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MORLEY SHOULD HAVE GOT CHURCH HILL MEDAL

taxidriver

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Since when have high shots been allowed ?

I thought they got rid of them some time ago, even before that 12 y.o scotch your drinking first started being distilled.

Morley is a thug always has been, always will be.
 

SirShire

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Bullshit, Morley was the best Rooster but still didnt deserve it. Priddis is the deserving recipient.
 
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taxidriver said:
Since when have high shots been allowed ?

I thought they got rid of them some time ago, even before that 12 y.o scotch your drinking first started being distilled.

Morley is a thug always has been, always will be.
If your definition of a thug is Morley's game on Sunday, I would gladly have 9 more on the team.
 

Criswell

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I hate the Roosters with a vengance, but I do agree that Morley was the stand out player.

Amazing one in a lifetime game. He hit as hard at the end as he did at the start.

Too bad Walker ruined it for you guys. :lol:

P.S The laugh is for Walker.
 

HoLLuS

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SS1908 said:
Maroubra Eel said:
He's one of your local juniors isn't he?

Ye Morley is a Easts jnr just like Craig Wing and thats why they want concessions in the salary cap for all there juniors.. Wasn't Fittler a Easts jnr as well.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Craig Wing played for the Coogee Wombats...that team is part of the easts juniors, which players in the souths comp because there aren't enough teams for the easts comp, therefore he was graded as a souths junior, kind of like Bryan Fletcher, so actually Wing is a rooster junior......originally
 

SS1908

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HoLLuS said:
SS1908 said:
Maroubra Eel said:
He's one of your local juniors isn't he?

Ye Morley is a Easts jnr just like Craig Wing and thats why they want concessions in the salary cap for all there juniors.. Wasn't Fittler a Easts jnr as well.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Craig Wing played for the Coogee Wombats...that team is part of the easts juniors, which players in the souths comp because there aren't enough teams for the easts comp, therefore he was graded as a souths junior, kind of like Bryan Fletcher, so actually Wing is a rooster junior......originally

Thank you for answering that question for me... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

ozzie

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Catatonic_Omnivore said:
taxidriver said:
Morley should have gotten time not a medal.

The master of the cheap shot struck again, at least twice by my counting.
Cheap shot my butt. You couldn't tell the difference between a cheap shot and a 12yr old bottle of scotch.

Those were 100% pure controlled agression on display. Lesser players would have taken offence to some of the hits but they were either too groggy from the after effects or they knew they were in a tough game and loved every bit of it. A bit of both I guess.

If you have a problem with what was on display last Sunday I suggest a game of Bridge might be more your style.

actually I would suggest knitting - pearl one etc etc
 

taxidriver

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I have no problems with aggression as long as it is within the rules.

Morley hit high on more than one occassion, high shots are no longer part of the game.

Morley is a coward and a thug. I'm not making it up, his past record speaks for itself. What do they say about leopards and spots ?
 
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taxidriver said:
I have no problems with aggression as long as it is within the rules.

Morley hit high on more than one occassion, high shots are no longer part of the game.

Morley is a coward and a thug. I'm not making it up, his past record speaks for itself. What do they say about leopards and spots ?
You obviously have no concept of a deliberate high shot and a non-deliberate high shot. If were to ban "high shots" in general we would start the game with 13 a side and end up with a couple of players trying to out run each other by half time.

In todays fast paced game the margin of error is so small and given that some of the humans out there playing our beloved game have little or no necks. This makes the task of tying up the ball a little harder don't you think? Maybe the league should look at banning the players from carrying the ball on their chests and have them run around with the ball between their legs. Gives new meaning to "Ball & All" tackle.

High shots will always be a part of the game. It's the intent in which it is delivered is what should be asked. Now if you think Morley goes out there with malicious intent then I suggest you look at some footage of any Wests v Manly games in the 70's.

I don't know if you met Adrian, but from my experience I consider him one of the nicest blokes to ever rattle the teeth of his opposition. He loves nothing better than a hard & fast game. I've seen him take hits and just gets up, never have I seen him take a swing at the opposition just because he was hit with a great tackle. I have not even seen him carry on and jeer an opposing player after one of his hits.

Rugby League is a high contact sport in which mere mortals like myself would prefer to watch from a distance.

As for calling him a coward, I would think twice seeing that you post behind an anonymous identity.

