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Match Discussion: Round 21 vs Brisbane @ Sunshine Coast Stadium

Who will win? Round 21: Newcastle v Brisbane

  • Newcastle Knights 13+

    Votes: 3 100.0%
  • Newcastle Knights 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brisbane Broncos 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brisbane Broncos 13+

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .

Yosh

Coach
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Very happy with Pearce running. Our forwards have been slowing winning the ruck and it's showing.

The ball back on the inside for Fitzy looks like it might pay dividends later in the game.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,693
Waiting for Kalyn to put his mark on this game tbh. Brisbane have covered him well - but this is the same thing that happens to him against good teams too. He needs to learn how to rise above it and find a way to impose himself regardless.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,693
We could have done better that half, but we've kept our composure and kept at it. If we continue to keep at it, we should get the chocolates. Brisbane aren't playing like a bottom 2 team here either, though. They've got their tails up and I think they'll keep coming at us, even if they lack polish.
 

Knight Tales

Bench
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Pearce is slowly but surely wearing them down. We should have expected this from Broncs. They are a good young team with bravado left and that is all in 2021.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,693
We're missing Brails out of dummy half, too. Agree with people earlier that his service goes to the right place, but it's a tad slower than we're used to, and it matters.
 

aqua_duck

Coach
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Who is coaching the attack because it's abysmal, over 30 tackles inside the Broncos red zone and the best we could come up with was 2 individual efforts that were due to really poor goal line defence more than anything else.
Ennis made a really good point that when we attack try a play, doesn't work then we kind of reset and get to a spot again, there's no continuity. It's abit like a boxer that throws one haymakers at a time then has to reset before throwing another haymaker whereas the good teams throw combination after combination
 

Loose Cannon

Bench
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Two tries from first receiver stepping 10 out. I’ll take it, but damn it, a backline movement would be nice once in a while.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,693
Who is coaching the attack because it's abysmal, over 30 tackles inside the Broncos red zone and the best we could come up with was 2 individual efforts that were due to really poor goal line defence more than anything else.
Ennis made a really good point that when we attack try a play, doesn't work then we kind of reset and get to a spot again, there's no continuity. It's abit like a boxer that throws one haymakers at a time then has to reset before throwing another haymaker whereas the good teams throw combination after combination
I mean, we've all been saying this all year. I still don't know what we do at training.
 

K-Man

Bench
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It's only 40 minutes, but to me it's another typical example of watching a team that could in theory be so much better if they looked expertly coached. The things we are good at, and dominant in, are things you could consider to be individual personnel related - forwards making decent yards up the middle, halves having a run and mixing up the kicking game, Ponga being outstanding at making decisions if given the space and numbers.

But the things we're not good at, and which cost us, are the thing you would expect to see in a smart, strategic, well-drilled football team when it comes structure and decision making under pressure. We've essentially dominated the game, but our plan and performance inside the opposition 20m is our biggest weakness. I expect more. And there are no real excuses, because any coach would kill to have Ponga as both a creator/weapon in his own right and the best decoy in the game. I don't think we do enough to make Ponga's job easy. All the stuff he's doing, if he had just that little bit more time and space to do it, he would be virtually unstoppable.
 

Jono078

Referee
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Who is coaching the attack because it's abysmal, over 30 tackles inside the Broncos red zone and the best we could come up with was 2 individual efforts that were due to really poor goal line defence more than anything else.
Ennis made a really good point that when we attack try a play, doesn't work then we kind of reset and get to a spot again, there's no continuity. It's abit like a boxer that throws one haymakers at a time then has to reset before throwing another haymaker whereas the good teams throw combination after combination
It's exactly that!

Try a spread, doesn't work so do a one out and set-up a spread again.

It might actually be good if we just looked at the defensive line, drew them in a bit then spread. Right now we just spread because that's fun to do at training? I dunno.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,693
I actually think we look better when we're moving forward up the field into a try scoring position off the back of our forwards than we do trying to attack right at the line. We don't seem to have enough set plays, or "shapes" in the modern parlance, to really put a full set together in the attacking 20.

When we do move the ball, and we've moved it reasonably well tonight as far as getting it across the field, the problem is we telegraph exactly where it's going ahead of time. No-one off the ball ever looks like they're actually a threat of getting the ball. Our decoys and line runners kinda suck ass.
 

Alex28

Coach
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It's only 40 minutes, but to me it's another typical example of watching a team that could in theory be so much better if they looked expertly coached.
It looks like a team whose key players literally never play together. Coaching can’t fix injuries.
 

Jono078

Referee
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21,201
So check this out..

The Broncos have had 28% possession and only completed 10/17 (59%) sets.

Storm would be up 36-0 with those number. Us? A fortuitous 12-8.

Doesn't bode well for us if the Broncos are able to get their share of possession in the second. But I do expect us to be much better.
 

Jono078

Referee
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It looks like a team whose key players literally never play together. Coaching can’t fix injuries.
Have you watched the Storm and Roosters this year?

They've missed key spine players all year. Coaching can absolutely fix our issues.
 

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