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Looking back at ancient controversies

I Bleed Maroon

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The off season itch has well and truly set in, so I've been trawling the Youtubes for shit to watch. This hit my recommended, and two controversial (read: massively f**ked) moments in the vid stand out like a sore thumb.

The hand of God - That call was straight up outrageous. It begrudges me to give the Cows a bit of rope on anything, but they had every right to be utterly filthy at that call. The ball rockets forwards off Foran's hand. If it isn't corruption, it's some of the worst incompetence you will ever see.

Fix Again: Roosters vs Canberra Granny - .....How the f**k Ben Cummins stayed employed after that six again signal (then pretends like he didn't do it, shameless merkin) proves he must have some compromising material on someone high up at the NRL. He's lucky Simple Jack didn't straight up deck him, because I would have. I doubt it decided the GF because Canberra looked more or less out of their depth for the majority of it against an out of sorts Sombreros, but that late game moment was the old Politis chequebook in action.

Discuss some memorable controversial calls, even ones that don't make the video, because what better way to survive the off season than fuming about f**k ups that happened donkeys ages ago.
 

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Cows have been in a few. I cant recall what year but Cows vs Chooks and that merkin Lui got pinged for a knock on that wasn't costing Cows the one of the great comebacks and progression in the finals.

It seems Cows are on the wrong end of a few & Chooks are on the right end of them. Politis must be a wizard.

Edit, just watched the vid & it's in there. That was a f**ked decision. lol
 
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Cows have been in a few. I cant recall what year but Cows vs Chooks and that merkin Lui got pinged for a knock on that wasn't costing Cows the one of the great comebacks and progression in the finals.

It seems Cows are on the wrong end of a few & Chooks are on the right end of them. Politis must be a wizard.

Edit, just watched the vid & it's in there. That was a f**ked decision. lol
The 2004 Cows v Chooks game was interpreted as a controversy of the Cowboys players not packing the scrum in time by the video creator.

For mine that's the wrong issue, the mistake from the ref was that Mini knocked on and Roosters players clearly re-gathered the ball from an offside position, and it should have been a penalty awarded in front of the posts.
 

Munky

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Cows have been in a few. I cant recall what year but Cows vs Chooks and that merkin Lui got pinged for a knock on that wasn't costing Cows the one of the great comebacks and progression in the finals.

It seems Cows are on the wrong end of a few & Chooks are on the right end of them. Politis must be a wizard.

Edit, just watched the vid & it's in there. That was a f**ked decision. lol

The comeback against the Roosters began with a Tom Brady special IIRC. Would have been called as forward in a close game (except Mitch Moses...)

Similar to the 2020 GF where a clear obstruction was let go by the video ref since they felt sorry for Penrith at 26 nil down.
 

soc123_au

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The 2004 Cows v Chooks game was interpreted as a controversy of the Cowboys players not packing the scrum in time by the video creator.

For mine that's the wrong issue, the mistake from the ref was that Mini knocked on and Roosters players clearly re-gathered the ball from an offside position, and it should have been a penalty awarded in front of the posts.
Was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. The video is fairly Qld centric, but you guys have certainly been ripped in some important games over the years. Well compensated in Origins over the same period though.
 

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The comeback against the Roosters began with a Tom Brady special IIRC. Would have been called as forward in a close game (except Mitch Moses...)

Similar to the 2020 GF where a clear obstruction was let go by the video ref since they felt sorry for Penrith at 26 nil down.
That 2020 one was a horror show, I was dumbfounded when we were awarded that.. Kind of made up for some of the first half howlers against us though.
 

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Roosters 2010 Grand Final: Early in the game Brett Morris was so far in* before passing that it became a meme. Next tackle Saints get a try.
Later Dean Young scores a try that seals the game after juggling the ball into JWH's arm.
 
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The 2004 Cowboys v Roosters prelim already got a mention, so here's some more:

The 2012 Decider (TM). Qld awarded a try from a clear obstruction, which ultimately sealed the game (and the series) for them.

2014 Game 2: NSW are all set to win the shield back for the first time in 8 years, having just scored from Trent Hodkinson. From the kick-off, with less than 10 to play and the Blues up by 2, Sharon Woods doesn't get out of the way and the ball grazes him. But the officials don't want to look at it again, not when history could be made. Game on, series win Blues.

The 2016 dead-rubber. NSW play like absolute rubbish and Qld are all set to sweep the series, but cleansweeps are bad for the concept of Origin (TM, Ch.9, betting agent) and it's also Paul Gallen's last ever Origin game so strings are pulled all night to keep NSW in the contest. Right when it looks like the game is done, NSW arse their way to a miracle try so Gal gets his final conversion kick, chaired off a winner and Laurie Daley keeps his job for another 12 months (in hindsight, a grave mistake). Even Joey Johns is grumbling after the game at the blatant stitch-up job that favoured his side all night.

The 2019 Decider (no TM, as it was at Accor and not The Home Of Origin (TM Ch.9, QRL). NSW are cruising when Tyson Frizell is penalised for an "escort" penalty, the likes of which happen dozens of times normally with no penalty in a regular game. But Qld need a try to keep the contest alive, so penalty Maroons. Tramp Stamp scores from the ensuing set of 6 as the commentators gush about how amazing it is that this happens time and time again in Origin. Thankfully, justice prevails as the Blues stage their own miracle try in the dying seconds to win the game- and the series. According to JT in the post-match, NSW were "probably the better side" but this is ok because it's JT so it's just #passion, not at all a #whinge like Joey does.

