New recruits for 2023

[Old Timer]

I think the term “rebuild” is an excuse to allow teams to be shit for a few years. Just look at the Cowboys. They turned it around in 1 year. When Bennett came to us, he made us a powerhouse in his first year.

It often only takes the signing of 1 or 2 players that compliment your existing roster to take a team from being very average to very good.

It is obvious that not all signings that are intended to do that actually work out and therefore you remain mediocre despite what was considered to be a season changing signing.

 

[I'm Hornby]

I think the term “rebuild” is an excuse to allow teams to be shit for a few years. Just look at the Cowboys. They turned it around in 1 year. When Bennett came to us, he made us a powerhouse in his first year.

The cowboys played their first game of finals last night since 2016. Yes there was a change of coach but all in all it has taken them a long time to get back to rebuild back to the finals picture.

We were there or thereabouts for a long time before Bennett came to the club as well, the job he had on his hands then was a picnic compared to the job Hook has had on his hands since the start of season 2021.

Like has been illustrated by True Believer, rebuilds do take time.

 

[Kiwi Dragon supporter]

Can people stop quoting Wikipedia as a source. Anyone can edit it and it is not legitimate in anyway shape or form.

I have found that Wikipedia over the years has become less accurate and in some cases opinion based. I would not hold it as the fountain of truth.

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

The cowboys played their first game of finals last night since 2016. Yes there was a change of coach but all in all it has taken them a long time to get back to rebuild back to the finals picture.

We were there or thereabouts for a long time before Bennett came to the club as well, the job he had on his hands then was a picnic compared to the job Hook has had on his hands since the start of season 2021.

Like has been illustrated by True Believer, rebuilds do take time.

nah. Sometimes a rebuild can take a few years. But sometimes, teams are smart enough to turn it around in a year.
I think if we had bought Hynes and Funooken instead of Dad’s army last year, we’d be in the top 8 this year.

what really f**ked us this year was the inept signings

 

[I'm Hornby]

nah. Sometimes a rebuild can take a few years. But sometimes, teams are smart enough to turn it around in a year.
I think if we had bought Hynes and Funooken instead of Dad’s army last year, we’d be in the top 8 this year.

what really f**ked us this year was the inept signings

Every team has their own unique set of circumstances mate.

My view is that unfortunately the circumstances holding us back run a lot deeper than a quick fix with a new coach and a couple of players.

 

[True_Believer]

I think the term “rebuild” is an excuse to allow teams to be shit for a few years. Just look at the Cowboys. They turned it around in 1 year. When Bennett came to us, he made us a powerhouse in his first year.

Ah but I think Brownie did all the heavy lifting in the years before. As Bennett himself said, he just had to tweak the roster as we already had a pretty good team.

Cowboys are a little different. I believe their fortunes (and that of the Broncos) were benefitted from good junior development. I mean Payten only had to really bring in a good experienced half to get them moving forward. Same as the Broncos. They didn't go hard recruiting a lot of quality across the park, really their key signing was Reynolds. Both teams have been bringing through their juniors in the previous years successfully. And the fact that the QLD cup was allowed to play last year has been beneficial for a number of teams - Cowboys, Broncos, Storm etc. I mean that's why Payten went to the Cowboys - the junior talent and the way they have brought them through would have been a very attractive proposition for him. The whole production line has already been setup and maintained. He just had to tweak it (via Townsend) to get the best out of them. I mean they only had to sign 2 players in 22 to get the results. As a result they haven't had to sign anyone new for 2023 either. They've just extended a couple of existing contracts.

We haven't been very successful in junior develop for many years now and the KOE cup being cancelled for the last 2 years hasn't helped our position. And this is what I think Webb is trying to establish. We shouldn't forget that he's only been on board for a couple of years now - came on during the last year of McGregor. I think the CoE is a huge step in the right direction.

Panthers is a great example of what we should be aiming for. But it does take time to get the right structures in place.

 

[Inisai Toga]

Ah but I think Brownie did all the heavy lifting in the years before. As Bennett himself said, he just had to tweak the roster as we already had a pretty good team.

Cowboys are a little different. I believe their fortunes (and that of the Broncos) were benefitted from good junior development. I mean Payten only had to really bring in a good experienced half to get them moving forward. Same as the Broncos. They didn't go hard recruiting a lot of quality across the park, really their key signing was Reynolds. Both teams have been bringing through their juniors in the previous years successfully. And the fact that the QLD cup was allowed to play last year has been beneficial for a number of teams - Cowboys, Broncos, Storm etc. I mean that's why Payten went to the Cowboys - the junior talent and the way they have brought them through would have been a very attractive proposition for him. The whole production line has already been setup and maintained. He just had to tweak it (via Townsend) to get the best out of them. I mean they only had to sign 2 players in 22 to get the results. As a result they haven't had to sign anyone new for 2023 either. They've just extended a couple of existing contracts.

