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Match Discussion: Round 2 vs Newcastle @ McDonald Jones Stadium

Who will win? Round 2: Newcastle v Wests Tigers

  • Newcastle Knights 13+

    Votes: 7 53.8%
  • Newcastle Knights 1-12

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Wests Tigers 1-12

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Wests Tigers 13+

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

WA Tiger

Bench
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My guess at the start of the season was that he'd be gone between rounds 8-12 or last the year. My rounds 8-12 prediction is looking pretty good....may even go round 6. If they continue to perform like they did against Newie, he'll be gone sooner than eight weeks.
Should have a ballot for when’s Madges last game .. because unlike previously, this year WT will be looking closely at a cut off point that will enable us to still get into the 8.. I pick after round 5.. and it will be as much about the manner of the losses of which I can see us breaking new ground..
 
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“The problem is he’s a $900k playmaker,” Rothfield said.

The problem is he's earning $xxx." There you go Phil, I fixed it for you, he is not a $900k playmeker

There is turmoil at the Tigers with big money halfback Luke Brooks reportedly unhappy at the club which slumped to 0-2 after an insipid display in a 26-4 loss to the Knights in Round 2.

Speaking on Sky Sports radio, Phil Rothfield questioned the logic in keeping an unhappy player at the club, who commands a large chunk of the Tigers’ salary cap and twice asked for a release in the off-season.

“Obviously you can’t blame one player for their performance, but he asked for a release not once, but twice, during the off-season,” Rothfield said on The Big Sports Breakfast.

“And it was about him not enjoying his football there. He was desperately keen to go to Newcastle and replace Mitchell Pearce in the halves before they signed Clune from St. George Illawarra.

“He’s just not happy there, and a couple of the senior boys there - I thought Tyrone Peachey was awful yesterday.

“He was undisciplined. If this side is going to get better this year, they’ve got to turn to their experienced players, and Brooks and Peachey just aren’t aiming up.”

Brooks had 21 run metres, 26 tackles with three misses, a penalty conceded and zero try, linebreak or assist involvements against the Knights and he looked frustrated and disinterested at times.

Laurie Daley believes the Tigers need to consider letting Brooks go, even if they have to chip in for him to play elsewhere if he is not happy at the club.

“That worries me if he’s not happy there,” Daley said.

“If that’s the case, you’ve got to make some changes. If he’s not happy, and he’s not out there. And the playing group, if they know that, and if you’re not getting performances that are up to scratch by Luke Brooks, you’re better off letting him go.

“You’re better off saying, ‘Listen, this is not working, if you’re not happy and we’re going to get performances like this.’ Because they need to do something differently.”

Rothfield pointed out that Brooks’ hefty contract could prove a stumbling block in letting him go, as will the matter of his replacement given Adam Doueihi is out injured until mid-season.

“The problem is he’s a $900k playmaker,” Rothfield said.

“So they let Luke Brooks go, OK. Now, this club has had a massive problem trying to bring new people in. And it’s something I don’t like saying about Madge, but he has had trouble bringing in good players that can lift them from where they currently are.

“So what do they do if they let [Luke Brooks go]? I guess they move Jackson Hastings to halfback?”

“Yeah, let him [Hastings] go to 7, and then you’ve got Doueihi coming back,” Daley replied.

“But he’ll be back mid-season. But I don’t know, if they’re going to keep Luke Brooks, and he’s not happy, I think it’s just a recipe for disaster.”

However, Rothfield believes potential suitors for Brooks’ services will be in short supply if he keeps playing the way he is at the moment.

“Luke Brooks isn’t doing himself any favours with the football he’s playing either,” Rothfield said.

“But he just doesn’t look like he’s desperate. He’s another one of these football players I wish we’d had the opportunity to see in a better football side, like Melbourne or Manly, or the Roosters - just to see how he does go with more class around him.

“But look, it wasn’t that long ago that he was Dally M halfback of the year. It was three years ago.”

Rothfield also questioned whether Michael Maguire deserves criticism for not having his players up for a fight in terms of their energy, especially at the start of the season.

“Whose fault is it when there’s no energy in the football side?” Rothfield asked.

