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Matthew Johns sex scandal in 2002

Buckshot

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AFL players are animals being protected by the media


What the hell does AFL have to do with any of this ?

Who cares what happens with AFL.

This is about negative headlines generated by half wit Players/ex players reflecting poorly on rugby league .
 

Buckshot

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Why would he plead for players to clean up their act again? He's done it twice. Yes, it does matter that it happened 7 years ago. Dismissing that dismisses your whole point - he only made those pleads because of recent events. This isn't a recent event. Hell, it isn't even an event - he was cleared.


It may not be a recent event but the sh*te is hitting the fan now.

How can Vautin plead for players to behave themselves for the sake of the game and not come out and be critical of the actions of Johns ? Aren't Johns' actions reflecting poorly on the game ?

You may not think it's an ''event'' but there are plenty of people who do and once again the game is facing negative headlines once again potraying the game ,it's players and supporters as condonoing this crap.
 

El Diablo

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What the hell does AFL have to do with any of this ?

Who cares what happens with AFL.

This is about negative headlines generated by half wit Players/ex players reflecting poorly on rugby league .

and the behaviour of AFL neanderthals is 10 times worse yet largely goes unreported. even recent indescretions are ignored
 

Apey

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It may not be a recent event but the sh*te is hitting the fan now.

How can Vautin plead for players to behave themselves for the sake of the game and not come out and be critical of the actions of Johns ? Aren't Johns' actions reflecting poorly on the game ?

You may not think it's an ''event'' but there are plenty of people who do and once again the game is facing negative headlines once again potraying the game ,it's players and supporters as condonoing this crap.

Because telling Matthew Johns to behave himself now is completely redundant and pointless. The event in question happened 7 years ago. What has he actually done recently to warrant Vautin be critical of him? Is Vautin going to go and hassle every other player that has stuffed up in the past? What's he going to say? "Clean up your act mate"? He's been clean for the past 7 years and longer if you believe him not being charged means he was innocent.

I'm sure the whole thing is reflecting poorly on the game.. thanks to the media. No, the media didn't 'harm' that girl (Nor did Johns apparently) - but its only come back up because of them/her randomly complaining. But you keep treating it the same as an event that happened just the other day. It's dead and buried, well, it should be. Nothing came of it and nothing ever will come of it.

He is not bringing a bad image to the game. It would have looked bad when it actually happened. Now, it's just more bullsh*t from the media.
 
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aqua_duck

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch/2397228/Sex-consensual-Johns

From the Christchurch Press


The Christchurch woman at the centre of the Cronulla Sharks sex scandal identified Australian rugby league star Matthew Johns at the time. Johns went public on Australian television this week over his involvement in the 2002 incident.
The Press broke the story of alleged serious sexual misconduct by members of the Sharks team during their pre-season stay in Christchurch.
The woman, then 19 and a staff member of the Racecourse Hotel in Riccarton, claimed she had been sexually violated by a number of players on the night of Friday, February 15. The players were staying at the hotel.
After an investigation on both sides of the Tasman, Christchurch police said they would not lay charges against any Sharks player.
The Press interviewed the woman after that announcement.
Of the players with whom she had sex, the woman said: "It was with two of them. I wasn't friends with them, but I was friendly with them the night before."
Were they quite well-known? "Yup. Matthew Johns is quite well-known." Was he one of the two players? "Yes."
On legal advice, The Press did not publish any of the interview at the time. The woman attempted to get a copy of her witness statement from the police but she said she was refused when she revealed that it was to be given to The Press.
The paper understands she also talked to police about Johns' involvement.
Johns broke his silence this week after being approached by ABC television. A Four Corners programme, to be aired in Australia on Monday night, will explore the issue of footballers behaving badly after the sexual-assault charge against Manly league star Brett Stewart.
Four Corners interviewed the Christchurch woman recently, with her identity blacked out and her voice altered.
She says she has suffered psychologically as a result of the incident, which she described as degrading.
"There were lots of guys watching and two or three doing stuff to me," she says on the programme.
"I only remember one player definitely; it was Matthew Johns. He laughed and he joked and was very loud and boisterous."
The programme contacted Johns for his response on Monday morning, the night after he had been celebrating the Logie award triumph of The Footy Show.
Johns, who is employed by Channel Nine as a rugby league expert and is the frontman for the NRL's membership drive, revealed his involvement on Thursday night.
"I am very sorry for all the trauma and embarrassment this has caused for everyone, but particularly for my family," he said.
Johns said he had consensual sex with the woman and he was upset, particularly for his children, that the woman was making the claims again.
"It took us a long time to get through it and it pains me that they have to go through it again," he said.

