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Mad Monday

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I don't think this sort of behaviour is great but ...

the two main players at fault here are the Bulldogs club for not organising an event away from prying eyes and not keeping better control of the players.
and the other one is the media itself this isn't news because its "role models" being disgraceful, its about sensationalism and selling / ratings. The players are not bringing the game down, they are embarassing themselves but its the media that is bringing the game down by sensationalising this stuff
Dude, they rented a private room on the 3rd story... well away from prying eyes. The Telecrap went to extraordinary events to get those photos.
 

Timbo

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You seem to be oblivious to the fact they are paid a lot mostly because they are in the public eye, generate revenue for their employee by being in the public eye unlike bankers. A sport, clubs, players brand is the valuable thing these days like it or not.
In regards to comments of high salary, that is because part of that relates to their public image. Bankers dont have built into their contracts bad behaviour, NRL professional players do. If someone offered me $700k to play sport and part of the deal was dont get pissed in public I'd take the deal over a $60k job where you can do what you like.

Again a strawman argument, no-one is saying they cant go out, in fact hardly anyone is saying you cant go out and get blotto on your end of year party, just dont do it naked (is this an Australian thing by the way? No matter how drunk I never felt the need to strip off in front of my mates!) where you can be seen, dont throw up in the street and dont pass out on the sidewalk. Are we asking too much?

This quote from Grant in the 2017 Annual report is interesting, cant recall seeing anything released as mentioned?
"If our game is to be the most respected of sports, it is critical to acknowledge how it is really seen by others. In 2012, in aspirational terms, we defined the vision for the game as ‘the greatest game of all’. In 2017, we undertook a major project to understand rugby league’s brand i.e. what it is remembered for most. The findings of the brand research are sobering and indicate a need for change. They will be the subject of detailed presentations to all stakeholders early in 2018"
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/documents/nrl-annual-report-2017.pdf

You seem to be very oblivious to the fact that I couldn’t find a f**k to give about your opinion without using the Hubble Space Telescope.

Should we move mad Monday to ANZ? How will it effect crowd averages?
 

Xcalibre

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is some one going to break it to him he is going to a club that has a woman beater on the books

That's it, I'm boycotting the NRL!!

A player sitting on a stool not perfectly upright is a travesty!

Who'd want to be an NRL player? Scrutinised for most of the year, train and play in the toughest sport on earth. Get to finally let is all hang out after a difficult season and you're the big, bad news story. For a bit of nudity and drunkeness? Seriously, this is what Australia has become? Times have changed eh? Not for the better sadly. People thinking by sanitising society it improves it, have it backwards.
 

Perth Red

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That's it, I'm boycotting the NRL!!

A player sitting on a stool not perfectly upright is a travesty!

Who'd want to be an NRL player? Scrutinised for most of the year, train and play in the toughest sport on earth. Get to finally let is all hang out after a difficult season and you're the big, bad news story. For a bit of nudity and drunkeness? Seriously, this is what Australia has become? Times have changed eh? Not for the better sadly. People thinking by sanitising society it improves it, have it backwards.

Yes times have changed, like it or not. Sooner players realise it the better I guess.
 

wittyfan

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Dude, they rented a private room on the 3rd story... well away from prying eyes. The Telecrap went to extraordinary events to get those photos.

The terrace wasn't part of the private room booked by the club.
 

roofromoz

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If nothing had happened on Monday there probably would have been an article bemoaning how the game has lost its characters, and then have a top 10 list of the most infamous hijinx, with the shit in the shoe, Monaghan getting friendly with a dog, Raper naked with a bowlers hat, etc.

The outrage machine always wins out.
 

Bazal

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Being realistic for a moment, I do think it's time for players to take a step back and think about how they act, unfortunately. And that's not to say that I have any issue with what the Dogs players got up to, especially given it was largely in a private setting.

The problem is other people. These guys are public figures, like it or not, and there are utter parasites like the Daily Telegraph who will go to any lengths to create a story like this, for utter morons and delicate helicopter parents to be outraged over and for people to latch onto for whatever personal crusade they might have. So far just on social media I've seen it used in anti-NRL posts, "toxic masculinity" posts, and that sort of rubbish.

Greenberg's response is gutless as well...If you want to criticise the players, that's fine, but given the apparent lengths the gutter-trash excuse for a journo went to you'd hope a strong leader would be at least acknowledging that most of this behaviour was actually behind closed doors and the game doesn't appreciate organisations who go to those kinds of lengths to dig up a negative story.

It's sad for the players who should be able to let their hair down however they like so long as they aren't hurting anyone, but in the modern world I think Mad Monday needs to become something different.
 

ed-grimley

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Maybe if they were allowed to get shit faced more often they’d be able to handle mad Monday a bit better.

I hope everyone films a pissed up journo if they witness it.
It would be good to see people in the media come under this sort of scrutiny. They have been entrusted to present what is happening in society in an ethical, balanced and responsible manner.
 

hrundi99

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If you were at a pub with your missus and a bloke started taking his gear off do you reckon you'd think it was ok? The vomiting and passing out stuff isn't a good look. Either do it all behind closed doors or have a bit more decorum. I have no issue with Mad Monday as a concept as long as it's out of public view.
 
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If you were at a pub with your missus and a bloke started taking his gear off do you reckon you'd think it was ok? The vomiting and passing out stuff isn't a good look. Either do it all behind closed doors or have a bit more decorum. I have no issue with Mad Monday as a concept as long as it's out of public view.
She'd laugh along with everyone else in the room
 

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If you were at a pub with your missus and a bloke started taking his gear off do you reckon you'd think it was ok? The vomiting and passing out stuff isn't a good look. Either do it all behind closed doors or have a bit more decorum. I have no issue with Mad Monday as a concept as long as it's out of public view.
Ummm... it was out of public view, hence the private room. The Telecrap went to extraordinary (and illegal) lengths to get those photos.
 

Bazal

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Ummm... it was out of public view, hence the private room. The Telecrap went to extraordinary (and illegal) lengths to get those photos.

Given they were technically in the public view on the terrace, it's not illegal.Just scummy.
 

Perth Red

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Given they were technically in the public view on the terrace, it's not illegal.Just scummy.

Wouldn't hate porn laws make the online publishing of someone in the nude without their permission illegal? Didn't some AFL player get publicly hanged by same media outlet for doing that to a woman recently?

Beattie not happy and News scum once again use it to damage the games standing, this time when NRL are trying to get support from WA Govt.
The West Australian paper just reported his visit and positive discussion, nothing about this crap.

PerthNow:
PAUL Kent has revealed the timing couldn’t have been worse for the Bulldogs’ Mad Monday furore.

Addressing the club’s drunken antics on NRL 360 on Tuesday evening, Kent said ARL chairman Peter Beattie is currently trying to secure a funding deal with Western Australian premier Mark McGowan.
“I wrote in my column [today], Peter Beattie the ARL Commissioner is in Perth as we speak. Today he met with the Premier of Western Australia trying to get them to commit funding to the NRL.

“And his words to me were, ‘It’s embarrassing, I look like a goose’. He walks in asking for money and when they say, ‘Oh rugby league, let’s see what’s happening in rugby league?’, they see this.”

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/r...o-funding-ng-7024c24d4d5a158d475732788fe049f4
 

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