“Does that come back to the coach and the way the team’s been prepared for the game? And I don’t want to bag Madge, because he’s a really good fella.
 

Trollhammaren

Juniors
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Usually we reach at least five or six rounds before losing all hope. We're there already.

f**k me, this team is just utterly heartless and inept. Across the board.

I feel for Madge as this is purely a 'players playing shite' issue, but he may as well go before he has a serious medical episode, as he won't turn this club around. FML.
 

Ned Kelly

Juniors
Messages
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Usually we reach at least five or six rounds before losing all hope. We're there already.

f**k me, this team is just utterly heartless and inept. Across the board.
I'm there already for next year. If Madge sees out his contract I am there already for the year after that as well.

There is no incentive for decent players to join us, There are plenty of good reasons for decent players to leave us,
 

Ned Kelly

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Madge has it under control. It was such a relief to hear him say
"Weather or not there were little areas we need to look at through the week we will definitely do that."

Sweet! Problem fixed !!
 

WA Tiger

Bench
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Should have a ballot for when’s Madges last game .. because unlike previously, this year WT will be looking closely at a cut off point that will enable us to still get into the 8.. I pick after round 5.. and it will be as much about the manner of the losses of which I can see us breaking new ground..
5 games to Madge getting dropped is prob generous..Now I’m thinking this week but ahh one more loss against the warriors then Boom!
 

WA Tiger

Bench
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The problem is he's earning $xxx." There you go Phil, I fixed it for you, he is not a $900k playmeker

There is turmoil at the Tigers with big money halfback Luke Brooks reportedly unhappy at the club which slumped to 0-2 after an insipid display in a 26-4 loss to the Knights in Round 2.

Speaking on Sky Sports radio, Phil Rothfield questioned the logic in keeping an unhappy player at the club, who commands a large chunk of the Tigers’ salary cap and twice asked for a release in the off-season.

“Obviously you can’t blame one player for their performance, but he asked for a release not once, but twice, during the off-season,” Rothfield said on The Big Sports Breakfast.

“And it was about him not enjoying his football there. He was desperately keen to go to Newcastle and replace Mitchell Pearce in the halves before they signed Clune from St. George Illawarra.

“He’s just not happy there, and a couple of the senior boys there - I thought Tyrone Peachey was awful yesterday.

“He was undisciplined. If this side is going to get better this year, they’ve got to turn to their experienced players, and Brooks and Peachey just aren’t aiming up.”

Brooks had 21 run metres, 26 tackles with three misses, a penalty conceded and zero try, linebreak or assist involvements against the Knights and he looked frustrated and disinterested at times.

Laurie Daley believes the Tigers need to consider letting Brooks go, even if they have to chip in for him to play elsewhere if he is not happy at the club.

“That worries me if he’s not happy there,” Daley said.

“If that’s the case, you’ve got to make some changes. If he’s not happy, and he’s not out there. And the playing group, if they know that, and if you’re not getting performances that are up to scratch by Luke Brooks, you’re better off letting him go.

“You’re better off saying, ‘Listen, this is not working, if you’re not happy and we’re going to get performances like this.’ Because they need to do something differently.”

Rothfield pointed out that Brooks’ hefty contract could prove a stumbling block in letting him go, as will the matter of his replacement given Adam Doueihi is out injured until mid-season.

“The problem is he’s a $900k playmaker,” Rothfield said.

“So they let Luke Brooks go, OK. Now, this club has had a massive problem trying to bring new people in. And it’s something I don’t like saying about Madge, but he has had trouble bringing in good players that can lift them from where they currently are.

“So what do they do if they let [Luke Brooks go]? I guess they move Jackson Hastings to halfback?”

“Yeah, let him [Hastings] go to 7, and then you’ve got Doueihi coming back,” Daley replied.

“But he’ll be back mid-season. But I don’t know, if they’re going to keep Luke Brooks, and he’s not happy, I think it’s just a recipe for disaster.”

However, Rothfield believes potential suitors for Brooks’ services will be in short supply if he keeps playing the way he is at the moment.

