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Matautia contract updates

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I am confident the boys will stay. Look at the positives. We are younger across the park this season. Boyd has gone. We have a very good balance of youth and experience. The key players for us to succeed are Mullen, Clydesdale and Tariq Sims. Clydesdale really has to step it up this season or his NRL career will be over as far as being a starting number 9 goes. Far too many talented dummy halves emerging for him to have a quiet season. He has to make his mark. Make no mistake we have the most gifted young half in the junior ranks in this nation in Brock lamb. Patience is the key. No other way to do it. We are building very dominant side of Juniors if we play it right.
 
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Tom155

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So whats happening with the brothers, been awful quiet for a long time....................

Agent tussle holds up Mata’utia talks

THE Knights will have to wait until after Christmas to take their first tangible step towards keeping Australian winger Sione Mata’utia and his brothers in Newcastle from 2016 onwards.

Eighteen-year-old Sione and older brothers Chanel and Pat are contracted to the Knights until the end of 2015, but they have signed letters of intent to join 2014 NRL runners-up Canterbury on four-year deals starting in 2016.

The Knights have until June 30 to match or better those terms because the Bulldogs are not allowed to register contracts with the NRL until after that date.

The Newcastle Herald reported on October 14 that the brothers had begun legal proceedings to sever ties with their manager, Chris Haddad, and that process has prevented the Knights from starting contract negotiations in earnest.

Haddad responded by seeking legal advice, telling the Herald on October 15: ‘‘I’ve always acted in the best interests of the boys.’’

The Herald has been told the brothers and their legal representatives were due to meet Haddad and Paul Massey, the head of the NRL’s accredited player agent scheme, on Wednesday and Thursday as part of a formal process to seek a resolution.

If the brothers are successful in parting company with Haddad, they are reportedly keen to link with Warrick Wright’s Black Money management company. Wright’s clients include Knights halfback Tyrone Roberts, who was formerly managed by Haddad, and former Knights dual international Timana Tahu.

‘‘Whether it’s Chris Haddad or whoever the new manager is, the Knights want to sit down with the boys as soon as possible to put a deal in front of them, and that can’t happen until they sort all this out,’’ a source with knowledge of the negotiations told the Herald.

‘‘The boys want to get it sorted sooner rather than later as well, because it’s put a bit of stress on them through all of this, but that doesn’t look like happening now until after Christmas.

‘‘Whatever happens there, the Knights will still have to come up with an offer that’s commercially attractive to the boys, so that’s where things are at at the moment.’’

The Knights, who will close their offices on Friday and reopen on January 5, hope to be in a position to table their counter-offers towards the middle or end of next month.

‘‘The club will do everything in its power to keep the three Mata’utia brothers in Newcastle, but there is a process in place and we are waiting for them to clarify issues around their management,’’ Knights chief executive Matt Gidley said.

‘‘Once that situation is resolved we will be in a position to take our negotiations with them to the next step.’’

Haddad could not be contacted on Thursday for comment.

An NRL spokesman indicated Massey would not discuss individual cases.

A Knights spokeswoman declined a Herald request to speak to Sione on Thursday.

Sione has said several times in the past two months that his and his brothers’ preference was to stay in Newcastle and continue their careers with the Knights, but their decision would be based on what was best for their family.

Aged 18 years and 130 days, Sione became Australia’s youngest Test player when he made his debut in the Four Nations against England at AAMI Park on November 2.

He played in three matches in the series and scored his first Test try in Australia’s 22-18 loss to New Zealand in the final at Westpac Stadium in Wellington on November 15.

After a break at the end of the Four Nations, Sione returned to training last week and will join his Knights teammates in a pre-season camp at Port Stephens on Friday.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2774580/agent-tussle-holds-up-matautia-talks/?cs=306
 

Swarzey

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From The Lurker. Like basically everything he says, take it with a grain of salt.

Mata'utia's to stay in Hunter

The latest on the three Mata’utia brothers - who have all signed to join the Bulldogs in 2016… Test rookie Sione and older brothers Chanel and Pat are currently in the midst of a legal wrangle with their manager, and that is holding up the process.
But my mail is the trio will stay in Newcastle - provided the Knights can find them hefty pay rises.


Great news for Knights fans, with the trio rare talents

http://www.sportal.com.au/league/nr...umour-file---friday/fy0r3au6hbu41kp9e1flazq0s
 

Yosh

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Good news I guess. Don't we have a fair chunk of cap opening up soon in the form of Kidley? Split his money among the brothers. Kidley is too injury prone and aging. Would make a lot more business sense to split that risk over three emerging talents.
 
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The Mail has always been they will stay if the money is right! How is that news? Time for Gidley to accept he may need to be sacrificed for our long term future. If Stone can't bring himself to cut Kurt if the need arises, then he needs a new career. Time for the club to get hard arsed and play tough to make sure we keep the best of our junior players.
 
