Mitch Pierce

[Monk]

also. Pearce in Defence > Daylight > Jamie Coward in Defence

ever notice soward is always hanging behind the defensive line?

 

[dragon_around]

Yeah I'd much rather see him in every tackle and have player after player running at him the whole game knowing Soward will be willing to put his body on the line.... :roll:

Soward is a half, not a forward. The reason Beau Scott is in the side is to guard Soward. And that's why Soward is able to run 80 metres and score against tired opposition like he did against your pack.

Why should he be in the defensive line?

 

[condochook]

wayne bennett is a liar,a double crosser and he is not a man of his word

 

[maestro1]

Our current team was always going to fall apart when an in-form and finals-bound team re-took the lead. A couple of dodgy calls didn't help our cause. We don't have the head space to deal with those things yet. Gee, you'd think Willie could do something there? The fact that we blew chances didn't help our spirits either.

Experience, skill and confidence were the major differences between the two sides last night.

And Gaba, the jury is still out on Pierce IMO. Obviously Soward destroyed Pierce. However at the same stage [as Mitchel] of his career, Jamie had a 50/50 split amongst supporters and critics. We all knew he had talent but the fact that the opposition forwards ran over him at will and just like Mitchel, some panic decisions (his rushed field goal attempts early in the tackle count against Wenty that perhaps cost his team a GF, comes to mind) raised question marks about his ability.

Time on the field, a great team, great coach - look at him now.

For us, I hope we persist with what we have, Pierce included and show some patience in stead of going for big signings. I think we should persist with Freddy. Chopping and changing personnel has never worked. Give Pierce the opportunity that Jamie should've had.

A very clinical and comfortable display by Saints. Enjoy the win.

Oh, are you talking about the dodgy call in the first half when Shaun Kenny Dowell played at the ball and the on-field refs didn't give the Dragons "6 again". How would this dodgy call have assisted vthe chooks. Oh hang on....you mean the dodgy call against the chooks in the second half, just before Matt Prior scored. Yeh, I see how you would be peeved by that call. I hope you were equally as peeved when the SKD decision occurred. The bad calls balanced out, to imply that the ones against the chooks were worse, just means you are biased.

 

[maestro1]

wayne bennett is a liar,a double crosser and he is not a man of his word

If you ere referring to his "no show" at Bondi, you need to look at your own back yard and in particular one official who leaked his arrival at Bondi. Bennet is a man of his word and he promised the chooks that if his arrival was leaked before he could notify the Broncos he would squash the deal. the roosters leaked the move, Bennet was true to his word.

You wish he wasn't a man of his word, because then he would still have come. I love the man's conviction. He told them what would happen..........

 

[gregstar]

wayne bennett is a liar,a double crosser and he is not a man of his word

you're needed at the soup kitchen. take your spoon.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Oh, are you talking about the dodgy call in the first half when Shaun Kenny Dowell played at the ball and the on-field refs didn't give the Dragons "6 again". How would this dodgy call have assisted vthe chooks. Oh hang on....you mean the dodgy call against the chooks in the second half, just before Matt Prior scored. Yeh, I see how you would be peeved by that call. I hope you were equally as peeved when the SKD decision occurred. The bad calls balanced out, to imply that the ones against the chooks were worse, just means you are biased.

Maestro.
First of all, the decision that you refer to in the first half didn't impact the game as much as the second incident because and only because, as I stated, our young team didn't have the head-space nor professionalism and conviction (like Saints) to overcome said poor decisions. For the Dragons, a team oozing with confidence at the moment, take those poor decisions on the chin and get on with it. Rosters knew they had to score first in the second half but dropped their bundle at the first bad call so I'm not peeved with either decision as I was merely explaining and accept our short comings which you may have taken in - if you took the whole post in its entirety. I thought I was being complementary of Dragons. There's a lot to like about Saints this year. They're looking nearly as good as the 2002-04 Roosters.;-)

 

[maestro1]

Baby face O'reilly
Perhaps I took your post and combined it with the gazillion posts from rabid dogs supporters and took yours out of context. These dogs supporters will tell anyone who'll listen, that Saints in 2009, always get the dodgy decisions go their way. This is of course based on one 79th minute decision that they haven't stopped crying about. None of them talk about all the decisions in that game that went their way. If these went the right way, Saints would have led by 20 and the 79th minute decision would have been a moot point.

 

[gottabegood]

Pearce is a naturally ordinary footballer, with plenty of heart.

Against the dragons we had them shot near the line after a break, and what happens, he goes into auto kick pilot...again.

His extreme kick happy tendencies reveals that he has never had confidence running the ball or setting up supports in general play.

And when he kicks, his bombs are often too long for his supports to get to or those in-goal almost always go dead (considering the thousands or was that millions of attempts he makes).

The sooner he and anyone encouraging him to be kick happy is replaced , the sooner I can enjoy watching the roosters play footy.

 

[KFC]

Pearce is 20 years old and has played Origin and Semi-Final footy.