"Police investigated the situation, the allegations, and there were no charges laid. This has been a cause of major embarrassment for a lot of people."
In her interview with The Press, the woman said she talked to some of the players when she was a waitress-kitchen hand at the Racecourse Hotel.
She bumped into the players at the Holy Grail in central Christchurch on the Thursday night (the night before the incident) and had drinks with them. They wanted her to go back to the hotel with her that night, "but I didn't because I've got a boyfriend and I'm not dirty".
On the Friday two players waited for her to finish work.
"I kind of wanted to leave, but they said come back to our room for a talk or whatever. I walked behind them because I kind of didn't want to go back. But I didn't think anything bad would happen," she said.
"They, like, left the sliding door unlocked or open, with the curtain pulled and the bathroom window open and stuff, so the whole team came back and knew about it. They knew what was happening.
"They sidled in and crawled along the floor where I couldn't see them and all came in, and climbed in through the windows and stuff, and next thing I knew everyone was in there.
"They are saying, `We didn't let it happen and it wasn't planned'. It was so planned."
The woman said the incident lasted a couple of hours and there were other girls in other rooms, but she believed them to be prostitutes.
"I'm quite young [19]. When I went in there I was wearing a blue T-shirt and black three-quarter pants. I wasn't all s**tted up in, like, tights or whatever," she said.
"Matthew's married. They were the players, they started it off and they did lots of the main stuff, but then there were four other guys, five other guys ... who did heaps of gross other stuff and they're just as bad as those two.
"Other people were just standing around with no clothes on; so many people were just standing there with their pants off, with no clothes on, just watching like it was a show. Just getting off on the other guys.
"I was just stunned and shocked. I didn't help them do anything."
The woman said she had been told by police that the Sharks players were arguing it was consensual.
"If it was consented, they did nothing wrong. It was morally wrong, but not criminally wrong if I consented.
"It's all of them saying it was consented, against me," she said.
Detective Senior Sergeant Dave Long said there was no reason to reopen the file.
"A very thorough investigation was done at the time.
"All witnesses and people involved in the matter were spoken to and there is no evidence established in relation to the complaints that would support the matter being put before the court," he said.
"For whatever reason, there is some media interest now in Australia and there was at the time but nothing has changed at all and there is no reason to reinvestigate anything because it was all dealt with in 2002."
I'm sorry but that version of events sounds like a movie script, the woman doesn't want to accept any responsibility
 

gregstar

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she's unlucky it was a league team in the hotel.

she'd have been safe had the AFL sides rocked up.

barry cuzzy bro the chef however.....
 
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Does beating off to your five-eighth going at it, really excite many of you...???

Surely this behaviour is not overly normal...Each their own, I guess..

This one has become public...Wouldn't it have been happening every weekend though...??

Its not within my definition of "normal".

I'm sure hearing the girl's version of events will be interesting to Mrs Johns. I'd be betting its a lot different to what Matthew told her. :lol:
 

butchmcdick

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and the behaviour of AFL neanderthals is 10 times worse yet largely goes unreported. even recent indescretions are ignored


It doesn't matter what AFL players do. What happend in the motel room in NZ had nothing to do with any AFL players. This is purely to do with the actions of NRL players. Media bias had nothing to do with Johns and co and their actions either.
 

butchmcdick

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I'm sorry but that version of events sounds like a movie script, the woman doesn't want to accept any responsibility

SO what should she have done then ? It seems like the players involved tipped the rest of the team off to what was happening and they snuck into the room. How is that her fault ?
 

El Diablo

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It doesn't matter what AFL players do. What happend in the motel room in NZ had nothing to do with any AFL players. This is purely to do with the actions of NRL players. Media bias had nothing to do with Johns and co and their actions either.

nothing illegal happened

the Police investigated and didn't lay any charhes

are you a bit slow?
 
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the version Police didn't believe

Just because they didn't press charges doesnt mean they didn't believe her. Just that they didn't think there was enough evidence to prosecute successfully, ie one drunk woman vs x footballers all supporting each other's versions of events.
 

El Diablo

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Just because they didn't press charges doesnt mean they didn't believe her. Just that they didn't think there was enough evidence to prosecute successfully, ie one drunk woman vs x footballers all supporting each other's versions of events.

i saw the news last night and the NZ Police said they were adamant the Sharks players story was true

so what does that make the girls story?
 

butchmcdick

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nothing illegal happened

the Police investigated and didn't lay any charhes

are you a bit slow?

The only slow one here is you pal. First you blame the AFL and crap on and on about how they are worse than NRL players. FFS both codes have there fair share of dickheads.

Then you refuse to watch the program and yet are quick to label the girl involved a liar and keep quoting the police not laying charges. That doesn't mean nothing happened just that there wasn't enough evidence for a conviction.

Then you attack the program itself and try to tie it to some giant AFL conspiricy when there is no evidence of the sort that the ABC nor Four Corners have done any deal with the AFL.

Perhaps (and this may come as a shock to you) the players are in the sh*t becasue of their actions.
 

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