Mark O'Neill

[King-Gutho94]

While on the topic of Moses, Hooper pointed out that the 29-year-old could actually become a free agent again as early as November, 2025 due to clauses in his contract.


“This is another ridiculous deal that Eels management have ticked off on,” he said.

“Last year they trumpeted the fact that Mitchell agreed to a five-year extension with the club. It’s not a five-year extension, it’s a three-year extension (but) in 2027 and 2028 he has player options in his favour... if things do turn pear-shaped at Parramatta, if he wants to he can get out.”

Moses contract clause leaves Eels on the hook as spotlight turns on forgotten man in NRL mess

Eels on hook over Moses clause as spotlight turns on forgotten man in NRL mess

www.foxsports.com.au

Yep Player options are great business.

Lets have the same the circus we did last year for half the season with our halfback.

Will he or wont he take up his player option.

f**k off back to Wests Tigers Buckets you have destroyed this club enough with the bald fraud that is now sitting at Leeds.

 

[Chipmunk]

"The Frank Ponnisi of the West". Every other club in the NRL must be having a good ol' laff at that one...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why would any club agree to a player option?!? You’d have to ask one of the ten clubs who have them on their books. The obvious answer is that it’s a way to compensate a player without increasing his value under the cap. As for whether they are a problem, it’s only the case if the option is for more than the player is worth.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lets have the same the circus we did last year for half the season with our halfback.

Will he or wont he take up his player option.

You obviously assume he won’t take up the option. It is there to project the player if he gets injured during his off contract year. It’s not get out clause, it is assumed he will chase the best deal when he can, no different to any other off contract player. But if he can’t get anything better he takes the clause, which he is entitled to from taking less cash up front (and using less cap space) on his previous negotiation.

 

[Pazza]

Why would any club agree to a player option?!? You’d have to ask one of the ten clubs who have them on their books. The obvious answer is that it’s a way to compensate a player without increasing his value under the cap. As for whether they are a problem, it’s only the case if the option is for more than the player is worth.

 

[Pazza]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Better clubs than his have them. They are a bargaining chip, with pros and cons. Just like club options. They aren’t free.

 

[the phantom menace]

Why would any club agree to a player option?!? You’d have to ask one of the ten clubs who have them on their books. The obvious answer is that it’s a way to compensate a player without increasing his value under the cap. As for whether they are a problem, it’s only the case if the option is for more than the player is worth.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Well i am putting the heat well & truly on "Frank Poniessi of the West" now we have all this cap space clear for 2025 is to ensure he gets these deals & players over the line Ryles wants.

If the R&R continues to be shitshow for the next 12 months and this cap space we have cleared out and we fail to capitalize

He should be frog marched out of the joint back to Concord.

 

[T.S Quint]

Well i am putting the heat well & truly on "Frank Poniessi of the West" now we have all this cap space clear for 2025 is to ensure he gets these deals & players over the line Ryles wants.

If the R&R continues to be shitshow for the next 12 months and this cap space we have cleared out and we fail to capitalize

He should be frog marched out of the joint back to Concord.

I don't think they want him there either.

 

[Sensei Cobra]

Agree but it’s also possible the recruitment strategy and some of the moves we have made recently will be about building the squad over the next 2-3 seasons not just for 25

 

[Gronk]

Well i am putting the heat well & truly on "Frank Poniessi of the West" now we have all this cap space clear for 2025 is to ensure he gets these deals & players over the line Ryles wants.

If the R&R continues to be shitshow for the next 12 months and this cap space we have cleared out and we fail to capitalize

He should be frog marched out of the joint back to Concord.

So how will you know which players Ryles wants or wanted and who the guy with the petty cash tin managed to land ?

 

[Twizzle]

well for mine right now with Ryles being the new coach it's JR wants them and MON has to go fetch

the big issue for me is that who are the main scouts or talent identifiers ?

doesn't MON just do what he's told or is he part of the scouting network ?

 

[Gronk]

well for mine right now with Ryles being the new coach it's JR wants them and MON has to go fetch

the big issue for me is that who are the main scouts or talent identifiers ?

doesn't MON just do what he's told or is he part of the scouting network ?

Logic suggests that the coach sets a direction. The R&R committee have input on both players and budget. A list is produced based on availability. The coach most probably puts that list in order by priority. The R&R committee prolly rubber stamp what the coach wants. MON and his underlings goe to market and report back frequently with updates.

I think there is a perception that one person is the Lone Ranger in this operation and I reckon that that notion is flawed.

 

[Stagger eel]

Logic suggests that the coach sets a direction. The R&R committee have input on both players and budget. A list is produced based on availability. The coach most probably puts that list in order by priority. The R&R committee prolly rubber stamp what the coach wants. MON and his underlings goe to market and report back frequently with updates.

I think there is a perception that one person is the Lone Ranger in this operation and I reckon that that notion is flawed.

well that's right....

MON's sidekick AKA as the list manager Ben Rogers has a massive role to play in this also.

 

[Gronk]

well that's right....

MON's sidekick AKA as the list manager Ben Rogers has a massive role to play in this also.

Which is my point. There are people on here who just throw rocks at individuals when it is most likely a result of poor targeting, poor recognition of talent, poor manager relationships, arrogance, lack of negotiations skills OR on the flip-side maybe the past roster is based on what BA wanted and that's what he got. Or maybe a complicated combination of everything which resulted in a poorly overseered cluster f**k.

The Board don't work full time and they delegate responsibility to those who do. There are a lot of people on last chances I reckon.

 

[Delboy]

Ben Rogers role is NRL recruiting, and MON hired him for what results. Still no real answers to cap management, options and short roster for the last 2 years.

It’s not personal , just need to do their jobs. The minimum requirement is staff in those positions should be in the top quartile of performers, especially in a club as big as the Eels. Need convincing they are in the same post code as some of their peers.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Ben Rogers role is NRL recruiting, and MON hired him for what results. Still no real answers to cap management, options and short roster for the last 2 years.

It’s not personal , just need to do their jobs. The minimum requirement is staff in those positions should be in the top quartile of performers, especially in a club as big as the Eels. Need convincing they are in the same post code as some of their peers.

As my signature states, they have to come up with the goods this year.

The whispers were that BA was interfering in their roles.

The Media wanted to spin it as BA not having full control. People here want to spin it as MON or BR not having full control. Which ever why you slice it it has been shit.

Starting from July we have to hope things are improving.

 

[84 Baby]

Well i am putting the heat well & truly on "Frank Poniessi of the West" now we have all this cap space clear for 2025 is to ensure he gets these deals & players over the line Ryles wants.

If the R&R continues to be shitshow for the next 12 months and this cap space we have cleared out and we fail to capitalize

He should be frog marched out of the joint back to Concord.

I’m confused. I thought FPOTW was the short king from the south of city?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

As my signature states, they have to come up with the goods this year.

The whispers were that BA was interfering in their roles.

The Media wanted to spin it as BA not having full control. People here want to spin it as MON or BR not having full control. Which ever why you slice it it has been shit.

Starting from July we have to hope things are improving.

This was the first year since 2019 that we've lost more than we've won. That doesn't suggest any problem with recruitment/retention at all. Should we never win fewer than 13 games in a season? It's bullshit. A bunch of merkins were badly out of form this year and the coach has paid for it. That suggests there's nothing wrong with the squad.