Long Live Cronulla

[Surely]

nope only 30


its like a concurrence sentence

Nope 47, your joint venture has had 47 opportunities to win a title in the same period cronulla had only 30.

 

[Gaba]

No. If the St George Illawarra Dragons won a premiership, that would mean St George would've won 15 and St George Illawarra 1.

Wests and Balmain aren't claiming 2005.

Nope i showed the ywill classed a win for the stgeorge dragons and a win for stgeorge illawarra dragons , its a joint venture not a merger like the wests tigers are

 

[Gaba]

Nope 47, your joint venture has had 47 opportunities to win a title in the same period cronulla had only 30.

no they havent in 30 years the dragons had 17 and Illawarra had 13 chances same as the dragons had.

so its 26 if we are playing your game, because you can only take when the sharks,dragons and steelers were in the comp together

 

[God-King Dean]

 

[maestro1]

Well anybody claiming that the Dragon's history only dates back to 1999 because two entities merged, better also say that the NRL's history only dates back to 1998. ARL merged with Stupid League. If you don't, you are a hypocrite. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, Steve Menzies cannot be credited with only being a one club man, as the NRL and channel 9 told us ad nauseum last season. So if you listen to the NRL and channell 9 when they say the Dragons were established in 1999, you must also say that Menzies cannot claim his 300 games with the one club.

The Charity Shield is billed by the NRL as the traditional opening to the season, played by traditional rivals. Last time I checked, that particular event has been played since the early 80's.

It seems the NRL wants the best of both worlds. When it suits them to promote the game, Saints are a traditional team from 1921. When it doesn't suit, Saints have only been around since 1999. Sorry to bust your balloon (especially sardine supporters), but Saints next premiership will be their 17th premiership.
They wear the same jersey, same emblem, same home ground, same history.

How come the roosters aren't a new club. They changed their identity from the Eastern Suburbs roosters, to the Sydney Roosters. Using your crap argument, this means their history only dates back to recent times. Same goes for the Berries (sorry, Bulldogs).

I've followed the Dragons since 1970 and when they merged, I still followed the Dragons.

Sardine supporters, having nothing else to criticise our great club, have latched onto this crap and are holding onto this security blanket with such fervour. Security blanket, anyone. Pathetic.........................

 

[fizman]

I have only read the Title and agree 100%

 

[redvscotty]

I hope they do stay in the league, everyone needs a bit of comic relief.

This thread has served its purpose.

 

[maestro1]

Cronulla also changed their name from Cronulla Sutherland Sharks to the "Sharks". Their jersey is unrecogniseable from the one that Steve Rogers played in. Do we now take away part of their history (what history - ha ha ha ha :lol::lol::lol.

For the record, I believe the NRL dates bak to 1908, the sharks date back to 1967, the Bulldogs date back to 40's ???, the roosters date back to 1908 and steve menzies only ever played for one club.

David Middleton is a nuffy who persists with this crap about the Dragons only beeing around since 1999, because he was too dumb to think of a more equitable solution.

By the way roosters fans who believe they were the first club to win 1000 games. You were only credited that because of Middleton's dodgy stats (I'm sure Politis convinced him of this). The first club to win 1000 games were the St George Illawarra Dragons......Talk about manipulating stats to suit an argument. Politis and Middleton are the reason why there is an attempt to reshape Dragons history. We won't be fooled "Uncle Nick".

 

[Surely]

no they havent in 30 years the dragons had 17 and Illawarra had 13 chances same as the dragons had.

so its 26 if we are playing your game, because you can only take when the sharks,dragons and steelers were in the comp together

What you are deluded.

So since 1979 the dragons only had 17 chances to win a premiership, did you fail maths ?

 

[Surely]

I hope they do stay in the league, everyone needs a bit of comic relief.

This thread has served its purpose.

It sure has, it has highlighted your JV hasn't won a f**king thing in 47 attempts.

 

[maestro1]

Hey "Surely", how's that security blanket going? Hold on for dear life champ.

1000 games and still no cigars.
Adelaide's that way >>>>>>>>>>>

 

[redvscotty]

Incorrect!

You cannot get an answer of 47 years for a 30 year period. Your hands smell like ham.

 

[maestro1]

For 17 years of that the Dragons and the Steelers were competing for the same premierships you nong.:crazy:

 

[Surely]

For 17 years of that the Dragons and the Steelers were competing for the same premierships you nong.:crazy:

Doesn't matter does it, your JV has had 47 attempts at it and come up with squat.

 

[Loudstrat]

Ahh the intelligence in this thread. Poor Boy has a family!

 

[maestro1]

Are you thick???.........My team is the Dragons. I didn't follow the Steelers. So to correct you, my team has had 30 opportunities tow win the premiership since 1979. What the Steelers did is irrelevant.

 

[redvscotty]

Ahh the intelligence in this thread. Poor Boy has a family!

Don't you start Eel boy.

 

[maestro1]

Just for yu "Surely"



Awwww, aint that cute...........:lol::lol::lol:

 

[Bluebags1908]

I posted this a few weeks ago on the Jubilee Avenue forums, and have cut-and-pasted it below. The arguement centred around the fact that Wests Tigers don't combine their Wests/Balmain records and so Saints for Dragons/Steelers shouldn't. I posted a counter-arguement.





It could be argued, that the diggest difference between the Wests Tigers and St. George Illawarra is that Balmain and Wests still both field seperate senior open-age teams in the NSW Cup competitions, the so the respective Balmain and Wests NRL records from 1908-1999 'belong' to the NSW Cup sides, with Wests Tigers having their own records since 2000.

St. George and Illawarra do not field seperate teams at a senior level, so it could be suggested that this qualifies the joint venture to assume the records of both the Dragions 1921-1998 and Steeleers 1982-1998. In my humble opinion, the only criteria St. George need to fulfill to officially incorporate the records from 1921-1998 into the merged teams records is endorsement and approval from the Steelers. If the Steelers agree to it then it becomes an internal club matter between the two joint-venture parties and if that issue is resovled the records from 1921-1998 should become officially part of the joint venture records.

I notice that the Gold Coast records from 1988-1998 are included in David Middleton's yearbook and is seperately listed on the same page beside the Titans records. I can't see how St. George Illawarra can't combine the St. George records from 1921-1998 with the joint team records and then list the Steelers records seperately beside it as the Titans have done.

If it's good enough for Gold Coast to have their full history of records listed in the yearbook I can't see why the Dragons can't have the same. After all, St. George make up half of the existing joint venture, whereas the old Gold Coast from 1988-1998 has not direct connection to the current Titans club.

And as Middleton has listed Gold Coast 1988-1998 records in his yearbook he leaves himself open to inconsistencies. For e.g. why isn't the Newcastle records in 1908-1909 also listed with the Knights records?

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

If Cronulla can't operate as a business and a professional football club, then I'm happy to see then fail. If they remain a successful business, I'm happy to see them fail on the football field. Either way, I honestly couldn't give a sh*t. Businesses come and go, so do football clubs. Ask Newtown or Norths fans about that.