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Muttiah Muralitharan won't come to Australia

Macca

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He's only robbing himself of wickets. We prepared Indian wickets for the Indians last summer, why wouldn't we prepare spinning wickets for him?

He's a chucker and thats all there is to it. He shouldn't have things thrown at him though.
 

CyberKev

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McSharkie said:
He's only robbing himself of wickets. We prepared Indian wickets for the Indians last summer, why wouldn't we prepare spinning wickets for him?

He's a chucker and thats all there is to it. He shouldn't have things thrown at him though.

Presumably you wanted our curators to prepare skating rink green-tops? Quite aside from the fact that the Australian bowling attack lacks the quality of previous models, there is an understandable desire among the ACB to generate Test Matches that aren't over within 3 days. At any rate, there's not a lot to suggest that the Australian battting line-up would enjoy the prospect of batting on greentops, particularly when it has built a reputation for accruing 400+ totals on routinely steady wickets.

As for the rest... You're wrong on the first count and right on the second, so I guess a 50% strike rate is better than a total washout.

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Doctor

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I think Muttiah Muralitharan has shown his true colours as a cricketer.

Cricket crowds will always target players. Phil Tufnell used to cop it when he dropped catches (which was quite often) - yet he toured when selected. Tufnell wasn't even that successful.

The difference is: Murali is successful, he can let his performances do the talking, yet he still won't come to Australia.
Many will not recognise his career statistics anyway (myself included), because of the sheer lunacy of his action's apparent "legality" - but this is beside the point.

I'm disappointed he won't tour - I'd like to think he wouldn't allow the unfavourable conditions over here or indeed the crowd's words to affect his cricket career. Clearly Australia is the only place that takes it's cricket seriously enough to worry Murali.
 

CyberKev

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Oswin said:
I think Muttiah Muralitharan has shown his true colours as a cricketer.

Cricket crowds will always target players. Phil Tufnell used to cop it when he dropped catches (which was quite often) - yet he toured when selected. Tufnell wasn't even that successful.

The difference is: Murali is successful, he can let his performances do the talking, yet he still won't come to Australia.
Many will not recognise his career statistics anyway (myself included), because of the sheer lunacy of his action's apparent "legality" - but this is beside the point.

I'm disappointed he won't tour - I'd like to think he wouldn't allow the unfavourable conditions over here or indeed the crowd's words to affect his cricket career. Clearly Australia is the only place that takes it's cricket seriously enough to worry Murali.

Yawn...

1) There's no doubt as to your "true" colours.

2) Great argument... Phil Tufnell used to get stirred for dropping catches, but he still toured... Good for Phil. Quite aside from the nonsense of picking one isolated individual and setting them as the benchmark on which others should structure their behaviours and actions; there is also the not inconsiderable difference that exists between stirring a player for clumsiness and cowardly defaming them and pelting them with objects.

3) Who are the 'many' that you speak of? The majority of fans do recognise his achievements, but then there are the likes of you who continue to embarrass themselves by pushing a barrow that suits their own mischevous purposes.

4) I've already pointedly made clear that if I were Murali I wouldn't let ugly Aussie supporters impact on my cricket. That being said, its already been well documented that Murali is a gentle soul who takes things to heart (some are, it takes all types) and this is the reason he is considering the possibility of not touring. But, of course, in your obnoxious, he-man, macho Aussie view of things it is clearly only because he is afraid of underperforming...

5) So, because the rest of the world doesn't support your narrow & biased viewpoint, its clearly because cricket supporters and authorities in ALL other countries don't take the game as seriously as a 'section' of the Australian cricketing fraternity does? :roll:

What arrogant & ignorant drivel... True colours indeed!

CyberKev
 

Kiwi

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Good on him. People want him to come so they can bag him, thats the only reason. If he rocks up and plays, all he'll cop is a bagging from the public, bagging from the media and bagging from the opposition. One can handle a few jibes, a bit of sledging and the odd bad press, but when you are a target for damn near a whole nation whats the point in coming.
 

