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NBA draft *discussion/spoiler/updates*

Stonecutter

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The Spurs keep drafting un exiting international players who don't even come over straight away. "The UN of the NBA" as said on ESPN.

Atleast we have James White who should have an increased role this year.
 

Panthers_God

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Mal Meninga said:
How come the nba draft is televised but not nfl?


becuase NBA is better than NFL




Good work to Newley!

It was a pretty interesting draft overall. I wonder how the Franchise will go in Portland with all those young and up comers.
 

McLovin

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lol at the Chinese fella who didnt wanna workout with the Bucks getting drafted by them...
 

Stonecutter

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The Bucks are worying that he'll not want to go to the team. No news on the draft show that he is going yet.
 

Stonecutter

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joel caine number 1 fan said:
Francis too be bought out apparently with Minnesota in the running for him :sarcasm:

Edit: sorry it wasn't, my mistake. On June 28, 2007, Randolph, along with Dan Dickau and Fred Jones, was traded to the Knicks in a draft day deal for Channing Frye and Steve Francis. :)

RHYTHM AND STEALTH said:
Has KG been traded yet

The suns are not making a move for him according to the suns coach on the ESPN draft show.
 

McLovin

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Lakers sign some Euro player of the year...

Papolukas, anyone know of this bloke?
 

Tiger Hawk

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Happy enough with the Hawks picks, it's what I was expecting if we weren't going to be trading them (although apparently we might still trade Acie Law). So

Acie Law
Joe Johnston
Zaza Pachulia
Josh Smith
Al Horford

Josh Childress
Marvin Williams
Shelden Williams
Speedy Claxton
Solomon Jones

Decent starting 5 (in the East) but still, weak at point guard and centre. Good to see we keep addressing those needs.

Personally, I would have preferred drafting Conley 3rd and Sean Williams with the 11th (yeah he smoked weed, but Lamar Odom's been busted a zillion times, as have half the league).
 
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RHYTHM AND STEALTH said:
Has KG been traded yet

nope and he wont be otherwise we would fo drafted Brandon Wright over corey Brewer

unless theres a bigger deal here we were talking too GS today so maybe its the reason GS made that trade???
 

osg

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Stonecutter said:
Edit: sorry it wasn't, my mistake. On June 28, 2007, Randolph, along with Dan Dickau and Fred Jones, was traded to the Knicks in a draft day deal for Channing Frye and Steve Francis. :)



The suns are not making a move for him according to the suns coach on the ESPN draft show.

fantastic..... we get Oden to brighten our day, then the front desk repeats the Jermaine O'Neal f**k up with Randolph.

Jesus Christ our franchise is lead by a bunch of morons....... Oden needed Randolph there as a guiding hand so to speak.

Steve Francis *sigh* what a waste of time. He'll get the sh*ts when Roy keeps toasting him in training......

I hope Jamaal can step up and do the job whilst Oden settles in. Here's hoping Darius comes back better than ever, and Brandon Roy continues on with his ROTY form.

I guess the positives are that we have one hell of a front court now, i'm gonna love watching Oden do his thing this year........ i only hope that Durant doesn't turn out to be the next major scoring weapon, as we all know what happened last time we had a pick in the top 3 of the draft....... Sam Bowie and Michael Jordan ringing any bells?
 

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osg said:
fantastic..... we get Oden to brighten our day, then the front desk repeats the Jermaine O'Neal f**k up with Randolph.

Jesus Christ our franchise is lead by a bunch of morons....... Oden needed Randolph there as a guiding hand so to speak.

Steve Francis *sigh* what a waste of time. He'll get the sh*ts when Roy keeps toasting him in training......

I hope Jamaal can step up and do the job whilst Oden settles in. Here's hoping Darius comes back better than ever, and Brandon Roy continues on with his ROTY form.

I guess the positives are that we have one hell of a front court now, i'm gonna love watching Oden do his thing this year........ i only hope that Durant doesn't turn out to be the next major scoring weapon, as we all know what happened last time we had a pick in the top 3 of the draft....... Sam Bowie and Michael Jordan ringing any bells?
Oden needs Randolph and Miles there like a hole in the head. Randolph is a bad influence, that's why the team got rid of Patterson, now Randolph and hopefully they can get Miles to disappear.

I hear Francis may be bought out so wouldn't worry too much about that, in any event he has an ETO next summer which he may take.

Seriously, your franchise is poised to become a contender, Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Frye is a solid core. And you know you need a good front-line in the West. You can't seriously complain when you just drafted the best big man in a decade.
 

Stonecutter

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The Spurs selected Tiago Splitter with the 28th overall pick and Marcus Williams with the 33rd overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft. In addition, San Antonio traded the draft rights of Giorgos Printezis to the Toronto Raptors in exchange for the Raptors second round pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.


source: an email from the spurs website.
 

