Most Under-rated Bands in the History of the World.

[Ron Jeremy]

geezus ....hit me with some boring sales stats why don't ya Ronny?

Why not?, just because the bands you listen to struggle to hit Gold status in Australia:lol:, so basically sales are irrelevant?, they have to merrit something

One listen with my highly tuned ears tells me that any sales they achieved puts them in the highest end of the over-rated scale.
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Highly tuned ear?, weren't you the one that stated that Jim Moginie from Midnight Oil was a better guitarist then Eddie Van Halen:lol: :lol:. Was it as over-rated as Peter Garretts politically career and voice.

Now this is one of the classic Ron Jeremy quotes of all time.

Considering the putrid sexist repetetive dogsh*t spat out by your hero's I'd be retracting that comment before a few RATT lyrics get posted.

I never said Ratt were great lyrically, go on prove me wrong, but they were all very competent muso's ( apart from singer), like most LA bands at the time.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Madness and FGTH were pretty bloody different Ron!
Not embarassed to say I liked both of them, although the overt homosexual overtones of FGTH was a bit off putting.
The fact that you would categorise them together, is more credence to my theory that you see popular music as either c**k-rock or crap!

Face it Ron, you like c**k-rock, the bigger the hair the better!!!
But you'd probably make an exception for that bald motherf**ker out of Judas Priest!

Slappy, i bet you anything that if Madness came out of LA in the mid 80's and had the big hair etc you'd be calling them crap, but because they didn't they are seen as somewhat respectable, just like the Ramones etc, but basically they were a bubble gum band.

As much as you hate hair bands in the 80's....they could all f**king play there instruments bloody well

 

[carcharias]

Why not?, just because the bands you listen to struggle to hit Gold status in Australia:lol:, so basically sales are irrelevant?, they have to merrit something

Um Shannon Noll went gold...so did Human nature singing other people songs...kind of makes your sales = talent theory pretty piss poor.


Highly tuned ear?, weren't you the one that stated that Jim Moginie from Midnight Oil was a better guitarist then Eddie Van Halen:lol: :lol:. Was it as over-rated as Peter Garretts politically career and voice.

Quote me where I said Moginie was better than Eddie Van Halen. I never even brought up VH when I said it. Moginie IMO is the best guitarist .


I never said Ratt were great lyrically, go on prove me wrong, but they were all very competent muso's ( apart from singer), like most LA bands at the time.

So why bag Madness out for their lyrics ?
Which might I add were (if you had actually been bothered to listen to more than the one or two song you remembered from Donny Sutherlands Sounds) quite bloody good .

 

[Slappy]

Donny Sutherland's Sounds, that brings back some memories!

 

[Slappy]

Slappy, i bet you anything that if Madness came out of LA in the mid 80's and had the big hair etc you'd be calling them crap, but because they didn't they are seen as somewhat respectable, just like the Ramones etc, but basically they were a bubble gum band.

As much as you hate hair bands in the 80's....they could all f**king play there instruments bloody well

Ron, I don't hate all the hair bands from the 80's, just the sh*tty ones, and playing an instrument well doesn't mean that the music won't be tripe!
If you are inferring that Madness were inept in the music department, then you are wrong dude. They used not only guitars and drums, but added saxophones, pianos/keyboards as well as other percussion. As far as I'm concerned they had a pretty rich sound which used elements of ska/reggae to pop and even good old rock n' roll. They did indulge in a lot of tomfoolery in the clips, which I guess could lead one to believe they were 'mugs' just mucking around, but they were all proficient. Lyrically they were pretty strong too, with Suggs and Chas singing about a variety of things besides the usual 'lovey stuff.' They released a few instumentals, showcasing their musical talents which were quite elegant in my opinion.

 

[carcharias]

Ron, I don't hate all the hair bands from the 80's, just the sh*tty ones, and playing an instrument well doesn't mean that the music won't be tripe!
If you are inferring that Madness were inept in the music department, then you are wrong dude. They used not only guitars and drums, but added saxophones, pianos/keyboards as well as other percussion. As far as I'm concerned they had a pretty rich sound which used elements of ska/reggae to pop and even good old rock n' roll. They did indulge in a lot of tomfoolery in the clips, which I guess could lead one to believe they were 'mugs' just mucking around, but they were all proficient. Lyrically they were pretty strong too, with Suggs and Chas singing about a variety of things besides the usual 'lovey stuff.' They released a few instumentals, showcasing their musical talents which were quite elegant in my opinion.

Fug Oath!

Madness were great...and umm from the 80's.
The were and still are great muso's .
The lyrics explored a wide range of topics from simple fragile love songs to hilarious songs about being a kid.
Not to mention songs dealing with domestic violence , growing old and travelling in strange countries.

So what if they had fun doing it.

 

[Christmas Ape]

It Must Be Love by Madness has one of the best bass parts in history.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Madness similar? I've now heard it all.

 

[carcharias]

It Must Be Love by Madness has one of the best bass parts in history.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Madness similar? I've now heard it all.

Yep ..bloody great fusion of reggae and ska with a whole bunch of strings over the top.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Smartarse:lol:

Go and listen to your poofy Ramones;-)

I like The Ramones now?

:crazy::crazy:

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Ron, I don't hate all the hair bands from the 80's, just the sh*tty ones, and playing an instrument well doesn't mean that the music won't be tripe!
If you are inferring that Madness were inept in the music department, then you are wrong dude. They used not only guitars and drums, but added saxophones, pianos/keyboards as well as other percussion. As far as I'm concerned they had a pretty rich sound which used elements of ska/reggae to pop and even good old rock n' roll. They did indulge in a lot of tomfoolery in the clips, which I guess could lead one to believe they were 'mugs' just mucking around, but they were all proficient. Lyrically they were pretty strong too, with Suggs and Chas singing about a variety of things besides the usual 'lovey stuff.' They released a few instumentals, showcasing their musical talents which were quite elegant in my opinion.

