McFadden

[sup42]

Sounds like Mogg was already working with us anyway. Now it's just more full time hands on than before.

Smart move, less disruption.

Agreed.

In some ways it's a no brainer, they have a working relationship, McFadden has insured himself with assistants who in the Short term aren't hunting his Job ( Unlike Tony Iro ) to be fair they should have aspirations in the longer term.

Mogs has been the video analysis man....and that performance last night reflected it ( he's in charge of the attack now) , there were lots of tactically smart uses of Tomkins and Johnson....attempts to link Matulino and Townsend....with partial success.

I've read comparisons to the Brisbane trial and that's fair enough too, key difference for me is the plays were run with a bit more pressure from Canberra than that trial game.....and even though they were poor.....the offensive defending Ricky Henry is achieving sets those two games apart.

McFadden has done well to knock off a lot of the Warriors inconsistencies.

Four games in a row under McFadden.....four eighty minute efforts.

Putting pressure on players through the KPI thing is separating the Chaff from the wheat.....Hurrells bounced back.....Danes dropping off ( Injured though this week ) the introduction of young talent is being well supported too.

I thought is was a mature decision to pick Locke to rest Havili. Lockes role was to make few errors and limit miss tackles....he was never going to be a revolutionary Hooking discovery......he could have tried to be......which would have been selfish and probably would have seen Locke exposed.

 

[Rich102]

Good points Sup.
Welcome along.

 

[hitro]

Warriors please resign McFadden now before someone else does.
No Tim Sheens

 

[sup42]

Good points Sup.
Welcome along.

Thanks a lot Rich. Looking forward to picking up some real oil rugby league ideas.

 

[Diesel]

Warriors please resign McFadden now before someone else does.
No Tim Sheens

You'd have to think that Hoffman would have a fair idea who is in-charge next year.

As Sup42 has pointed out, since Cappy has taken over it's been four 80 minute displays from the team. It's still early days but the team looks mentally stronger than I have seen for a long time, definitely looking the best since 2011.

 

[JoeD]

Sup Sup,

Welcome, have enjoyed your first few posts.

On McFadden-

We won a game we were supposed to win!

Played consistently 4 weeks in a row.

Attempted to use Manu as a true wing.

 

[sup42]

Sup Sup,

Welcome, have enjoyed your first few posts.

On McFadden-

We won a game we were supposed to win!

Played consistently 4 weeks in a row.

Attempted to use Manu as a true wing.

Cheers JoeD.

That last thing you said about Manu being used as a true wing is going to be really interesting and it will place a lot attention on Manu.

It is critical we have a Left Winger who can polish off the new impetus for conventional ball movement.

In the past we have relied heavily on people making breaks / tackle busts or offloads close in. More often than Not Manu would be used to clean out any defenders left over in secound phase moves.

This is different for us. Using the width of the park.....going to both edges early for the overlap or one on one play between Center and wing.

Sam Tomkins has made that possible, he shifts like no one else to have played in a Warriors Jumper ever. Johnson is altering his game to throw cut outs from set plays to edge players.....early ball to wingers.

Wigan had Charnley leading the ESL in try scoring off Tomkins creating room.....we're about to find out if Manu is the winger to complete those moves.

 

[JoeD]

I think he will be. Just an off night for Manu and he still scored 2.
Agree about Tomkins role in the shift. Also when was the last time we scored from a Scrum set move?

 

[vvvrulz]

Manu had his dropsies but they're all part of being Manu.

When he does do it he comes storming home, those were some epic dashes he had at the line after he fluffed the ball.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The first one he dropped wasn't really a case of dropsies or bad hands, the pass was just too far in front of him and he only got a fingertip to it. As someone else mentioned Manu probably simply isn't expecting that kind of quick ball as he's hardly been fed it in the past, and was consequently half a metre back from where he need to be. If they keep going in that direction I'm sure he'll be standing flatter in future.
The second one, yeah he just flat out dropped that.

 

[sup42]

Manu is going to get more early ball off clean passes than he has ever seen in his career.

That is a given, it's how Tomkins has played his whole career.