McLovin

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Randolph stinks imo. Good on em for trying to get the "jail"blazer influence out of there before Oden arrives...
 

osg

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Tiger Hawk said:
Oden needs Randolph and Miles there like a hole in the head. Randolph is a bad influence, that's why the team got rid of Patterson, now Randolph and hopefully they can get Miles to disappear.

I hear Francis may be bought out so wouldn't worry too much about that, in any event he has an ETO next summer which he may take.

Seriously, your franchise is poised to become a contender, Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Frye is a solid core. And you know you need a good front-line in the West. You can't seriously complain when you just drafted the best big man in a decade.

Regarding Zach/Darius/Ruben "jail blazers".... yes i know the bad influence thing rears it's head again, but Zach was solid this year IMHO, and would have been a good foil for Oden. Having said that, Magloire i rate higher than Zach in overall talent, so he can fill that role, and LaMarcus is still maturing obviously. I just get nightmares over the Jermaine O'Neal trade still..........

I firmly beleive that if Nate looks after Oden properly, we may be seeing another big man in the mould of the current king - Tim Duncan.

It is indeed exciting times at last for the franchise, we haven't had a hell of alot to be positive about for the last decade, hopefully the influx of young, talented players mixed with some sensible older heads will make Portland attractive to prospective tradee's again.......
 

Mal Meninga

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Collingwood Storm said:
because the NFL draft goes over 2 days with over 200 picks
The first round would be nice. Atleast the NFL first rounders actually do something in their rookie year.
 

Panthers_God

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MC84 said:
Lakers sign some Euro player of the year...

Papolukas, anyone know of this bloke?


He's actually quite amazing!

I duno how he willl go in the NBA but he absolutely dominates the Euro league. He tore up the US in the recent world championships aswell.

I think hes about 6'6" from memory and hes a PG with a great shot and good driving strength.

I think he would be a good signing for any NBA team.
 

Stonecutter

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Draft Grades


EASTERN CONFERENCE
Atlanta Hawks: Surprisingly, Billy Knight and the Hawks didn't mess this one up. They made the safe pick in Al Horford at No. 3 and then went with another no-brainer by taking the highest-rated point guard still on the board in Acie Law IV.
Grade: B


Boston Celtics: It's no secret that Danny Ainge likes to wheel and deal. This time he dealt a worn-down Wally Sczerbiak, backup combo guard Delonte West and the fifth pick (Jeff Green) for a soon-to-be 32-year-old Ray Allen coming off a pair of ankle surgeries. Ainge also nabbed a second-rounder in the deal and went out and drafted Gabe Pruitt and Glen "Big Baby" Davis with the Celtics two second-round picks.
Grade: C+

Charlotte Bobcats: Michael Jordan should be popping champagne. The Bobcats owner watched as he picked Brandan Wright with the 8th pick and proceeded to deal him to Golden State for athletic wing Jason Richardson. The franchise also got cerebral forward Jared Dudley with No. 22 — the ACC Player of the Year who will be a valuable piece.
Grade: B+

Chicago Bulls: The Bulls already have a terrific young nucleus with Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich in the backcourt and Luol Deng up front. Ben Wallace isn't getting any younger and while he's not quite as physical, Joakim Noah (No. 9) will bring a similar intensity in the middle. Chicago also drafted plodding big man Aaron Gray in the second round, which was worth the flyer.
Grade: B

Cleveland Cavaliers: The Cavs didn't have a pick in the draft. If I were them, I would have shipped out Drew Gooden for a barber.
Grade: Incomplete

Detroit Pistons: Joe Dumars was a small-school guy coming out of McNeese State, so it's no surprise he went with Eastern Washington combo guard Rodney Stuckey with the 15th overall pick. Stuckey is a guy who could eventually be the next Chauncey Billups. The Pistons also took Arron Afflalo late in the first round at No. 27.
Grade: C+

Indiana Pacers: I think Larry Bird might have gone back to French Lick or something. Then he woke up and made a huge move — he acquired the household name of Stanko Barac for a second round pick next year.
Grade: Who Really Cares



Miami Heat: The Heat needed help for Shaq and D-Wade. They added Daequan Cook in a flip of picks with the 76ers. Miami also dealt Stanko Barac, the 39th pick, to Indiana for a second-rounder next year.
Grade: C-

Milwaukee Bucks: The Bucks fell in love with the Workout Wonder. Yi Jianlian doesn't know much about Milwaukee — other than the fact that he's been told he doesn't want to go there. This marriage will end in divorce. However, the Bucks did rebound well by getting point guard Ramon Sessions in the second round.
Grade: C+

New Jersey Nets: Let's face it. There's more than a few guys in the league that smoke marijuana. The bottom line is that no one except for Greg Oden has the ability to change the game defensively in this draft like Williams. He's a freak athlete and Jason Kidd will love him. Great risk-reward pick by the Nets.
Grade: B+

New York Knicks: Wilson Chandler at No. 23 is a reach — just like Renaldo Balkman was a year ago. But the bigger news was the deal that sent Stevie Francis and Channing Frye to Portland for Zach Randolph and a bag of balls (sorry Dan Dickau). Just imagine Randolph in New York City.
Grade: D+