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Yosh

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The Mail has always been they will stay if the money is right! How is that news? Time for Gidley to accept he may need to be sacrificed for our long term future. If Stone can't bring himself to cut Kurt if the need arises, then he needs a new career. Time for the club to get hard arsed and play tough to make sure we keep the best of our junior players.

Might be put of Stone's hands? The upper admin will have to decide.
 

ryana87

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You would think that, with the sheer number of articles that the knights Facebook Page posts about sione, they have him wrapped up........ Maybe just wishful thinking
 

Noname36

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Mata’utia gets ready to renew Knights contract
BRETT KEEBLE March 8, 2015, 10 p.m.

NEWCASTLE teen sensation Sione Mata’utia and his brothers Chanel and Pat hope to sign new long-term contracts with the Knights by the end of the month.

Called up as a late replacement at fullback for captain Kurt Gidley, the 18-year-old Australian winger underlined his value as a utility back by playing a key role in Newcastle’s 24-14 victory over the Warriors at Hunter Stadium on Saturday.

Mata’utia and his brothers are in the process of severing ties with their former manager, Chris Haddad, and he indicated on Saturday that a resolution to that dispute was imminent.

‘‘We’re not far off. We’re trying to seal the deal here, but there’s a few things that we’ve got to sort out,’’ Sione said. ‘‘We’re not far off, so a couple more weeks and it should be sweet.’’

After they settle with Haddad they will appoint a new agent, understood to be Warrick Wright’s Black Money management group, and begin negotiations with the Knights.

Free agents at the end of this season, the brothers signed letters of intent in October to join the Bulldogs on four-year contracts starting in 2016.

But, under NRL rules, they are within their rights to renege on those agreements. The Knights have until round 13 to make acceptable counter-offers to keep them in Newcastle.

‘‘The boys have indicated their management position is nearly finalised and would like to start negotiations regarding staying then,’’ Knights chief executive Matt Gidley said on Sunday.

Mata’utia said he could see some light at the end of the tunnel ‘‘and that sort of brings a bit of pressure off us, my brothers, and it’s awesome now’’.


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‘‘We’re feeling pretty happy and we’ve got a fair idea of where we’re going to stay,’’ he said.

Gidley was a game-day withdrawal after feeling tightness in his hamstring after training on Friday then contacting coach Rick Stone on Saturday morning to confirm he would not play.

Overlooked for a starting centre spot and named 18th man on Tuesday, Mata’utia was likely to have been included in the final 17 even if Gidley had played, but Stone said he was a ready-made replacement at fullback.

‘‘He’s only an 18-year-old young fella, and playing a full game at fullback in those conditions in the NRL is a big step for him,’’ Stone said. ‘‘I think he’s handled it OK and he’ll only get better.’’

Mata’utia said he had become aware of Gidley’s hamstring issue only on Friday.

‘‘It’s not the best way to prepare for a game, but it happens in footy to a lot of players, so I guess you’ve just got to knuckle down and do the job and not get too overwhelmed by it. You’ve just got to treat it as another game and step up,’’ Mata’utia said.

Apart from delivering the final pass for Dane Gagai’s second try in the 58th minute, Mata’utia ran 19 times for 151 metres, and in the 49th minute made a front-on, one-on-one tackle on a runaway Bodene Thompson that up-ended the former Tigers and Titans forward.

Referee Ashley Klein penalised Mata’utia and, though the tackle was not reported, it will be checked by the NRL match review committee on Monday.

‘‘He’s a big boy, so I guess you’ve just got to grit your teeth and go hard and hope for the best. To put your body on the line, that’s what the boys want, and that’s part of that creed to be the player that other players want to play with,’’ Mata’utia said.

‘‘Putting your body on the line is part of that creed, and I try to do that as well.’’

Cheered on by the club’s 1988 ‘‘Originals’’, who played under rules in which such tackles were praised not punished, Mata’utia said he would have enjoyed playing in that era.

‘‘Yeah, mate, the game’s changed,’’ he said. ‘‘I would have loved it to have been a couple of years ago, that tough kind of footy. It’s starting to turn a bit touchy, but you’ve just got to evolve around it and get on with it, I guess.’’

Knights halfback Tyrone Roberts will come under the scrutiny of the match review committee after he was reported for making contact with his knees to the head of Thomas Leuluai as the Warriors hooker scored a try in the 27th minute.

Klein penalised Roberts and awarded an eight-point try.

Warriors halfback Shaun Johnson converted the try then kicked the subsequent penalty goal from in front.

After video referees Steve Clark and Steve Folkes watched multiple replays of the try, Klein said: ‘‘Tyrone, you’ve slid in with the knees there and made contact with the head, so it’s going to be on report, but we’ve also got a possible eight-point try.’’

Roberts replied: ‘‘But I didn’t mean it.’’

