Mortimer

[lingard]

Disagree, I see someone who shows moments of brilliance but not consistant involvment. I think KK gets his hands on the ball more and works to a plan, while Mortz plays what in front of him and injects himself spuratically (Ben Roberts like).

I am not saying that Mortz is a bad player or has no future rather being realistic. Tim Smith started with a band and went sour quickly, while someone like Prince always showed somthing but took time to deliver.

Mortimer could go either way, aswell as Keating and no one can argue that. I think these two will have plenty of time over an offseason to develop a solid partnership (that can continue from the jnr days) and If it works they can stay together. We have to consider the idea that it may fail and if we had to pick between KK and Mortz atm I am still leaning towards KK.

PS. I think KK combined with Hayne much better than Mortz, I can remember a few occations KK has put Hayne into a gap but I am yet to see Mortz do the same. IMO KK has much better vision and Hayne is utilized much better for that.

Isn`t it strange? You think Keating might be better than Mortimer, and I think the other way `round. Neither of us would have the vaguest clue, because so many things can happen - as you pointed out. (And, ultimately, who cares anyway?) But one of us has to be branded with the tag 'you`ve got no idea' or 'haven`t got a clue'. Guess I`m just lucky it`s you this time. Until next time.

 

[lingard]

Agree to a point. I'm not going to criticize Robson too much. Fact is he is out of his depth at NRL level. He's had plenty of years in the lower grades to earn his trade, and plenty of experience at least training with NRL sides. The fact is, if a halfback hasn't stamped himself as an NRL level by age 26, the chances of him ever doing so are very slim. Whereas a 19 year old player still has a lot to learn about the position in general and what's required to perform at an elite level.

Robson has had a career riddled with serious injury.

 

[Raudonikis]

a great word to explain yourself Raudonikis



there is your first problem

The next time you feel like expressing yourself or trying to understand what i have actually said,maybe you should have a grown up think about it first

 

[Krakow]

Good players look like they have time with the ball ..... Mortimer to me looks like he has time when he has the ball in hand.

 

[caylo]

The next time you feel like expressing yourself or trying to understand what i have actually said,maybe you should have a grown up think about it first

this coming from someone who makes the stated the following

i always enjoy reading the opinions of people who have no idea of what they are on about.

Look I have no little idea how old you are, but by that comment your mentality never left the teen years. That comment made you sound like a school child picking on someone around a crowd to make himself feel better.

When people are having discussion they generally provide reasons for what they are saying. I provided my reason for why I think KK is better; you simply proclaimed that Mortimer was the second coming with nothing substantial. Be constructive or simply stop making yourself out like such a fool.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Disagree, I see someone who shows moments of brilliance but not consistant involvment. I think KK gets his hands on the ball more and works to a plan, while Mortz plays what in front of him and injects himself spuratically (Ben Roberts like).

I thought that too, but to be fair, Morts is playing at five eight so he hasnt got the ball as much as KK because KK was playing at 7.

Also, DA said a while ago that Morts is the fittest player at the club, thats why he figures so much at the end of games. So it looks like Morts dosent get involved enough, but really at the end of games there just isnt anyone else around to call for the ball because they are buggered. Which makes it seem like he only has moments of brilliance.

Strange.. i thought i was letting you know you have no idea about what you were talking about.

Strange, I thought you like reading your own posts. And HJ's from time to time.

 

[Raudonikis]

this coming from someone who makes the stated the following



Look I have no little idea how old you are, but by that comment your mentality never left the teen years. That comment made you sound like a school child picking on someone around a crowd to make himself feel better.

When people are having discussion they generally provide reasons for what they are saying. I provided my reason for why I think KK is better; you simply proclaimed that Mortimer was the second coming with nothing substantial. Be constructive or simply stop making yourself out like such a fool.

Funny,but you obviously cant tell what a tongue in cheek comment is

 

[caylo]

Funny,but you obviously cant tell what a tongue in cheek comment is

funny because my comments were just childish banter to mimic you... I was showing you the lack of intelegence involved in your argument. So there you go, you call what you said tounge in cheak and I mimiced that so get over it.

You have still yet to tell me why you think Mortimer is better, I am open to having a discussion rather than childish argument.

I thought that too, but to be fair, Morts is playing at five eight so he hasnt got the ball as much as KK because KK was playing at 7.

Also, DA said a while ago that Morts is the fittest player at the club, thats why he figures so much at the end of games. So it looks like Morts dosent get involved enough, but really at the end of games there just isnt anyone else around to call for the ball because they are buggered. Which makes it seem like he only has moments of brilliance.

you do make a valid point and atm I do think Mortimer is playing a 5-8s role. Just a few times when Mortimer goes the wrong way that concerns me, stuff he should know by now. A simple eg is when Hayne made the break and kicked and regarthered to be Hunt. Mortimer needed to swing the ball left to Inu who had the try line begging and Mortimer played it through the middle. I have very little doubt that KK would have swung that wide and he would have probably been there in support fpr the break.

KK is the type of player that is always in the right place at the right time, I think he has that about him. I still very much am looking forward to:

1 Hayne

6 Mortimer
7 KK

9 MK

14 Mitchell

 

[Raudonikis]

funny because my comments were just childish banter to mimic you... I was showing you the lack of intelegence involved in your argument. So there you go, you call what you said tounge in cheak and I mimiced that so get over it.

You have still yet to tell me why you think Mortimer is better, I am open to having a discussion rather than childish argument.



you do make a valid point and atm I do think Mortimer is playing a 5-8s role. Just a few times when Mortimer goes the wrong way that concerns me, stuff he should know by now. A simple eg is when Hayne made the break and kicked and regarthered to be Hunt. Mortimer needed to swing the ball left to Inu who had the try line begging and Mortimer played it through the middle. I have very little doubt that KK would have swung that wide and he would have probably been there in support fpr the break.

