I had missed this post earlier....
I'd very much like to see one.
Unfortunately it's impossible to conduct a proper one here.
I've seen emails that have been sent to the NRL, the response (usually from John Brady) is pretty dismissive.
The club has made various approaches to the NRL to fix this. To date, it hasn't gone to the next level. It is my view that the club should do more, but these things usually require someone with the time and energy to be instrumental in bringing it all together. We had one such football club director some years ago, he listened to everyone and made things happen. But tragically he passed away well before his time.
So there has been some attempt to change the record books at an official level then. You're pretty adamant that it should be done, so what exactly is your strongest argument to support the claim that StGI has officially won 16 premierships?
Look, I think when the traditions of the game start to erode, we all lose something.
Many traditions have gone or changed and yes there has been some erosion if you want to look at it that way, but there have been some improvements to the game as well.
I was brought up on the Sydney comp and respect the clubs that formed the backbone to the greatest game in Australia - and in the world.
When Souths won their battle and starting competing again, I thought it was a victory for tradition. When 'the Sydney Bulldogs' changed back to being called Canterbury Bankstown, I thought it was great. In fact, I never stopped calling them Canterbury. Same with Manly, Menzies is always a one club player to me. The list goes on.
When Canterbury play Saints, do we think the clubs have only been playing each other over the last decade? The same with Souths. How can you explain the passion and rivalry that is so deeply ingrained in the opposing supporter bases?
The great Sydney clubs of the NSWRL may be playing in a different national competition, but to me they are still the first grade, and I congratulate the NRL on maintaining the continuation of that history. But that's where their flexibility seems to end. It seems they have a dilemna with "what to do with St George". They've gone for the easy option while other competitions have been more flexible.
Emotional claptrap... the dilemma of what to do with StGI was decided in 2005 when the Tigers won their maiden premiership. You want that part now changed to suit yourself.
As for these silly discussions. Well I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard and read that we have been 'chokers since 1979'. Now that that's in the dustbin, we are expected to accept to some new tripe about it being premiership #1.
It's hardly new and it's hardly tripe. You're in the same situation as the Tigers of 2005. That was settled easily and with little fuss. The fuss now is only caused by a ridiculous demand that Dragons supporters want official record to show something that is simple not logical.... bleat on as much as you want about not caring what anyone else thinks.. if this were true you wouldn't be suggesting that the official records change to suit your whim... and this thread wouldn't be approaching 2000 posts....
The point is, this type of sledging doesn't spring up overnight. It was born out of the old tribal rivalry of the Sydney comp. For some of us, it is in our blood. For some others, it was handed down from our parents. Quite frankly, I'm pleased to see that it is still alive and well. And tradition - in a strange way - is still being observed and respected. If only the sore losers could admit to it.
It's nice to see StGI supporters get to call others sore losers, especially after the 1999 GF... many years after 1999.... but it's also good to be a part of the sledging because as you say the rivalry hasn't sprung up overnight, and it will continue on for many years to come...
but nothing to date warrants the StGI team to officially be recognised as having won 16 premierships......
oh... and see how upset I am..?? I must be so riled up... keyboard melting... steam from the ears... blah blah....
For once could you address the question, why should the official records show that the St. George Illawarra team has won 16 premierships? and how couldit be justified? Please don't use geneology or BHP to demonstrate why.....