Doctor

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Kiwi said:
when you are a target for damn near a whole nation whats the point in coming.

To play cricket?
I was of the understanding that this was his job - a lucrative job at that.

He isn't the only sportsman in history to be bagged out. Take Geoff Toovey, Michael Hancock, Gordon Tallis, even Andrew Johns. A large number within a 20,000+ crowd telling him where to go and what they want to do to him, what they will do to his sister etc. It gets pretty personal, very inappropriate and completely unnecessary - but it is all part of the job. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is.

Murali will be lucky to play in front of a crowd of 10,000 people, most of whom don't know the laws of cricket anyway, let alone cause him any concerns.
 

Kiwi

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Oswin said:
Kiwi said:
when you are a target for damn near a whole nation whats the point in coming.

To play cricket?
I was of the understanding that this was his job - a lucrative job at that.

He isn't the only sportsman in history to be bagged out. Take Geoff Toovey, Michael Hancock, Gordon Tallis, even Andrew Johns. A large number within a 20,000+ crowd telling him where to go and what they want to do to him, what they will do to his sister etc. It gets pretty personal, very inappropriate and completely unnecessary - but it is all part of the job. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is.

Murali will be lucky to play in front of a crowd of 10,000 people, most of whom don't know the laws of cricket anyway, let alone cause him any concerns.

So only 10,000 people will turn up to the tests and ODI's in a day will they? You have to be kidding right? And tell me apart from being a sport, how is cricket anything like the full on aggresive contact sport that is League? It's like comparing a sunday BBQ and a beer with the mates to a dinner and a glass of wine at a resturaunt with some friends.
 

Anonymous

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I'd expect that kind of crap in the Union forum but not here.

So I'll give you the standard UF response-

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SPORT DON'T POST HERE!

Sorted.

And Murali is a sook.
 

Kiwi

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Timbo said:
I'd expect that kind of crap in the Union forum but not here.

So I'll give you the standard UF response-

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SPORT DON'T POST HERE!

Sorted.

And Murali is a sook.

Who are you talking to?
 

Macca

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As for the rest... You're wrong on the first count and right on the second, so I guess a 50% strike rate is better than a total washout.

In your opinion I am wrong. You forgot that you are not the authority on all things cricket there pal.
 

Twizzle

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Kiwi said:
Oswin said:
Kiwi said:
when you are a target for damn near a whole nation whats the point in coming.

To play cricket?
I was of the understanding that this was his job - a lucrative job at that.

He isn't the only sportsman in history to be bagged out. Take Geoff Toovey, Michael Hancock, Gordon Tallis, even Andrew Johns. A large number within a 20,000+ crowd telling him where to go and what they want to do to him, what they will do to his sister etc. It gets pretty personal, very inappropriate and completely unnecessary - but it is all part of the job. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is.

Murali will be lucky to play in front of a crowd of 10,000 people, most of whom don't know the laws of cricket anyway, let alone cause him any concerns.

So only 10,000 people will turn up to the tests and ODI's in a day will they? You have to be kidding right? And tell me apart from being a sport, how is cricket anything like the full on aggresive contact sport that is League? It's like comparing a sunday BBQ and a beer with the mates to a dinner and a glass of wine at a resturaunt with some friends.


They play in Cairns and Darwin so they wont get much more than 10,000 .
 

Alan Shore

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Murali just doesn't want to come because his figures will blow out and we're the only ones who recognise the fact that he is cheating scum. He doesn't have the guts to face Australia in Australia.
 

Anonymous

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Tamazoid said:
Murali just doesn't want to come because his figures will blow out and we're the only ones who recognise the fact that he is cheating scum. He doesn't have the guts to face Australia in Australia.

You have to be kidding. So it must be my imagination that i've seen him tour before?


I'm very dissapointed, simply because I won't have the PRIVILEGE, of seeing Murali have a BOWL in test cricket, something i've never experienced.