KK is the type of player that is always in the right place at the right time, I think he has that about him. I still very much am looking forward to:

1 Hayne

6 Mortimer
7 KK

9 MK

14 Mitchell

You have a hide to comment on my spelling and comprehension have a look at some of your own in that post..Look we can all agree or dissagree,doesnt matter,alls i was saying is in my opinion the young bloke has started taking controll of the team and has been playing as a 7.What i meant was if you cant see that then yes you have no idea.No wonder so many people say they have had a gut full of what goes on here in this forum and go elsewhere..You say i am acting like a teenager,well if you had any intelligence you would have understood the comment i was making,re the i love reading posts about people who have no idea.If you dont have the intelligence to understand what i meant by that,well who has the intelligence.

 

[caylo]

You have a hide to comment on my spelling and comprehension have a look at some of your own post ,re the i love reading posts about people who have no idea.

please show me where i commented on your spelling? I admit that I have some of the worst spelling seen by a 21 year old you will ever see. Everyone has their faults but dont acuse me of something i didn't do. I generally have better things to do then attack spelling.

alls i was saying is in my opinion the young bloke has started taking controll of the team and has been playing as a 7

NO at no stage did you say that, and at no stage did I agrue it. I simply said that I think people are over hyping him. ATM he looks good but still has many flause and I'm not ready to sing his praise.

What i meant was if you cant see that then yes you have no idea

And now the child within returns, I know what it means I simply stated that your arguments resemble a child in the playground.

You say i am acting like a teenager,well if you had any intelligence you would have understood the comment i was making

I made comment that it is your mindset which hasn't developed from its teenage years. Are you sure your not a 16 year old living at home with mummy?

 

[Raudonikis]

caylo you really are a f**ken idiot with those comments.
What does flause mean anyway?
I find it hard to take you seriously anyway when you choose caylo as your alias. there would be few if any front rowers that would take him serious the way he has performed the past 3 years.

 

[Raudonikis]

I love being the teenager lol>>>Caylo just keep going.

 

[caylo]

I love being the teenager lol>>>Caylo just keep going.

Yes because you attacking the name Caylo is so mature... I'm just going to ignore you because it is hard to argue with a child. I even bet you are sitting down with your hands covering your ears screaming:

"LAAAAAHHHH LAHHHH LAAAAHHH I CANT HEAR YOU"

 

[lingard]

I`ve got an idea! Let`s split this forum in two. One group will be the ones who know everything; and the other group will be the ones who don`t necessarily agree with them and are, therefore, idiots (or pathetic, or clueless, or f**kin .....whatever.) I bags being in the idiots group.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

you do make a valid point and atm I do think Mortimer is playing a 5-8s role. Just a few times when Mortimer goes the wrong way that concerns me, stuff he should know by now. A simple eg is when Hayne made the break and kicked and regarthered to be Hunt. Mortimer needed to swing the ball left to Inu who had the try line begging and Mortimer played it through the middle. I have very little doubt that KK would have swung that wide and he would have probably been there in support fpr the break.

I hear your concerns, but I am confident that Morts will learn these things over time. Good players make errors, the best players learn from them.

Also, id rather Morts to half and KK to 5/8 because they both played in that combo for a while in the NYC.

 

[caylo]

I hear your concerns, but I am confident that Morts will learn these things over time. Good players make errors, the best players learn from them.

Also, id rather Morts to half and KK to 5/8 because they both played in that combo for a while in the NYC.

I don't think the numbers on their back will change the roles that either play. The two halves will probably interchange between first and second receiver all game. I do think it will be KK who will be the "senior" of the two players on the field though and he will make majority of the calls.

 

[^b0ss^]

gezzz fellas ....im still hopeful about at least making the 8 but gezz DA is building something at parra ....justin poore up front with the rest of the boys forget about it.

 

[Raudonikis]

Also, id rather Morts to half and KK to 5/8 because they both played in that combo for a while in the NYC.

Finally an intelligent opinion from someone here.

 

[caylo]

Also, id rather Morts to half and KK to 5/8 because they both played in that combo for a while in the NYC.

Finally an intelligent opinion from someone here.

In 2008 DM/KK played thogether 13 times in the halves, in which 12 of those had DM @ half and KK @5-8 (and once reversed in round 9)

You do have to consider thou that Daniel Anderson played KK at halfback ahead of Robson on 4 occations and has yet to play Mortimer at halfback because by his own admission halfback is a difficult position and he was a hard marker of halfbacks.

This tells me that Daniel thinks that KK is capable of playing and handling the halfback position while atm he does not think DM at that standard yet. I does not bother me who wears the 6 or 7 next year (or even this year when KK comes back) because I don't think it will change the roles of either player, but I have a feeling KK will start with the #7 next year.

Only time will tell thou.

 

[lingard]

In 2008 DM/KK played thogether 13 times in the halves, in which 12 of those had DM @ half and KK @5-8 (and once reversed in round 9)

You do have to consider thou that Daniel Anderson played KK at halfback ahead of Robson on 4 occations and has yet to play Mortimer at halfback because by his own admission halfback is a difficult position and he was a hard marker of halfbacks.

This tells me that Daniel thinks that KK is capable of playing and handling the halfback position while atm he does not think DM at that standard yet. I does not bother me who wears the 6 or 7 next year (or even this year when KK comes back) because I don't think it will change the roles of either player, but I have a feeling KK will start with the #7 next year.

Only time will tell thou.

Geez, I hope you realise that, with this opinion, you`ve lined up to be labelled an idiot again. You`re in good company though, I think.