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Mose Masoe

nrlnrl

First Grade
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If the Dragons signed him, definitely brings the size they're looking for :

He's listed as 120kg & 192cm, plus only 26 next May

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ll-packer-and-mose-masoe-20141029-11dpww.html

Ben Creagh says St George Illawarra Dragons aren't in crisis as they look to add Russell Packer and Mose Masoe
Date October 29, 2014 - 10:00PM
Michael Carayannis
Rugby League Writer


St George Illawarra skipper Ben Creagh has hosed down speculation of a crisis engulfing the club, instead insisting the high-profile roster changes were a natural occurrence under a new coach. The Dragons resumed pre-season training minus Canterbury bound Brett Morris while Jack Stockwell was also a notable absentee as he finalises a deal with Newcastle.

Kiwi international Gerard Beale is set to be the next casualty of the club's salary cap woes with the Titans his likely destination. The Dragons welcomed new recruits George Rose, Heath L'Estrange and Beau Henry to pre-season training as well as lesser known names including forwards Jake Marketo, Adam Tuimavave-Gerrard and Rulon Nutira and winger Eto Nabuli. Henry's return to St George Illawarra could spell the end of Kyle Stanley's stint at the club with Cronulla emerging as Stanley's likely destination. The Dragons are expected to add Russell Packer to their pack while Samoan big man Mose Masoe could also be St George Illawarra bound should he secure an early release from his St Helens contract.

Creagh backed coach Paul McGregor's changes."I don't think there's any crisis," Creagh said. "Things are going fine. A new coach has come in and taken over. We've seen it at many clubs over a long long time. They come in, they want to make changes. They want to have the team they want and they want to have the players they want in the side. "That's what's happened in this case. At times last year we did struggle against the bigger packs who weighed a fair bit more than us. It's great Mary's [McGregor] got some big guys in giving them an opportunity. They've started training well and hopefully they'll get their opportunity next year to play first grade for us."

Creagh along with Trent Merrin – who are recovering from off-season surgery – will be on restricted duties until Christmas. The Dragons skipper said he had been in constant talks with Morris before he announced his Bulldogs switch. "I've spoken to him a fair bit," Creagh said. "I'm pretty close mates with Brett. It's very sad to see him go, but in the end he made a decision based on wanting to finish his career with his brother and also financial reasons.

"You can't really hold it against him. I tried to talk to him about staying. He tried to get Josh here when he was off contract because he wanted to finish his career with him and he was pretty adamant he wanted to finish his career at the Bulldogs with him. When you talk about a player like Brett Morris I don't think you can replace a guy like that. He's one of the best wingers in the world. On the other hand you give young guys the opportunity to play first grade for St George Illawarra."
 
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Get him to bring his ex coach with him, we could do with an experienced Coaching Director, to oversee an inexperienced Coach !
 

DRAGONSNZ

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Nice, Didn't realise Mose was only 26! damn that would be a excellent pick up. With him, Rose , Creagh , Cooper and hopefully Packer in the front row rotation I doesn't look so bad up front. Plus there is a pretty decent back up in Rulon Nutira. Creagh will probably go back to second row if Mose is signed though.
 

BennyV

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Nice, Didn't realise Mose was only 26! damn that would be a excellent pick up. With him, Rose , Creagh , Cooper and hopefully Packer in the front row rotation I doesn't look so bad up front. Plus there is a pretty decent back up in Rulon Nutira. Creagh will probably go back to second row if Mose is signed though.

Creagh wont go back to second row bro. Belongs in the middle now.
 

God-King Dean

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This actually would be a good signing.

He can do some things on the field which are borderline geniused. But he has spark.
 

Get2dachopper!

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Creagh wont go back to second row bro. Belongs in the middle now.

Creagh is almost redundant in the front row now. Packer, cooper, masoe, rose, Merrin maybe. How many starting props do we need? Creagh needs to go back to left edge to stiffen up the defence and assist with an inexperienced left sided wing/ centre combo now that Morris is gone. Creagh doesn't have to play 80 minutes, so he should be fine going back to second row.
 
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The only way I see this being an even decent decision is Hunt is sent to St Helens in some type of deal if not more players will have to be shed.

Stockwell looks gone as he didn't turn upto training and that to me is just a flat out shit decision and shows either Mary is a f**king idiot or Mulholland has been missed informed about his abilities.

Look at the signings so far Gerrard, Wakeman and Le Strange may work out but the rest not even considered fill ins.

Out of the kept Mathews is okay Green and Glymin why bother.
 

tumbidragon

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Creagh is almost redundant in the front row now. Packer, cooper, masoe, rose, Merrin maybe.
Creagh gets a start over all those in bold. Runs harder and is far better in regards to defence than all those listed imo. He is far from redundant in the fronts row, and was arguably our best player last year.
 

bottle

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And Packer, if we see him, won't be till mid year it seems.
Factor in injuries, suspension and rep duties, and I think we will still need Benny in the front row.
 