Klein said: ‘‘I know, but you’ve made contact with the knee by sliding in.’’

Stone, concerned about the NRL’s new edict banning coaches from criticising referees, was reluctant to comment.

‘‘To be honest, I didn’t even see what happened to Tyrone,’’ Stone said. ‘‘I was thinking, ‘What are they talking about an eight-point try,’ but the way the NRL’s got the refs now, mate, you can deal with that one.’’

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2931014/matautia-gets-ready-to-renew-knights-contract/?cs=306

This sounds promising.
 

Still Nutty

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Yep and I think it puts a lot of why there has been very little done or said up to this point into context...they can't negotiate contracts whilst they have a legally binding relationship with Haddad as their agent, so the hold up has been to resolve that before getting new formal representation and negotiating with the club.

It is nice to hear the progress reported in the press though :):thumn
 

Sacrolishes

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Ok... I have to say. If we re-sign Sione Mata'utia. Then i'll be relatively comfortable in letting Gagai go. Sione is better suited for center anyway over fullback. And if Gids retires at years end, then we have Mamo to hopefully fill shoes.

BUT

IF we re-sign Sione AND Gagai... well... I dont know. I would look at it as keeping Gags in centers and when Gids retires/goes to England Sione can have fullback, which will probably leave Mamo on the outer and signing with another club. Which I would hate... Even though his game on weekend wasn't great by Mamo... A full season in NSW Cup and stints at fullback in FG will definitely decide whether that is the right position for him.

the only other option i think would to be give Mamo one of the Wing positions (which I see his future, I don't see his ball playing skills at fullback) and losing McManus. Which also sucks, because I love McManus... Can't have them all I suppose!

Side note.....Ever notice McManus had the word anus in there... huh...McAnus...that's a harsh nickname that one.
 

perverse

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Mamo is the least important of our back re-signings (excluding the non-Sione Mata'utias anyway) if we can keep Gagai. One of Gagai or Sione will make a fantastic fullback, the other a fantastic centre. Mamo, to me, is still completely unproven... has a lot of speed and some footwork, but little else from what I've seen. The other boys offer a lot more than Mamo at this point.

That isn't to say Mamo can't be a star, and it's not to say he wouldn't go somewhere else and make us look stupid... but I just can't see how you could prioritize him over Sione and Gags at this point. He should be ahead of Chanel and Pat... it's going to depend how smartly the club can manoeuvre their contracts.

I see Mamo as a winger, and not a better one than McManus or Aku at this point. He's better than Chanel, but not worth losing Sione over. Mamo would only be a backup winger in my near-term future plans... and that is something we can get out of Chanel. Gagai and Sione aren't really replaceable by anyone.
 

Noname36

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Ok... I have to say. If we re-sign Sione Mata'utia. Then i'll be relatively comfortable in letting Gagai go. Sione is better suited for center anyway over fullback. And if Gids retires at years end, then we have Mamo to hopefully fill shoes.

BUT

IF we re-sign Sione AND Gagai... well... I dont know. I would look at it as keeping Gags in centers and when Gids retires/goes to England Sione can have fullback, which will probably leave Mamo on the outer and signing with another club. Which I would hate... Even though his game on weekend wasn't great by Mamo... A full season in NSW Cup and stints at fullback in FG will definitely decide whether that is the right position for him.

the only other option i think would to be give Mamo one of the Wing positions (which I see his future, I don't see his ball playing skills at fullback) and losing McManus. Which also sucks, because I love McManus... Can't have them all I suppose!

Side note.....Ever notice McManus had the word anus in there... huh...McAnus...that's a harsh nickname that one.

There's another article in the Herald today saying we're going to offer Gagai an "attractive" deal so the club definitely has him in the plans and wants him to stay (regardless of whether he does or not - he has a lot to weigh up). Stone really likes Gags...you can just tell. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's BJ that isn't as much a part of the future backline plans at the moment. I get the impression that there's not a great deal of love for him at the club at the moment. From the lack of fitness and the reports the senior players laid into him at training for his lack of effort. It's a shame because the guy has so much natural ability...but he needs to get a brain into his head badly. Stone seems to value hard work and reliability so I wouldn't be surprised if he's seeing more value in some of the other blokes at the moment.

I think Stone definitely wants Sione at centre long-term so I don't think he or Gagai re-signing would effect Mamo's future too much. Sione and Gagai's decisions could effect BJ though I think. He's still under contract but I think he might get pushed to the bench if both Sione and Gagai were to re-sign.
 

perverse

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Bj... as effective as he can be, is one of the dumbest footballers I've ever seen make it to first grade. It's a testament to how potent his physicality really is, when it can compensate for his dumbs.

He's a bloke who could cost you a grand final in the blink of an eye. High risk.
 
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Because of the fact that bj just does not learn from his stupidity I would be happy to f**k him off. I just can't handle his brain snaps.
 

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