But dude, many hair bands used keyboards,saxophones, percussion aswell eg Ratt, Gunners, Aerosmith etc, but they're all looked down upon....and not to mention there voices were generally brillant, but because they came out of LA they are discriminated.

Gunners were a band that had it all, but fair enough you know more about Madness then me....but from what i've heard of them it's very easy to gain a perception of them as bubble gum music.

My style...well the style i prefer is very much guitar/lead orientated..together with loud drums and strong vocals, imo that is the way rock should sound eg ACDC, Gunners, VH, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden etc

 

[Ron Jeremy]

I like The Ramones now?

:crazy::crazy:

You always did, thats why you should come up to my house for a jam so you can see the light;-)

Im at Beverly cres now, you still playing?

 

[Ron Jeremy]

It Must Be Love by Madness has one of the best bass parts in history.

Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Madness similar? I've now heard it all.

So does Relax, that bass part kicks arse hey.

If that has one of the best bass parts that you've heard then i dread to see your CD collection.

I was made for loving you by KISS has the best bass/rythem i've heard, good sex music, or anything by Barry White.

 

[miccle]

G.Love and Special Sauce.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Um Shannon Noll went gold...so did Human nature singing other people songs...kind of makes your sales = talent theory pretty piss poor.

You like Shannon Noll lol, so basically if a band doesn't sell an album they can be considered better then a band that sells millions?....hmmmm.

Human Nature have already a core of fans, and the album they released was an fantastic idea.

Quote me where I said Moginie was better than Eddie Van Halen. I never even brought up VH when I said it. Moginie IMO is the best guitarist .

The thread was best guitarists, you said Jim Mogine is the best guitarist hence meaning that you consider him better, don't try and twist it around.

As for lyrics of Madness?..from what i've heard...hair bands have better lyrics, and hair bands most of the time was there downfall lol

 

[Slappy]

But dude, many hair bands used keyboards,saxophones, percussion aswell eg Ratt, Gunners, Aerosmith etc, but they're all looked down upon....and not to mention there voices were generally brillant, but because they came out of LA they are discriminated.

Gunners were a band that had it all, but fair enough you know more about Madness then me....but from what i've heard of them it's very easy to gain a perception of them as bubble gum music.

My style...well the style i prefer is very much guitar/lead orientated..together with loud drums and strong vocals, imo that is the way rock should sound eg ACDC, Gunners, VH, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden etc

Ron you're well versed in your metal/hard rock, an area of music which I am not expert in. I love a lot of the hair metal stuff, but in my opinion there were a lot of impostors in it. The Gunners put out some of the best music I have ever heard, and that is about as 'stadium music' as you can get. Aerosmith were a fantastic band and Some Motley Crue and Iron Maiden stuff really impressed me, but I reckon a lot of those other bands (def leppards, whitesnake, poison, warrant, skid row) missed the mark, and again this is opinion, but maybe they lacked the melodies that their more succesful brethren had. Mind you, some of the most outstanding guitar work has come from this genre, and I'm bloody glad it exists.

As for your comment about the Gunners having it all, I agree, they combined great vocals and lyrics from a super charismatic guy, complemented by a freakishly fantastic guitarist in Slash playing really, really well constructed tunes. To be honest I don't think there will ever be another band with such universal appeal ever again.

 

[Slappy]

Died pretty same goes

What happened to those guys, 'Everybody moves' was one of the best songs I've ever heard. Wasn't a huge fan, but that Peno fella had a great voice!

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Ron you're well versed in your metal/hard rock, an area of music which I am not expert in. I love a lot of the hair metal stuff, but in my opinion there were a lot of impostors in it. The Gunners put out some of the best music I have ever heard, and that is about as 'stadium music' as you can get. Aerosmith were a fantastic band and Some Motley Crue and Iron Maiden stuff really impressed me, but I reckon a lot of those other bands (def leppards, whitesnake, poison, warrant, skid row) missed the mark, and again this is opinion, but maybe they lacked the melodies that their more succesful brethren had. Mind you, some of the most outstanding guitar work has come from this genre, and I'm bloody glad it exists.

As for your comment about the Gunners having it all, I agree, they combined great vocals and lyrics from a super charismatic guy, complemented by a freakishly fantastic guitarist in Slash playing really, really well constructed tunes. To be honest I don't think there will ever be another band with such universal appeal ever again.

Well we agree on something, but don't underestimate Whitesnake...pretty much a super group with David Coverdale on vocals and the likes of John Skyes, Steve Vai, Adrian Van den berg etc on guitar, the 1987 album is quite a brillant piece of work.

Im glad that you do recongise the guitar talents to come out of this era, imo it's so bloody obvious, but people in the right places choose to turn a blind eye too it.

 

[nöyd]

Seen a doco last week on VH1 where Dee Snider said that he knew the (hair) metal movement was destined to die as soon as bands like Warrant, Whitesnake, White Lion and someone else I can't think of right now that starts with W started playing ballads and calling it soft rock.

At the time it was cool but now songs like Is This Love? and I See Red make my flesh crawl. Whitesnake playing harder stuff like Still of the Night still gives me goosebumps almost 20 years later.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Crying in the Rain is better dude!!

 

[Skeletor]

Baby Animals should of been fuggen super stars

Thanks for reminding me about them. Man they rocked.