We haven't been very successful in junior develop for many years now and the KOE cup being cancelled for the last 2 years hasn't helped our position. And this is what I think Webb is trying to establish. We shouldn't forget that he's only been on board for a couple of years now - came on during the last year of McGregor. I think the CoE is a huge step in the right direction.

Panthers is a great example of what we should be aiming for. But it does take time to get the right structures in place.

Couldn’t agree more and where you highlight that the QLD Cup continued through Covid is so much under played in many assessments. Huge factor imo.

 

[BLM01]

The cowboys played their first game of finals last night since 2016. Yes there was a change of coach but all in all it has taken them a long time to get back to rebuild back to the finals picture.

We were there or thereabouts for a long time before Bennett came to the club as well, the job he had on his hands then was a picnic compared to the job Hook has had on his hands since the start of season 2021.

Like has been illustrated by True Believer, rebuilds do take time.

I think you will find they went from 8th to a GF in 2017

 

[Parko1310]

Rumours online stating we are in the box seat to sign Spencer Leniu from Penrith from 2023

I can’t find any articles online linking us to Leniu anywhere, would you be able to send an article link? Cheers.

Great signing if true, I’m just concerned knowing we’ll overpay more than even we need to and that the club will hang their hats on one good signing and ease their pursuit of Robson. Plus, they should be going for Tapine too.

 

[mickeylane]

God I’d give Cody Walker whatever he wants to come to the dragons.. one man backline genius.. what a player

 

[I'm Hornby]

I think you will find they went from 8th to a GF in 2017

Ah yep got 2016 and 2017 mixed up.

 

[getsmarty]

Dragons' 2023 coaching personnel confirmed

The St George Illawarra Dragons have confirmed several key coaching appointments ahead of the 2023 NRL Telstra Premiership season.

www.dragons.com.au

 

[justadragon]

The cowboys played their first game of finals last night since 2016. Yes there was a change of coach but all in all it has taken them a long time to get back to rebuild back to the finals picture.

We were there or thereabouts for a long time before Bennett came to the club as well, the job he had on his hands then was a picnic compared to the job Hook has had on his hands since the start of season 2021.

Like has been illustrated by True Believer, rebuilds do take time.

Agree mostly with what you are saying, but there were distinct KPI's that hook signed up to and unfortunately failed in all of them.

 

[justadragon]

God I’d give Cody Walker whatever he wants to come to the dragons.. one man backline genius.. what a player

I think he still needs players around him to make him look that good Mickey, and unfortunately the Dragons dont have them.

 

[baggygreen man]

Rumours online stating we are in the box seat to sign Spencer Leniu from Penrith from 2023

Spencer Leniu

The NRL profile of Spencer Leniu including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

His stats. Bit weak in the metres per game. We already have one of them in Francis Molo. Not sure how he was given a three year contract.

 

[Parko1310]

Spencer Leniu

The NRL profile of Spencer Leniu including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

His stats. Bit weak in the metres per game.

I think you'll find that's because penrith use him as an impact player off the bench. His minutes are pretty low. His metres stats per minute played are pretty good. The thing you then have to consider I suppose is can we carry two of these players as Francis Molo's minutes are also pretty low?

 

[baggygreen man]

Perhaps this big dude would be a better bet for the future.
Franklin Pele. Big hulking bloke but only one top grade game. Not listed in Sharks Ressies.. then must have played for Jets Flegg last season.. So no stats. Great!

Biog: Aussie born, 21, is a former Australian Schoolboy, has come through the Sharks Academy system to reach top 30 spot on their roster. Physically imposing front rower and damaging runner, tips the scales between 125/130k (I call him a monster).

 

[baggygreen man]

can we carry two of these players as Francis Molo's minutes are also pretty low?

Was thinking he is a Molo clone. Yet we have him for another two years. Another inspired piece of recruiting by our R/R team.

 

[St Tangles]

Perhaps this big dude would be a better bet for the future.
Franklin Pele. Big hulking bloke but only one top grade game. Not listed in Sharks Ressies.. then must have played for Jets Flegg last season.. So no stats. Great!

Biog: Aussie born, 21, is a former Australian Schoolboy, has come through the Sharks Academy system to reach top 30 spot on their roster. Physically imposing front rower and damaging runner, tips the scales between 125/130k (I call him a monster).

Signed to Doggies

 

[baggygreen man]

Signed to Doggies

Rumor or fact? He'd have been the ideal impact forward off the bench against a tired defense.
Our R/R team are so slow off the mark.