I acknowledge your thoughs and opinions, mis-guided but your opinions none the less.
 

taxidriver

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Anonimity has nothing to do with it, tell me where I can find Adrian and I'll tell him I think his high shots are cowardly. Are you implying that he would whack me one for telling him ? Hitting someone high when they aren't in a position to defend themselves is a cowardly act.

You conveniently left out a defense for Morley's judiciary record, is that because it's indefensible ?

Intent has nothing to do with it, players are charged week in week out for "reckless" tackles.

Morley's style of defense is in itself reckless and more prone to hitting opponents high tham most other players in the game. Does the fact that he consciously adopts that tactic make any fouls intentianal ? I believe the answer could be yes.
 

suburbanknight

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Catatonic_Omnivore said:
I don't know if you met Adrian, but from my experience I consider him one of the nicest blokes to ever rattle the teeth of his opposition. He loves nothing better than a hard & fast game. I've seen him take hits and just gets up, never have I seen him take a swing at the opposition just because he was hit with a great tackle. I have not even seen him carry on and jeer an opposing player after one of his hits.

A couple of years ago we played a regular season game at Wigan. During the first half Wigan had to drop out from beneath the sticks and the ball went straight to Mozza. He ran it in as only Mozza can, full pelt basically, and the Wigan defence came to meet him. Two went low on him but a third Wigan player came in, leapt off the floor and smashed Mozza square in the face with his forearm. The impact was massive and Mozza was out cold for several minutes. He was taken to the dressing room where he came round with the help of the salts. His eye was fully closed and the swelling on his face was huge.

By the end of half time, he was dying to get back onto the pitch!!! You could see him champing at the bit to get back on. And here is my point. He was champing at the bit to get on, not because he wanted revenge but because it was a big game and he hated being on the bench and having to watch the game. He came back on with about 15 minutes to go, head heavily bandaged and only able to see out of one eye. He drove the ball in hard, tackled like a demon and helped set up the winning try for Brad Godden in those 15 minutes. He didn't once go out to seek revenge for the brutal assault on him in the first half.

The bloke is not a thug, he plays the game in the only way he knows how too. Hard, fast and fair. Its only his tackling style that has let him down in the past.

And how anyone can call the guy a coward is beyond me!!
 
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suburbanknight said:
Catatonic_Omnivore said:
I don't know if you met Adrian, but from my experience I consider him one of the nicest blokes to ever rattle the teeth of his opposition. He loves nothing better than a hard & fast game. I've seen him take hits and just gets up, never have I seen him take a swing at the opposition just because he was hit with a great tackle. I have not even seen him carry on and jeer an opposing player after one of his hits.

A couple of years ago we played a regular season game at Wigan. During the first half Wigan had to drop out from beneath the sticks and the ball went straight to Mozza. He ran it in as only Mozza can, full pelt basically, and the Wigan defence came to meet him. Two went low on him but a third Wigan player came in, leapt off the floor and smashed Mozza square in the face with his forearm. The impact was massive and Mozza was out cold for several minutes. He was taken to the dressing room where he came round with the help of the salts. His eye was fully closed and the swelling on his face was huge.

By the end of half time, he was dying to get back onto the pitch!!! You could see him champing at the bit to get back on. And here is my point. He was champing at the bit to get on, not because he wanted revenge but because it was a big game and he hated being on the bench and having to watch the game. He came back on with about 15 minutes to go, head heavily bandaged and only able to see out of one eye. He drove the ball in hard, tackled like a demon and helped set up the winning try for Brad Godden in those 15 minutes. He didn't once go out to seek revenge for the brutal assault on him in the first half.

The bloke is not a thug, he plays the game in the only way he knows how too. Hard, fast and fair. Its only his tackling style that has let him down in the past.

And how anyone can call the guy a coward is beyond me!!
I'm glad there is someone out there that agrees with me. You post pretty much sums up the Morley I met. A fantastic bloke.

As for Taxidriver, I'm sure you are entitled to your opinion. You obviously don't know the person you bag so much. I even more perplexed that you zero in on Morley where there are a dozen or so that you could have included in your definition of a "Thug".

And no Morley wouldn't have a go at you or "whack you" if you told it to his face cause it would not be his style. You have obviously missed my point about calling someone a coward and your anonimity.
 

taxidriver

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My references to Adrian as a coward are meant along similair lines of people calling Tallis a coward for his attack on Ross in rd 1. Calling him a coward was a bit harsh and I apologise for it.

