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NBA Season 2009-2010

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Choppies

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Clippers throw another game away that could have easily been won. Is there a more useless franchise in NBA history?
 

Selachimorpha

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The Timberwolves & Grizzlies are pretty bad, and the Knicks have been making a hell of a run at the 'most useless' title the past decade, but no one can match the Clippers for generally being a pathetic embarrassment virtually their entire existence.

I feel bad for Eric Gordon being stuck there, hopefully he gets traded to a real team before too long.
 

Ridders

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What's even worse for the Knicks is that they wont even be rewarded for their mediocrity as they don't even have possession of their first round draft pick next year (Utah has it)
 

Choppies

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What's even worse for the Knicks is that they wont even be rewarded for their mediocrity as they don't even have possession of their first round draft pick next year (Utah has it)

I think they are going to be really let down with free agency at the end of the season. Why the hell would LeBron, Wade, Bosh and co go there?

The Clippers always seem to be re building. They seem to be going somewhere and then it's all over and back to a 20-30 win season the next season. :lol:

Timberwolves and Grizzlies are re-building. Grizzlies did make a wrong turn with Iverson IMO but still some good young talent there. Same with the Wolves.
The Clippers get a good player then after 3 or so seasons ship him off somewhere else for scrub players. Or they sign over the hill players who are there for a last pay day.
They are so sad that if you ever go to a Clippers home game there are more people wearing the opponents merchandise than Clippers merchandise. No one goes to see the Clippers. I have tickets to 2 Clippers games and I'm going to see the Spurs and Cavaliers. Not so much the Clippers. :lol: The Clippers are a real after thought.
 

Ridders

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If the salary cap drops next season, as it's expected to, NY will be no chance to lure a Lebron or Wade because the only way they are going to the Knicks is if another superduperstar is joining as well. Miami has recently been getting alot of buzz as a place where Lebron might go.

There's even been rumours of Lebron, Wade and Bosh creating their own Dream Team somewhere. If this was ever to happen, the rest of the NBA might as well just give up.

I feel a bit for the Clippers. There was so much optimism going into this season, and then in true Clipper style, their No.1 pick breaks his kneecap before he's even played a minute in the NBA. They are another team that's been talked about as a possible destination for Lebron due to their vast cap space, plus having nice young pieces to surround him with in Gordon, Kaman and Griffin plus a quality PG in Baron. Not to mention that he'd be playing in one of America's biggest markets. In the end, it probably wont happen simply because they are the Clippers.
 

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I actually think Amarie is the most likely candidate to eventually join the Knicks. Imo they will not sign a Lebron, Wade, Bosh and as a result, the Knicks will have to throw their money at someone. Given the D'Antoni connection, lure of NY, and Sarver's cheapness, I could very well see Amarie go the the Big Apple.

I'm, quite confident that NY will miss out on the Big 3 of Lebron, Wade, Bosh, unless they can somehow move either Curry's or Jefferies contracts and in return get an expiring deal. Will be hard to see any team willing to help the Knicks out, and it's not like they have a draft pick to offer as trade bait.
 

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The Clips really need to get rid of Mike Dunleavy...He's a woeful coach imo. They have some pretty handy players...ffs, i could probably coach them to 30+ wins...
 

Ridders

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Haha.

What an organization. Isn't this the same guy where Indiana were paying him to stay away lol.

This is certainly going to make A.I want to come back more :sarcasm:
 

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Very pleasently suprised with the Pacers beating the Celtics today making their streak 4 now. Dahntay Jones is really playing higher than expected and pairing well with Granger which I believe makes Mike Dunleavy JR expendable.
 

The Dodger

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just watched the warriors and bucks game.

forget stephen curry, if jennings doesnt get rookie of the year, ill cut my left testi off.
 

