Manly on Struggle Street as Tigers take cash for granted

[Brycey]

Maybe give every Manly fan a jetpack hmm?

 

[macavity]

Compared to brooky, and this is coming from a manly fan, Parra stadium is a palace. seating all around, decent lighting, decent screen, no mud and overflowing dunnies every freaking time. No caravans doubling as food and drink service areas with some bloke cooking up a barbie behind it.

compared to EAS too. but what exactly does this have to do with Newcastle?

Exactly how much more work does newcastle stadium need, and how many times a year is it a sell out?

about another 40mil. many many more times than brooky, and with a larger capacity.

It doesnt just service the northern beaches, its all there is once you cross the bridge up all the way to gosford. Brooky services more people in terms of population than newy.

no, it doesnt service any more area than the Northern Beaches, and no it certainly doesn't service a larger population than EAS.

 

[c_eagle]

Why are the Newcastle Knights representative of Northern NSW if the Sea Eagles can't claim to represent the area between the SHB and the Central Coast?

 

[BrisVegas]

The stadium facilities available to clubs will become more and more a case of the haves and have-not's over the coming decade. Those clubs playing out of the more advanced venues will have a greater chance of drawing casual spectators and converting them to regular attendee's and will have a huge advantage in drawing corporate support where a premium can be made. Not to mention the differences in Gate Reciepts.

One of the best ways to ensure that the government keeps the grants to your clubs stadium flowing (besides being located in a marginal seat) is for the venue to accommodate as many tenants as possible.

More games being played = more spectators = a higher return on the governments continual investment.

There is a clear correlation between the number of games hosted at a venue and the amount of government money spent on upkeep and upgrades.


Take the "Big 3" NRL grounds for example:

Suncorp Stadium: Broncos, Reds, QLD Roar, NRL Origin games, NRL Finals Series

Telstra Stadium: Rabbitohs, Dragons, Parramatta, Tigers, Bulldogs, Swans, NRL Origin games, NRL Finals Series

Aussie Stadium: Roosters, Warratahs, Sydney FC, NRL Finals Series



Other NRL grounds that cater for more than one tenant:

Gold Coast Stadium, Robina (2008): Titans, Gold Coast Galaxy ('09), Some Union

EAS: Newcastle Knights, Newcastle Jets FC

Canberra Stadium: Canberra Raiders, ACT Brumbies, likely venue for a Canberra A-League club.

Central Coast Stadium: Central Coast Mariners FC, 7 NRL games in '07


NRL grounds that cater for the one club:

Dairy Farmers Stadium*
Brookvale
CUA Stadium Penrith
Oki Jubilee Stadium # (no games this season)
Toyota Park, Cronulla
WIN Stadium*
Campbelltown Stadium
Leichhardt Oval
Parramatta Stadium # (reduced by a further 2 games this season)

* Indicates a stadium that has been earmarked as a home ground for an A-League team.


One of the keys to the Storm getting a new stadium was Melbourne Victory FC committing to be co-tenants, (hopefully) securing Melbourne's long term financial viability in the NRL.


Clubs that are currently splitting their home games between multiple venues are going to have to bite the bullet soon and primarily committ to a single venue. With the facilities required for an NRL team, venues that host half a dozen top flight games won't be able to atract the funds to keep them up-to-date and quickly be relegated as not up to scratch.

 

[jabroni]

compared to EAS too. but what exactly does this have to do with Newcastle?



about another 40mil. many many more times than brooky, and with a larger capacity.



no, it doesnt service any more area than the Northern Beaches, and no it certainly doesn't service a larger population than EAS.

What im getting at is that newcastle has better facilities, seats more, and are getting more funding, while manly aint getting sh*t. We are after a 1/4 of what newcastle are getting, and we wont get sh*t, even though its quite obvious we need it more.

2007 average home crowd of newcastle = 15439 (largest was 25524)
2007 average home crowd of manly = 15312 (largest was 19944 - gates closed/sellout)

Newcastle capacity = 26162
Manly capacity = 23000 (reported, but during sellouts last year we didnt get over 20000)

Figures courtesy of http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/

work it out buddy.

 

[gr8_1]

Campbelltown Full time tenants -
Campbelltown Eagles JBC
Macarthur Rams NSW Premier League Soccer
Wests Magpies NSWRL State Cup
Wests Magpies NSWRL Junior Reps
SWAS NSWRL Junior Reps

and now and then they host a NRL game.

 

[jabroni]

Campbelltown Full time tenants -
Campbelltown Eagles JBC
Macarthur Rams NSW Premier League Soccer
Wests Magpies NSWRL State Cup
Wests Magpies NSWRL Junior Reps
SWAS NSWRL Junior Reps

and now and then they host a NRL game.

Yeah but the current facilities are more than enough to cover those, Manly also has the Rats as well as junior stuff, not sure about where Manly UNited play their soccer.

 

[mightybears]

boo hoo manly.

 

[macavity]

Why are the Newcastle Knights representative of Northern NSW if the Sea Eagles can't claim to represent the area between the SHB and the Central Coast?

because 99% of the people in that area hate you.

 

[macavity]

2007 average home crowd of newcastle = 15439 (largest was 25524)
2007 average home crowd of manly = 15312 (largest was 19944 - gates closed/sellout).

Manly = grand finalists

Newcastle = 15th, lost best player, awful season on field and off.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Manly = grand finalists

Newcastle = 15th, lost best player, awful season on field and off.

Well said.

 

[Green Machine]

WTs have been saying the same sh*t for years.

I think the situation is a lot different now once the upgrades are completed at Leichhardt and Campbelltown, which will increase revenue on game days at these venues. Roy had mentioned that the State Government was committed to adding more funding at Campbelltown, so it would be hard to believe they would not play more games at Campbelltown and get further funding. If the Wests Tigers play their cards right, they should be able to milk $20m of commitments ($10m at each venue) out of both parties at the next federal election,