DRAGONSNZ

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Creagh is almost redundant in the front row now. Packer, cooper, masoe, rose, Merrin maybe. How many starting props do we need? Creagh needs to go back to left edge to stiffen up the defence and assist with an inexperienced left sided wing/ centre combo now that Morris is gone. Creagh doesn't have to play 80 minutes, so he should be fine going back to second row.

Creagh on the left, Thompson on the right, Merrin at Lock, Packer and Rose up front, with Cooper Frizz De Ballin /Ah Mau/ Tuimavave-Gerrard and Heath Le'strage / Garvey as back up to Rein.

Beale at Fullback Nighty and Nabuli on the wings and Dugan and Mata'utia in the centres. Benji and Widdop halves.

Plus guys like Addin Fonua-Blake , Beau Henry, Rulon Nutira, Hame Sele , Charley Runciman , Adam Quinlan , Shannon Wakeman , Rory O' Brien , Will Matthews POSSIBLY MOSE MASOE and SOME DECENT UNDR 20S and its not a bad looking squad IT WILL BE DOWN TO MARY TO GET THE BEST OUT OF THEM.
 

Get2dachopper!

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Creagh gets a start over all those in bold. Runs harder and is far better in regards to defence than all those listed imo. He is far from redundant in the fronts row, and was arguably our best player last year.

Your right, but playing creagh back on the left edge, while starting a Mose, or packer, or Merrin, increase the overall size of our pack....that's kinda the point in signing these guys. Thompson needs to play centre. Yes I know he wants to play second row, but if we're paying him 400k, and we have a huge hole in our centres, then that's where he should play.
 

grouch

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Moving Creagh back to the edge is as stupid as moving Dugan to centre. So it might just happen.
 

TruSaint

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Benny and Cooper are no brainers and deserve to start at prop.

Creagh had an awesome season and plays above his weight.

Cooper, with one year under his belt in these conditions, will be a powerhouse next year.
 

BennyV

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Creagh is almost redundant in the front row now. Packer, cooper, masoe, rose, Merrin maybe. How many starting props do we need? Creagh needs to go back to left edge to stiffen up the defence and assist with an inexperienced left sided wing/ centre combo now that Morris is gone. Creagh doesn't have to play 80 minutes, so he should be fine going back to second row.

Redundant in the front row?! Did you not see him play last year? The difference in his game when he shifted was huge!!! He is not fast enough for backrower anymore, he doesnt break tackles and he doesnt really offload - he isnt the same player he was in 2010. What he does is get over the advantage line, bend the defense and get to ground quickly for a fast play the ball. He actually does that very well, and every team needs a long minute workhorse like that to compliment the impact props. He is also brilliant defensively and does more to shore up the middle than any of those guys. Hell, there were plenty of games last year when the defense fell to shit as soon as he went off.

He doesnt belong in the backrow anymore, his skillset has shifted. The team needs him at prop.
 

love my saints

Juniors
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Agree 100% benny.... all u said is 100% true.
And mose will make a huge difference up front, hope this signing comes through.
 

saints4me

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Redundant in the front row?! Did you not see him play last year? The difference in his game when he shifted was huge!!! He is not fast enough for backrower anymore, he doesnt break tackles and he doesnt really offload - he isnt the same player he was in 2010. What he does is get over the advantage line, bend the defense and get to ground quickly for a fast play the ball. He actually does that very well, and every team needs a long minute workhorse like that to compliment the impact props. He is also brilliant defensively and does more to shore up the middle than any of those guys. Hell, there were plenty of games last year when the defense fell to shit as soon as he went off.

He doesnt belong in the backrow anymore, his skillset has shifted. The team needs him at prop.


+1. Totally agree - well said!
 

Mr Red

First Grade
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Creagh is almost redundant in the front row now. Packer, cooper, masoe, rose, Merrin maybe. How many starting props do we need? Creagh needs to go back to left edge to stiffen up the defence and assist with an inexperienced left sided wing/ centre combo now that Morris is gone. Creagh doesn't have to play 80 minutes, so he should be fine going back to second row.

Creagh will play lock when Merrin gets released to head to Brisbane...
 

gonz

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Now more than ever this side needs injection of youth, so if Dugan remains at centre then Dufty to fb and Fanua Blake to 17.....ah mau to Cabramatta
 

rasaint

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Mr Red is that reference to Merrin being released to Brisbane at the end of this season or are you hearing this coming season? I understand he is still under contract for 2015?
 

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