Ridders

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Possible trade

Updated: November 16, 2009, 10:46 AM ET
Sources: Warriors, Bobcats in serious talks

It appears that disgruntled Golden State Warriors forward Stephen Jackson could be Charlotte-bound. The Warriors have entered into advance trade discussions with the Bobcats on a deal that would send Jackson to Charlotte in exchange for veteran swingmen Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic, according to NBA front-office sources. The Cleveland Cavaliers have long been considered the favorites to land the Warriors' former captain in the wake of Jackson's trade demand late in the summer, but ESPN.com reported earlier this month that Charlotte had quietly registered serious interest in Jackson and could not be dismissed as a threat to acquire him.
Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com.
 

Ridders

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It's now confirmed

Warriors trade Jackson to Bobcats

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The Golden State Warriors have banished disgruntled forward Stephen Jackson to Charlotte.


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In a deal that NBA front-office sources said came together quickly Sunday night and received the needed league approval Monday morning, Golden State sent Jackson and guard Acie Law to the Bobcats in exchange for veteran swingmen Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic.
The teams announced that they completed the deal, first reported by ESPN.com, shortly after 11 a.m. ET.
The Cleveland Cavaliers had long been considered the favorites to land the Warriors' former captain in the wake of Jackson's trade demand late in the summer, when the 31-year-old announced that he hoped to be dealt to the Cavaliers, New York Knicks or one of the three Texas teams.
But ESPN.com reported earlier this month that the Bobcats had quietly registered serious interest in Jackson and could not be dismissed as a threat to acquire him.

With its offense badly in need of a boost after failing to reach 80 points in five of its nine games so far, Charlotte has been exchanging proposals with Golden State for some time. But the Bobcats were determined to make the deal without parting with playmaking big man Boris Diaw.
The Warriors, meanwhile, had reached the point where they had to move Jackson in the first palatable trade offer they could strike in the name of team health, fearful that Jackson's discontent and uncertain future would continue to hang over a group of promising youngsters headlined by Stephen Curry and Anthony Randolph.
So Golden State wound up settling for long-term payroll relief in exchange for its former captain and franchise cornerstone as well as some short-term depth to get through the injury loss of Kelenna Azubuike over the weekend.
Bell's $5.3 million contract expires at season's end, while Radmanovic is earning $6.5 million this season and due to earn $6.9 million next season. Jackson is earning $7.7 million this season before starting a three-year contract extension worth nearly $28 million.

Yet it remains to be seen how Jackson will respond to the trade, given that one of his motivations for asking out was the chance to play for a contender. His original wish list of teams included Cleveland, New York and the three Texas teams.
"He's happy about the trade, delighted about the trade," Jackson's agent, Mark Stevens, told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "This is what he wanted, a new start, and this gives him a chance to compete. Plus, he's a huge fan of that team's president, Michael Jordan." Stevens also said Jackson was expected to be in uniform for the Bobcats Monday night against Orlando.
ESPN.com reported earlier Monday that one scenario Cleveland and Golden State discussed would have involved the signing-and-trading of ex-Cavaliers forward Wally Szczerbiak -- most likely packaged with troubled guard Delonte West -- in a deal for Jackson.
Szczerbiak is a free agent after the Cavs elected not to re-sign him and recently underwent minor knee surgery. But the 32-year-old has not ruled out trying to make a comeback this season and would appear to be fully eligible to be plugged into a deal by the Cavs in a manner similar to Dallas' signing-and-trading of Keith Van Horn in February 2008 in the Mavericks' complicated trade to re-acquire Jason Kidd.
But the Cavaliers ultimately decided that they were not ready to go forward with a deal for Jackson so early in the season. Golden State, meanwhile, had only intensified its efforts to find a trade partner in the midst of a 3-6 start and after Jackson's agent, Mark Stevens, harshly criticized Warriors coach Don Nelson in an interview with ESPN.com last week.
Marc Stein is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher contributed to this report.
 

Ridders

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Interesting approach by Charlotte. They trade Chandler for Okafor presumably to save on money in the long term, yet they take on Jackson who has a 3 year-28 million extension that kicks in next season.

Good move by GS. Sure they lose out from a talent perspective, but keeping Jackson would only have done further damage to the team's young core.
 
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