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Mitch Moses

Chipmunk

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I don't think we would have made the Top 8 without Moses, but I also don't think we would've made the Top 8 if we'd continued to play Brown for only half a game and if all our other Muppets in the middle had to play 40 mins each.
 

Gronk

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Mitch Moses is swimming with the tide at Eels after a fresh start

The Wests Tigers always felt Mitchell Moses strutted around Concord with a sense of entitlement.

Perhaps it was the result of hearing constant references to being "a superstar in the making" since the age of 16.

But at Parramatta, he isn't owed a thing. In fact, it is he who owes them for taking a punt on a player many thought might never live up to the hype.

There were plenty who questioned Parramatta's pursuit of Moses, wondering why Brad Arthur would fork out in excess of $700,000 a season on a player shown the door by the Tigers.

But those doubting Arthur's vision have been wiping egg off their face for the past few months as Moses put together the most influential half-season of football in blue and gold since Jarryd Hayne shined for the team in 2009.

So how does a player who produced just two try assists in 10 games for the Wests Tigers this year then lay on 14 tries and 14 line-break assists in the following 13 weeks wearing another jersey?

"The Tigers were the ones that took his contract off the table," his housemate and former Tigers teammate James Tedesco said. "If the club is doing that, it became obvious they didn't really want him here."

"From that point, as a player, that would affect you mentally and that's why he wanted the change. You could see that he just wasn't himself any more.
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On top: Mitch Moses has flourished since a mid-season switch to Parramatta. Photo: NRL Imagery
"You can tell he was just a bit frustrated. The way the whole situation panned out for him was disappointing. He's said the fresh start over there was what he needed and he couldn't be happier."

Tigers fans criticised Moses for this perception he stopped trying in his final weeks at the club.

But interestingly, he touched the ball more and ran for more metres this season at the Tigers than he has at Parramatta.

Sometimes less is more, right?

In the past, Moses has been guilty of trying to overplay his hand. In his first three weeks at the Eels, probably with the intention of trying to prove himself, the Parramatta halfback touched the ball an average of 45 times per game.

Compare that to his last three weeks of football, where, despite only handling the ball an average of 29 times per game, Moses has still managed to produce four try-assists and six linebreak-assists.

Arthur is a big believer in making sure his players stick to the game plan. The right play, not the big play. On the surface, that seemed like a recipe for disaster given Moses' track record of thriving when playing off the cuff.

He was never satisfied with the game plan imposed by Jason Taylor at the Tigers, constantly seeking approval to throw off the shackles.

Interestingly, Arthur is a stickler for structure. Yet Moses has flourished and finally found some consistency in his game. Maybe Taylor was on to something after all? But the constant undermining and lack of respect for Taylor shown by some must have filtered its way down.

Perhaps that sense of entitlement played a part. But there is little doubt Moses' attitude has shifted dramatically since arriving to play under Arthur.

Parramatta officials noticed how wary Moses was when he first arrived to play at the club. He was scarred by everything that had happened at the Tigers.

If they aren't already, perhaps the Tigers will one day regret the decision to pull his contract off the table. But had Mitchell Moses been playing this sort of football, he might have been the member of the big four they wanted to keep most.

"Me and Brooksy both said, 'Do whatever makes you happy'," Tedesco recalled of the turbulent period in which contract negotiations at the Tigers dominated the headlines.

"We knew we weren't going to be as good as a team without him, but that would have been pretty selfish of us to ask him to stay for our benefit. He had to do what would benefit him as a player and a person, so we supported him 100 per cent. We said to him, if you're not happy here and you think you'll be happier over there then go."

Earlier in the year, when it looked increasingly likely the Tigers would be fighting to avoid the spoon than competing for a top eight berth, Tedesco, Brooks and Moses organised a trip to Melbourne with a punters club in September.

Clearly, Moses won't be attending now.

"Who knows, the way Parra are going they can make the grand final," Tedesco said. "That would be a great success story from what happened at the start of the year to take them to a grand final."

And if they do, they'll be talking about Moses in the same light as Hayne, the man he cheered on from the stands as a Parramatta-adoring teenager all those years ago.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...eels-after-a-fresh-start-20170829-gy6dux.html
 

Kornstar

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I gotta say. I am so glad this kid was THE problem at the Tigers. He is now OUR problem and what a problem he has turned out to be.

I'm sure he is happy that he is playing in his first finals series and not about to celebrate mad Monday.

I wonder the stat of the amount of players who have changed teams mid season and go onto to the finals at crucial positions?
 

Bazal

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I actually thought that Moses's defence has been more than adequate of late and would not say that he is any more a liability than any other half. Amirite ?

Check out the thread in the NRL forum. Tigers fans saying that Moses cost us the game because of a missed tackle on Munster in the lead up to a try....because no other Eels missed tackles that in the lead up to a try, of course. They really are bitter, bitter merkins.

I'm happy to say Moses has, so far, proven me wrong
 

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Check out the thread in the NRL forum. Tigers fans saying that Moses cost us the game because of a missed tackle on Munster in the lead up to a try....because no other Eels missed tackles that in the lead up to a try, of course. They really are bitter, bitter merkins.

I'm happy to say Moses has, so far, proven me wrong
Worse still, wander in to the Tigers forum and check out what is said about him in there!

Tedesco and Woods seems to have been absolved.... Moses is the one copping all of the vitriol - I don't quite understand it tbh. It was Cleary who pulled the offer saying that the funds originally set aside could be better utilised to entice Tedesco or Woods to stay. And those merkins were all talk about how they needed to know there would be a good coach in charge at the Tigers before they would commit - in comes Cleary and they still did a runner. Cleary allegedly made the whole "you're either on the bus or off it" spech - Moses pressed the button and said "Let me off here please driver" but Cleary wouldn't open the doors....

Tigers fans I think are most pissed at the perception that Moses didn't put in for the Tigers in his last few games there.... Admittedly he was pretty dire for them V us on Easter Monday and I was more than a little worried about what we were getting ourselves in to. He has been much better than I anticipated without doubt...
 

ash411

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They need to believe that he's a dud player and will never amount to anything, it's the only way they can reconcile him leaving the club for greener pastures.

Some of the nonsense they go on with is downright delusional..
 

Gronk

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Check out the thread in the NRL forum. Tigers fans saying that Moses cost us the game because of a missed tackle on Munster in the lead up to a try....because no other Eels missed tackles that in the lead up to a try, of course. They really are bitter, bitter merkins.

I'm happy to say Moses has, so far, proven me wrong

Imagine fans bitching about a player long after he left them ! I mean get over it !
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T.S Quint

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Check out the thread in the NRL forum. Tigers fans saying that Moses cost us the game because of a missed tackle on Munster in the lead up to a try....because no other Eels missed tackles that in the lead up to a try, of course. They really are bitter, bitter merkins.

I'm happy to say Moses has, so far, proven me wrong

Pretty shoddy defence all round on that try.
Should have been shut down well before Munster even got the ball.
 

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