I've never met him and I'm happy to take your word that he is a nice bloke. It doesn't change the fact that he hits high and does it often. Lang fair dinkum' copped at least two smacks square in the face from Morley.

I'm a Saint fan, we lost Craig Smith because "his style" of playing the game was deemed too rough for the NRL. For my money, Morley is consistantly worse than Craig Smith ever was.
 

suburbanknight

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taxidriver said:
I'm a Saint fan, we lost Craig Smith because "his style" of playing the game was deemed too rough for the NRL. For my money, Morley is consistantly worse than Craig Smith ever was.

Is that the Craig Smith who put a St Helens player out of the game last weekend with a raised knee into the ribs when running the ball in? I dont recall anyone not being able to take any further part in the GF after a couple of Mozza bell ringers.
 

taxidriver

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suburbanknight said:
taxidriver said:
I'm a Saint fan, we lost Craig Smith because "his style" of playing the game was deemed too rough for the NRL. For my money, Morley is consistantly worse than Craig Smith ever was.

Is that the Craig Smith who put a St Helens player out of the game last weekend with a raised knee into the ribs when running the ball in? I dont recall anyone not being able to take any further part in the GF after a couple of Mozza bell ringers.

Put some thought into your posts. Since when does the damage inflicted have anything to do with the legality of the action ?

I've seen players put out for the season from 100% legal hits.

Just because Lang was able to keep going doesn't mean he wasn't hit high.

Smith was deemed to have a careless action and was penalised out of the NRL, all I'm saying is that Morley is just as, if not more careless in his action.
 

suburbanknight

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taxidriver said:
Put some thought into your posts.

Hello pot. My names kettle.

taxidriver said:
Since when does the damage inflicted have anything to do with the legality of the action ?
I've seen players put out for the season from 100% legal hits.
Just because Lang was able to keep going doesn't mean he wasn't hit high.
Smith was deemed to have a careless action and was penalised out of the NRL, all I'm saying is that Morley is just as, if not more careless in his action.

Smiths running style wasn't and still isn't legal. Morleys bell ringing, tackling style is. End of!
 
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taxidriver said:
My references to Adrian as a coward are meant along similair lines of people calling Tallis a coward for his attack on Ross in rd 1. Calling him a coward was a bit harsh and I apologise for it.

I've never met him and I'm happy to take your word that he is a nice bloke. It doesn't change the fact that he hits high and does it often. Lang fair dinkum' copped at least two smacks square in the face from Morley.

I'm a Saint fan, we lost Craig Smith because "his style" of playing the game was deemed too rough for the NRL. For my money, Morley is consistantly worse than Craig Smith ever was.
Apologies accepted. So we agree that Morley is not a Coward.

Now to address the issue of high tackles. You claim that Morley hits high and does it often. Two in fact from the GF. Looking at the stats Morley made 38 tackles and you saw 2 high hits which in your opinion was illegal.

So going by your comment that he does it often 2 out of 38 is approx 5% of his tackles you deem "illegal". Now 5%, again based on your definition of illegal, is not often is it? I mean you couldn't even say 1 in 3 tackles could you.

I'm not condoning high shots don't get me wrong. But I do make a disticntion between an intended high shot and one that isn't. Name me a 1st grade NRL coach that doesn't instruct his players to attack the ball and lock it up. Human anatomy suggest that the only place a ball runner can hold the ball is on his chest which is in close proximity to the neck & head area. Unfortunate but that's the way God made us.

Now I'm not a NRL coach nor do I pretend to be but I do know enough that if you give an attacking team like Penrith to ooportunity offload the ball and get a second phase play going, your in for a flogging. So how would you go about ensuring that Penrith forwards don't get their passes away with out trying to attack or lock up the ball?
 

taxidriver

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Smiths running style wasn't and still isn't legal. Morleys bell ringing, tackling style is. End of![/quote

What side of the fence ar you on ???

OC - rather than quoting %'s, look at it as 2 high shots a game. Thats two too many by my counts.

Sure mistakes can happen and a player can inadvertantly get a high shot in but how many other players in the game have his reputation for high shots and the number of them he gets in?

Petrol Sevencentsalitre has a reputation as THE hardest hitter in the game, who many complaints have you heard about his style ?

Anyways, as I said before coward was too harsh and term and I apologise for it. It looks as if we both have differing opinions on this one, but that's what forums are all about !
 

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