to you or distort the truth to get an angle? Your all bagging the Broncos what about the media......are these the REAL ISSUES in life they should be reporting on? Fair dinkum, it's tabloid rubbish.

Of course they lie, they tell people they are journalists.
 

andirect

Juniors
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wow There Aren't Enough Threads About This, Jimmy Just Had To Make Another One To Show How Much He Hates The Broncos. Great Job Mate, Except The Problem Is Not A Lot Of People Really Care!
 

Razor

Coach
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I hate the broncos but what a nothing story. I just watched the footage and its a bit of a stretch to even call it a tackle.

The point isn't the tackle, it's that Lockyer lying to media - "No it wasn't me", all the Broncos fanboys saying "It looks nothing like him", etc. This new footage clearly shows it was him. So why did Lockyer lie to the media? We've had Bronco fanboys crucifying players from other clubs lying to the media over incredibly minor issues, yet this one they're fine with?
 

MEATWAD

Juniors
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Oh please, there was nothing in it, so what if he lied to the media, you don't think the media lie to you or distort the truth to get an angle? Your all bagging the Broncos what about the media......are these the REAL ISSUES in life they should be reporting on? Fair dinkum, it's tabloid rubbish.


what about the media? there are plenty of wrong things with the media to be sure. especially in their coverage of league.

but over the past five years if the broncos haven't learnt their lesson as to how the media behaves in this situation it's their own fault.

as i said ... in these matters what brings you down is never the crime, it's the coverup.
 

Loudstrat

Coach
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Oh please, there was nothing in it, so what if he lied to the media, you don't think the media lie to you or distort the truth to get an angle? Your all bagging the Broncos what about the media......are these the REAL ISSUES in life they should be reporting on? Fair dinkum, it's tabloid rubbish.

Maybe, but if an average League fan like yourself knows the media prowls around to latch onto issues and hype them up, then you'd think the test captain would.

I think we are losing sight of the real issue if we focus on Locky and the tackle. I think complaining about what looked like a harmless muck around by locky is stupid let that go. I mean come on, it's not like he decked the guy.

To my mind this footage further emphasises the problem of binge drinking in our game over all and that is not limited to Brisbane.

I have a major issue with how the toilet incident is being handled by the club, but this footage again is about the games image, the clubs image, the players image. None of it does any good what so ever.

The NRL, the Clubs and senior players need to sit down and put together a uniform approach to a singular code of conduct for ALL players. they need to establish a single method of investigation and take this out of club hands to ensure no double standards.

An independent committee to deal with off field behavioural issues is needed. Otherwise we risk media attention of the wrong kind, public riducule and ultimately sponsor withdrawal or at a minumium greater trouble to attract it.

Come on Gallop, get off that borrowed bronco high horse, grow some balls and do something constructive for once. Being a CEO is about LEADERSHIP, not fence (or horse) sitting

what about the media? there are plenty of wrong things with the media to be sure. especially in their coverage of league.

but over the past five years if the broncos haven't learnt their lesson as to how the media behaves in this situation it's their own fault.

as i said ... in these matters what brings you down is never the crime, it's the coverup.

Excellent posts.

remember, no club is more responsible for the media's current relationship with the code than Brisbane.
 

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