2020 Game 1: With NSW trailing and a minute left, Felise Kaufusi gets to hold down in the tackle and drain the clock for a full 30 seconds unpenalised. Even after this time wastage, NSW appear to have one last shot at glory, but the ref blows full time right as Cleary looks to dive for the line and score. It doesn't matter, so long as millions of Qlders and the betting agencies are happy.

2020 Game 3: Fox is chasing a kick and taken off the ball when he is all set to score and tie up the Decider (TM) late in the game. In any other game it'd be a penalty try, but not this time because...reasons. It ultimately proves the difference as the Worst Qld Team Ever (TM Paul Gallen, QRL, The Courier Mail) wins the game and the series. Thank goodness KWEEEEEEENSLANDUH!!! is an actual thing, not at all influenced by 50/50 decisions going their way in Decider(TM)'s, otherwise Origin as we know it would have died years ago.

I guess Origin really is different...
 
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Munky

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The 2004 Cowboys v Roosters prelim already got a mention, so here's some more:

The 2012 Decider (TM). Qld awarded a try from a clear obstruction, which ultimately sealed the game (and the series) for them.

2014 Game 2: NSW are all set to win the shield back for the first time in 8 years, having just scored from Trent Hopkinson. From the kick-off, with less than 10 to play and the Blues up by 2, Sharon Woods doesn't get out of the way and the ball grazes him. But the officials don't want to look at it again, not when history could be made. Game on, series win Blues.

The 2016 dead-rubber. NSW play like absolute rubbish and Qld are all set to sweep the series, but cleansweeps are bad for the concept of Origin (TM, Ch.9, betting agent) and it's also Paul Gallen's last ever Origin game so strings are pulled all night to keep NSW in the contest. Right when it looks like the game is done, NSW arse their way to a miracle try so Gal gets his final conversion kick, chaired off a winner and Laurie Daley keeps his job for another 12 months (in hindsight, a grave mistake). Even Joey Johns is grumbling after the game at the blatant stitch-up job that favoured his side all night.

The 2019 Decider (no TM, as it was at Accor and not The Home Of Origin (TM Ch.9, QRL). NSW are cruising when Tyson Frizell is penalised for an "escort" penalty, the likes of which happen dozens of times normally with no penalty in a regular game. But Qld need a try to keep the contest alive, so penalty Maroons. Tramp Stamp scores from the ensuing set of 6 as the commentators gush about how amazing it is that this happens time and time again in Origin. Thankfully, justice prevails as the Blues stage their own miracle try in the dying seconds to win the game- and the series. According to JT in the post-match, NSW were "probably the better side" but this is ok because it's JT so it's just #passion, not at all a #whinge like Joey does.

2020 Game 1: With NSW trailing and a minute left, Felise Kaufusi gets to hold down in the tackle and drain the clock for a full 30 seconds unpenalised. Even after this time wastage, NSW appear to have one last shot at glory, but the ref blows full time right as Cleary looks to dive for the line and score. It doesn't matter, so long as millions of Qlders and the betting agencies are happy.

2020 Game 3: Fox is chasing a kick and taken off the ball when he is all set to score and tie up the Decider (TM) late in the game. In any other game it'd be a penalty try, but not this time because...reasons. It ultimately proves the difference as the Worst Qld Team Ever (TM Paul Gallen, QRL, The Courier Mail) wins the game and the series. Thank goodness KWEEEEEEENSLANDUH!!! is an actual thing, not at all influenced by 50/50 decisions going their way in Decider(TM)'s, otherwise Origin as we know it would have died years ago.

I guess Origin really is different...

Origin isn't refereed by written down rules.

It is refereed by vibes.

The 2023 GF was loaded with rep level players across the park and a good game of Rugby League was played. Put the two sides in blue and maroon jerseys and the entire game would be treated differently.
 

Reflector

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Origin isn't refereed by written down rules.

It is refereed by vibes.

The 2023 GF was loaded with rep level players across the park and a good game of Rugby League was played. Put the two sides in blue and maroon jerseys and the entire game would be treated differently.
Absolutely, no shadow of a doubt.

And you'd have people here claiming that Cleary got lucky and hasn't yet proved himself at Origin level, because Cleary Doesn't Step Up In Origin (TM)
 

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The 2004 Cows v Chooks game was interpreted as a controversy of the Cowboys players not packing the scrum in time by the video creator.

For mine that's the wrong issue, the mistake from the ref was that Mini knocked on and Roosters players clearly re-gathered the ball from an offside position, and it should have been a penalty awarded in front of the posts.
Remember it well, BASTARDS!!!
 

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Fix Again: Roosters vs Canberra Granny - .....How the f**k Ben Cummins stayed employed after that six again signal (then pretends like he didn't do it, shameless merkin) proves he must have some compromising material on someone high up at the NRL. He's lucky Simple Jack didn't straight up deck him, because I would have. I doubt it decided the GF because Canberra looked more or less out of their depth for the majority of it against an out of sorts Sombreros, but that late game moment was the old Politis chequebook in action.
I don't know why people get so upset about a correct decision. Ok the ref changed his mind but not to a wrong decision. If it were the other way around it would barely get a mention.
 

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The 2004 Cows v Chooks game was interpreted as a controversy of the Cowboys players not packing the scrum in time by the video creator.

For mine that's the wrong issue, the mistake from the ref was that Mini knocked on and Roosters players clearly re-gathered the ball from an offside position, and it should have been a penalty awarded in front of the posts.
Cowboys had a point in that game, way more than they did in 2014 of which it was definitely a knock on and the carry on afterward was bizarre. I understand it was peak conspiracy theory time for the cowboys though after the hand of god and 7 tackle set the previous 2 seasons.
 

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Thread has some potential for sure, no doubt there's plenty of posters on here that remember every time their team was wronged in the last 30 years.
 

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