Orlando Magic: It was a non-descript draft for the Magic, who got North Carolina forward Reyshawn Terry in the second round.
Grade: C+

Philadelphia 76ers: Solid, but not spectacular. They got three solid pieces, but it won't be enough. They needed to deal two of them and get into the Top 10. Thaddeus Young will take a few years to develop, Jason Smith is a serviceable and skilled big man and Derrick Byars can be a quality piece.
Grade: C

Toronto Raptors: Zippo for the Raptors.
Grade: Incomplete

Washington Wizards: Gilbert Arenas is threatening to leave after his contract expires — and the Wizards addressed it already by bringing in another cocky, ex-Pac 10 standout. Nick Young is bigger and has some of the same scoring ability.
Grade: B


WESTERN CONFERENCE
Dallas Mavericks: The Mavs got Nick Fazekas early in the second round and a pair of Europeans whose names I can't pronounce. Fazekas runs like my grandmother (sorry, Nana).
Grade: C

Denver Nuggets: The Nuggets were inactive.
Grade: Incomplete

Golden State Warriors: Dealing Jason Richardson for Brandan Wright. Wow. Terrible move. NBA folks like Wright because of his length, but Don Nelson won't like how soft he is. Then the Warriors went with Marco Belinelli, the 6-foot-5 guard.
Grade: C

Houston Rockets: The Rockets went with Aaron Brooks at No. 26 overall, which was somewhat of a reach. They went for Aussie shooter Brad Newley.
Grade: C+

Los Angeles Clippers: OK, I can't believe I'm saying this — but the Clippers had a terrific draft. They took Al Thornton at No. 14, who will compliment Elton Brand and Corey Maggette well, and then got a solid floor leader in Jared Jordan midway through the second round.
Grade: B+

Los Angeles Lakers: Now replacing Kobe Bryant is. ... Sun Yue. OK, so that's a stretch. However, the Lakers didn't fare all that well on Thursday night. Los Angeles took scoring point guard Javaris Crittenton and I'm not sold on this one because the Lakers already have Jordan Farmar. If Kobe is shipped out, it would be difficult to imagine Farmar and Crittenton together in the backcourt. It would be even tougher to imagine a Kobe-Crittenton backcourt.
Grade: C-

Memphis Grizzlies: This was Jerry West's Swan Song as the GM of the Grizzlies. He fell in love with Mike Conley Jr., because of his ability to make those around him better. Now the question is what they do with Kyle Lowry.
Grade: B


Minnesota Timberwolves:
The T-Wolves finished the night with Kevin Garnett still employed — and the perennial All-Star won't quite have enough help. He'll have a couple of winners on board, but that was in college. This is the pros. Corey Brewer can defend, but that won't help Garnett all that much. Chris Richard would be a terrific bodyguard for K.G.
Grade: C

New Orleans Hornets: The Hornets nabbed Julian Wright at 13th overall. He's not a great shooter, but he won't have to be with Chris Paul running the show. Paul, Wright and Tyson Chandler should be pretty lethal on the break.
Grade: B-

Phoenix Suns: The Suns just couldn't get into the Top 10, so they took Rudy Fernandez at No. 24 and traded him away for cash. Maybe now they can keep Shawn Marion. Steve Kerr and David Griffin also took Alando Tucker, who will look good down at the end of the bench.
Grade: D+


Portland Trailblazers: Kevin Pritchard was a busy guy, but only one thing mattered. He got his franchise player when he took Greg Oden numero uno. The other big news was the trade where he got Stevie Francis and Channing Frye from the Knicks and was able to unload Zach Randolph. Basically, he traded one problem child in Randolph for another in Stevie Franchise. He also added Josh McRoberts, Petteri Koponen, Taurean Green and Demetris Nichols. Someone may want to tell Pritchard this isn't the NFL.
Grade: A-

Sacramento Kings: It's true that the Kings are in dire need of quality size, but they needed athleticism up front. Hawes is skilled, but he's not overly athletic. We're torn on this one because Hawes can be a quality NBA player — it just might not be a quality fit.
Grade: C+

San Antonio Spurs: The Spurs love those imports. They took big man Tiago Splitter out of Brazil, but they won't see him in the states for another year. Marcus Williams was worth the risk in the second round. It's hard to question this franchise with its recent track record.
Grades: B-

Seattle SuperSonics: New general manager Sam Presti had a no-brainer with Durant at No. 2, but it was his trade that got our attention. The young boss wasn't afraid to take a risk by trading away aging shooting guard Ray Allen in a deal to Boston that brought multi-dimensional forward Jeff Green and role players Delonte West and Wally Sczerbiak. Who cares about Wally World. Green will be the third-best player to come out of this draft.
Grade: A-

Utah Jazz: Morris Almond at No. 25 and Herbert Hill in the second round. Not a bad night all things considered.
Grade: C+
 

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