philstorm said:
Should they butt out of management? No. Should they butt out of contract disputes? Yes.
But they register the contracts. so how can they butt out of any disputes?
It was OK for the Storm to want the NRL involved when they thought the contract hadn't been lodged in time.
You can't have it both ways.
Moreover, Turner this week has approached the NRL, apparently to seek a solution. Do the NRL tell Turner to bugger off? I mean according to you, they should butt out of this dispute.
You're putting forward an odd argument Philly.
philstorm said:
Not really, I dont know how you seem to be getting that impression seeing how you appear to be taking any arguement from Storm supporters to be either 'desperate' or a 'plea for sympathy'.
Any..as in I've got it in for Storm supporters? LOL.
I think you'll find that's an exaggeration. But hey, I'm sure someone will take that to heart too.
Some Storm supporters are being rational about it, but others are carrying on like pork chops, like this wouldn't happen to any other club - and that the NRL are being
really really unfair to the poor Storm, and dragging poor Steve Turner away from his homeland, his love, and his passion. A human tragedy. LOL. The stuff of soapies. Surely I jest? Unfortunately, that what some people think. Takes all kinds I guess.
There's a number of posts where Storm supporters are playing the victim. The Storm website was also playing it up... with all those heart-tugging Herald headlines. An official website that looked more like tabloid gossip mag. Do you want to revisit all that?
Or do think no one on the Storm side are playing the victim card?
philstorm said:
No, I dont think they should side with the Storm. I agree morally that they should side with the Titans, but I think that, if this matter goes to court, that should be the be all and end all.
It hasn't gone to court yet. They can't can't butt out of something which hasn't happened. And besides, they'll be part of any court proceedings.. despite what you say.
All the NRL can do is talk on behalf of the competition which they control. If they say they will not register the Turner/Storm contract, then Turner and the Storm (my presumption) will have to sue the NRL. Do the NRL keep butting out... even when they are being taken to court themselves?
In any case, in the majority of disputes, they are sorted out prior to it going to court. Presumably this is the hope and aim of all parties in this matter. People try to avoid court as they are long and expensive affairs.
Your argument is that the NRL should butt out and leave the Titans the Storm to duke it out. If that happened, then it would almost certainly go to court and the NRL would cop flak for not intervening.
But you're also saying that the NRL are right in siding with Titans. But you think they should butt out at the same time... and misrepresenting the words. 'governing body' along the way. You seem to be contradicting yourself, and quite frankly, I have no idea what you base your argument on.
philstorm said:
As I said, you cant really argue that morally (and probably technically too), the Titans are in the right. But if this matter goes to court, the NRL cant very well go against the verdict of a law court. I think they are setting themselves up for a nasty precedent if this matter goes to court, the Storm somehow win - yet the NRL decide to get involved and not heed the verdict of the court?
If it went to court, the Storm wouldn't win. so its a moot point. With respect, your argument seems to be slipping into hypotheticals and guesswork. But OK, we'll entertain the notion.
Are you asking me if the NRL are law abiding? The NRL have to obey the law like any organisation, but they can also appeal the decision. That's their right within the law.
It could drag on for a long time with Turner's future remaining in limbo, and all negotiations outside of those legal boundaries being suspended.
Talking about nasty precedents (real, not imagine), the main concern is that a player thinks he can walk away from a legally binding contract.
philstorm said:
They side with whoever wins in court. ;-)
I would be surprised if it got to court.