Talk about prodding him to bite then bagging him when he does.
 

aqua_duck

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I can't believe people are actually sticking up for Murali, I mean imagine Andrew Johns refused to ever play in QLD in origin games, what would the reaction be?
Many a sportsman has put up with alot more than Murali, take Luis Figo for example, when playing in the Nou Camp and in barcelona he needs a police escort, there are actually protests and real madrid actually try to play him through the middle abit more to avoid being hit by missiles, I rember the 1st time he returned there when he went over to take a corner it literally rained missiles, I mean compare that to abit of crowd antics. I mean Figo actually risks his life in Barcelona.
 

Kiwi

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Twizzle said:
Kiwi said:
Oswin said:
Kiwi said:
when you are a target for damn near a whole nation whats the point in coming.

To play cricket?
I was of the understanding that this was his job - a lucrative job at that.

He isn't the only sportsman in history to be bagged out. Take Geoff Toovey, Michael Hancock, Gordon Tallis, even Andrew Johns. A large number within a 20,000+ crowd telling him where to go and what they want to do to him, what they will do to his sister etc. It gets pretty personal, very inappropriate and completely unnecessary - but it is all part of the job. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is.

Murali will be lucky to play in front of a crowd of 10,000 people, most of whom don't know the laws of cricket anyway, let alone cause him any concerns.

So only 10,000 people will turn up to the tests and ODI's in a day will they? You have to be kidding right? And tell me apart from being a sport, how is cricket anything like the full on aggresive contact sport that is League? It's like comparing a sunday BBQ and a beer with the mates to a dinner and a glass of wine at a resturaunt with some friends.


They play in Cairns and Darwin so they wont get much more than 10,000 .

So they won't be playing at the SCG? or the MCG? the WACA? how about the Gabba? they are ONLY gonna play in Cairns and Darwin?
 

El Diablo

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Kiwi said:
So they won't be playing at the SCG? or the MCG? the WACA? how about the Gabba? they are ONLY gonna play in Cairns and Darwin?

Schedule

Jun 2004

Thu 24 - Sun 27 Northern Territory Chief Minister's XI v Sri Lanka Darwin Tour match

Jul 2004

Thu 1 - Mon 5 Australia v Sri Lanka Darwin 1st Test
Fri 9 - Tue 13 Australia v Sri Lanka Cairns 2nd Test
 

THE KEGG

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In the recent 3 test series Sri Lanka Vs England (in sri lanka :lol: ) the barmy army gave it to Murali every time he bowled with a "chucking" chant ;-). Why didnt Murali forfeit the 2nd and 3rd tests if he knew these chants were coming :roll: .

I wonder if he will look to boycott visiting England now too , lmfao

The answer is simple:-
He is young enough (still has 5-7 yrs in the game) to be the greatest wicket taker in the world by a country mile, without having to tour Australia at all from now on. Whats that ? maybe miss only 4-5 tests total over the next 5-7 yrs between the two countries here in Australia....

By coming out puplically with his comments about Australian crowds, it will just infiltrate the situation for him if he has the balls to tour.
 

Macca

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Typical from the bleeding hearts here. Murili doesn't chuck, he shouldn't be payed out by Australina crowds. Blah blah blah blah blah. He is blot on Test cricket history and I am glad he isn't coming. If he takes 1000 wickets, every one of them means nothing.
 

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McSharkie said:
He's only robbing himself of wickets. We prepared Indian wickets for the Indians last summer, why wouldn't we prepare spinning wickets for him?

He's a chucker and thats all there is to it. He shouldn't have things thrown at him though.

You've probably said this 30 times or so already and quite frankly its sounding the same old same old. Back it up with some proof, for once. Not the same one liner. Its tired and tedious, and awfully sad you make a factual statement on opinion and heresay rather than cold hard evidence.

Like I've said before, I'll regard the many, many reports and investigations randomly conducted by the ICC and independent researchers more than your opinion as fact.
 
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