Soward is 25 and is playing brilliant football in a well drilled team.

Let's see how Jamie handles himself when he plays in a game that's a notch up from the week in week out of the NRL.

 

[Godz Illa]

Pearce is 20 years old and has played Origin and Semi-Final footy.

And no wins in either.

 

[KFC]

And no wins in either.

That's true but he has participated at a higher level than the Milkman at a much younger age.

That is a fact.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Also agree with babyface about Pearce. I think he'll be a 10 year NRL halfback and could well be considered for SOO in that time.

Disagree about Fittler though. The bloke can hardly string two words together, how's he supposed to communicate to his players? And as for discipline...well let's just say a leader should set the example....

I can't blame you for thinking that but Benny is pretty economical with words too. So what does that mean? Not much as Bennett's great record will testify.

You'd have to admit that Freddy was at least a decent captain. As far as I know, a captain and/or No6 do a lot of talking on the field and they inspire you with not just a special effort but with words of encouragement as well. Don't let the fact that he didn't get elocution lessons as a kid fool you into thinking he's dumb. He knows his footy.

As for discipline, I can't argue with you there but that incident in Townsville illustrates a problem within the club that goes far beyond the coach. After ten good years, the club's not handling failure very well. Maybe not leaving your coach hanging so long may help too. Showing confidence in him will help not just Freddy but the entire squad. I say be patient and give him another contract.

 

[Red Bear]

Soward at the same age as Pearce was captaining a Jersey Flegg side.
He showed some decent signs last season but it wasnt until this year, aged 24/25, that he has actually stamped a mark on the game. I think Pearce has time to improve at the moment.

I also think Soward behind the current Roosters pack would be near useless. His succes is due to the excellent work the forwards are doing giving him the space to use his kicking game. If he was at the chooks no forward momentum = no space to move = not much impact.

 

[maestro1]

That's true but he has participated at a higher level than the Milkman at a much younger age.

That is a fact.

....and Mitch Pearce made origin on form LOL......He made it on family reputation....nepotism is rife in the nRL. Have you ever heard the fox commentators. They cream themselves everytime Pearce does his job. When he kicks a 40/20 they cream their pants. The other weak Kouparitsas threw Junior a very catchable pass. It wasn't the best pass, but catchable. The Fox commentators LEAPT to Junior's defense and castigated Kouparitsas.

He should never have made origin and the fact that he has not played since speaks volumes of how good he is......Not very.

Soward, however is brilliant and has so much more to offer than juniors boy. Even his supposed achilles heel (defence) is not that bad. So Greg Inglis and Daniela Tuiaki bumped him off..........I noticed Greg Inglis bumped of the NSw captain in the last SOO II. I didn't hear anybody telling us his defense is woeful. And who hasn't Tuiaki bumped off.

Fittler and Fitzy are showing themselves to be bad sports with some of the comments about Soward. The guy is the form half if not player in the comp and no one will give him any credit.......

 

[Monk]

....and Mitch Pearce made origin on form LOL......He made it on family reputation....nepotism is rife in the nRL. Have you ever heard the fox commentators. They cream themselves everytime Pearce does his job. When he kicks a 40/20 they cream their pants. The other weak Kouparitsas threw Junior a very catchable pass. It wasn't the best pass, but catchable. The Fox commentators LEAPT to Junior's defense and castigated Kouparitsas.

He should never have made origin and the fact that he has not played since speaks volumes of how good he is......Not very.

Soward, however is brilliant and has so much more to offer than juniors boy. Even his supposed achilles heel (defence) is not that bad. So Greg Inglis and Daniela Tuiaki bumped him off..........I noticed Greg Inglis bumped of the NSw captain in the last SOO II. I didn't hear anybody telling us his defense is woeful. And who hasn't Tuiaki bumped off.

Fittler and Fitzy are showing themselves to be bad sports with some of the comments about Soward. The guy is the form half if not player in the comp and no one will give him any credit.......

are you reading what you type? seriously... :roll:

Juiniors passing game and Defence is far superior to Sowies.

 

[Gaba]

are you reading what you type? seriously... :roll:

Juiniors passing game and Defence is far superior to Sowies.

YOu are joking right

 

[Red Bear]

I doubt it.

His defence sh*ts all over Sowards and his passing game is better.

Soward is quicker and has a better territorial kicking game.
He is also playing behind a dominant pack whilst Pearce is behind a pack being dominated.
The forward pack makes all the difference in the world to the performance of the halves playing behind it.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Who the f**k is Mitch Pierce?

 

[Gaba]

I doubt it.

His defence sh*ts all over Sowards and his passing game is better.

Soward is quicker and has a better territorial kicking game.
He is also playing behind a dominant pack whilst Pearce is behind a pack being dominated.
The forward pack makes all the difference in the world to the performance of the halves playing behind it.

LOL when the roosters have dominated pearce does nothing other then the bomb or kick or inside passes, his defence has been brittle he been run over by players half hearted run, shows how weak his defence has been