“Luke Brooks isn’t doing himself any favours with the football he’s playing either,” Rothfield said.

“But he just doesn’t look like he’s desperate. He’s another one of these football players I wish we’d had the opportunity to see in a better football side, like Melbourne or Manly, or the Roosters - just to see how he does go with more class around him.

“But look, it wasn’t that long ago that he was Dally M halfback of the year. It was three years ago.”

Rothfield also questioned whether Michael Maguire deserves criticism for not having his players up for a fight in terms of their energy, especially at the start of the season.

“Whose fault is it when there’s no energy in the football side?” Rothfield asked.

“Does that come back to the coach and the way the team’s been prepared for the game? And I don’t want to bag Madge, because he’s a really good fella.
Too late now.. saying that a lot lately
 

Maxxn99

Juniors
Messages
95
Nope he needs to go now!!
No point in him being there. I never thought a game’s performance could be on par with the last round of ‘21.
Time to bring in Gardner and Farah/ Kimmorley!
When asked about Hastings reported tackle ‘ that’s a rugba league tackle’ this guy is deluded!!!
He must be shown the door today!
 

Ned Kelly

Juniors
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From today's Herald

"Where to start with the Tigers? They were abysmal. It wasn’t quite as embarrassing as the beltings they received from the Storm and the Bulldogs at the end of last year but in some ways, given it’s only round two, it’s worse. They were careless with the ball, ill-disciplined, and downright lazy in defence. Jackson Hastings was the only player that could hold his head high, amassing 180 run metres and setting up the Tigers’ only try. Another performance like that will have the wolves at Michael Maguire’s door, again."

Well I don't know about wolves but I would be happy with Kristen Wolf coming through the front door ASAP
 

WA Tiger

Bench
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When asked about Hastings reported tackle ‘ that’s a rugba league tackle’ this guy is deluded!!!
He must be shown the door today!
I just saw that post match interview ..that was a really dumb tackle from Hastings and for a coach to say that speaks volumes

also Maumalo!!! Mr inspiration!!! you just want to “hang yourself” onto his every word and die - (for him? No just die!) The pmi is becoming a weekly highlight
 
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Tigerm

Coach
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I'm there already for next year. If Madge sees out his contract I am there already for the year after that as well.

There is no incentive for decent players to join us, There are plenty of good reasons for decent players to leave us,
But we have signed decent players, so not sure what your point is?
 

The Rosco

Bench
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Sharks weren’t missing their 5 best players with 2 nobody’s in the halves

edit: also to your other post I’m glad if other fans laugh at me I don’t take myself to serious and consider myself a pretty funny guy
Geez, sorry rhyno.
All this time I have been slamming you, I thought I was dealing with just another stupid Parra fan trying to forget the 35 year thing, plus all those wooden spoons.
I didn't know that you had serious delusion issues.
Again, I'm sorry.
Get some help bro, be strong.
 
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Madge & Hastings !
What was the story with the penalties from Hastings when he just took taps and ran himself?
No though about giving his forwards free metres etc? Surely Madge was on the blower to his sideline supports to ask what it was about and to say never again. But he did it again - that's Jason Taylor(ish) stuff.
 

Vozzy

Juniors
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There is not short term fix it which is the main issue because after 10 years the supporters don't want to wait another 3 years on top. I think Madge needs to go only because we have gotten worse. He has us lower than when Taylor was coaching. At the same time he took over when the club off the field was a basket case when it came to recruitment. The next coach who comes in will also need time because he is inheriting the same team.

I think we need a coach/new half combo. Brooks needs a change we need a change from Brooks but the game planning and preparation isn't translating to any improvement. I'm not confident on when our first win will be this year.

I don't have an answer. Sad thing is yesterdays result should be painful but I actually didn't feel anything so not sure if that's worse.
 

Ned Kelly

Juniors
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But we have signed decent players, so not sure what your point is?
Signed 2 decent players, losing 2 decent players. As Gus said about our current roster there is no overall improvement to our roster.
My point is I haven't seen an overall improvement to our roster for years and I don't believe I will while Madge is our head coach.
I would love to be proved wrong.
 

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