It is also why the coaches dropped Nielson , because he was an impediment to the Tomkins / Johnson edge play.

Promisingly Manu caught the two man cut out pass from Tomkins.

If you go back and Look at the two games we lost under McFadden....several Left edge Try's were bombed by Nielson mainly. Those were close games, the other thing I would say about Tomkins is that he keeps coming at you. It matters not whether sides are anticipating it....he's one of those players who can use a conventional play over and over until it works....unlike a typical Warrior play maker who will go away from trying something if it doesn't come off the first couple of goes.

In last years Grand Final Wigan were down 16 Nil.....Tomkins had tried to put Goulding away three times in a row , Goulding's timing was out......the move that turned the momentum in that final was a fourth attempt by Tomkins to play to Gouldings edge with a play that Warrington knew was coming....the exact same move as the last three.

Goulding scores........as did Manu on the secound probe by Tomkins using a two man cut out ball at speed straight to Manu , despite Tomkins having floated that pass too far in front of Manu earlier.....he had the self belief to pop that speed ball to Manu late in the game.

Amazing thinker. Relentless application. We've seen him for us, first thing people picked up on is he is every where. Now he is working out people like Hurrell and Vatuvie they will have to be on their game. How many tip ons for Tomkins is that now ? Four ? he just keeps coming with the same killer strike at teams.

Manu will not be able to afford to have nights of the droppsies Sam's going to keep going at that edge and Manu is going to be his main target in the absence of a specialist left center....it will be high speed accurate ball or 'Ben Henry's pass of the day' off a Tomkins draw and flick on to Benry.

 

[tangalife]

Its good to see sup42 here, I've seen him on the other warriors forum. Knows his stuff

 

[vvvrulz]

Manu is going to get more early ball off clean passes than he has ever seen in his career.

:lol: Very true, after all those games with Nielson he was suddenly shell-shocked by getting some *actual ball*

 

[sup42]

:lol: Very true, after all those games with Nielson he was suddenly shell-shocked by getting some *actual ball*

It's been a while hasn't it ? Even in the world cup where Manu hit best form ( especially defensively in that tournament ) I sort of felt frustrated for Manu that the Kiwis left three quarter line was the 'weak' side....mean time RTS is getting raves with service from Williams and Whare, geepers pretty much our best three quarter line attacking combination in more than a decade.
In Manu's favor is that when Try's are in the offing his hands are actually ok normally...sometimes his positioning lets him down / overrunning the ball. As you say a night of the dropsies.

 

[sup42]

Its good to see sup42 here, I've seen him on the other warriors forum. Knows his stuff

Thanks a lot. I've been getting the good oil from folks like your good self over here reading for years ( steal from the best they say ).
It's nice to get some feedback on ideas ( when people reply to posts as opposed to just being a lurker lol ) keeps you learning , especially when people challenge your thinking

 

[JoeD]

Another box for cappy to tick - winning ugly in Australia.

 

[sup42]

True.
McFaddens defensive average remains at 16 points a game , four points behind the competition leaders and top four material once this attack finds it's feet.

Nothing wrong with the effort tonight , the offensive defence continues.

We should anticipate that when the other team has that much ball we're going to have to hang tough and think our way through the game.

McFadden must be one hell of a half time voice in the dressing sheds , Johnson has come out in the second half with a clear plan to gain the ascendency under McFadden.

The Warriors looked desperate out there, they showed a lot of resilience when things were going against them , no one lost the plot.

McFaddens also getting a lot out of his Junior players , the way he has protected Havili and Fusitua is very professional and well considered.

50 % winning record restored for McFadden , that's enough to keep the Warriors in range this year.

I'm liking the way we keep the opposition in range and then pressure them full out in the late rounds of the fight.

 

[JJ]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...e-bennett-back-to-dragons-20140526-zro49.html

Interesting, in amongst all that there's talk that the Warriors might be in the hunt for Bennett...

 

[SilentOne]

no thanks.

I'd rather stick with Cappy, Bennett is done.

 

[reykaine]

I doubt that Bennett would ever contemplate moving to NZ, primarily for family reasons.