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The Colonel

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DaleyIsGod said:
LMFAO I remember a while ago someone came into our forum saying we had signed NBQ...hilarious.

I think the Tigers are just keen to get rid of him..... as yet there has been nothing official from either club - and if I were the Tigers I would announce that as soon as I could!
 

JessEel

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nothing that smithy does suprises me anymore, we have enough talent on the wings so obviously, HELLO?? we must be DESPERATE for nbq
 

Misty Bee

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Ron Jeremy said:
The bloke is crap!!!, fair dinkum im better then him!!
Yeah, but Ron, your'e a legend!

(And I bet you CD collection is a lot better than his too ;-) )
 

Stagger eel

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I can reveal ladies and gentlemen, that NBQ will not be at the club next year as he is going to St George, this came from a very reliable source. Therefore Goleel and Jake can now stop squeeling about signing a useless player because we all know that they know so much about player talent.

I get so fed up with idiots like them who seem to want voice their disapproval of young footballers who may want to regenerate their careers by signing with a great club like ours. I'm sure These so called experts did the same when blokes like Shifcofske, Tookey, Dunley, Horsnell and Hopkins looked for opportunities to be part of a winning culture.

Oh and by the way. We are apparently talking to Mal Kafausi about a part time contract for next year. if ofcourse thats allright with Goleel and Jake.
 
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Eelavation I have one question, Do u want Parra to win the comp? If your answer is yes then f**ked up players such as your mate NBQ is not for Parra.

I don't know about u but im sick and tired with reserve grade shit from other clubs coming to our club. Ok idiot.
 

Stagger eel

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wasn't Jason Taylor a researve grade shit before he signed with us????? signing a bloke for a coffee and doughnut at the end of November will do 2 things

1] Give a bloke an opportunity to be part of a winning culture!! different enviroment does wonders to people.

2] Add depth and competition to the squad!! baring in mind he was never going to be part of the first 25 but only a part time player making your phobic attitude seem stupid.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I could of easily voiced my dis aproval of your opinion a week or so ago but I thought why bother. Then when I heard the good news lastnight I thought I'd share it with you darlin!!!

One of the few people I really respect on this sight is young Jeseel!! who is one of the very few supporters who gets of her arse and supports all grades with great passion. I'd like to ask you how many First Division and Jersey flegg games did you see this year???...and also you didn't answer my original question and that is is it allright that we speak to Mal Kafuasi for a contract next year??
 

Stagger eel

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oh!! and yes I'd love to see my team win a comp!!...but NBQ wouldn't of been signed to do that for us he would of been signed to provide the first grade team with a half decent back up for Graham, Burt, Lyon, Fresh, Peterson, Grothe and Kata.

The 25 fulltime players would of been chosen weeks ago so therefore if we signed 1 more researve grade player or 10 players on incentive deals in December how would that be detrimental to the team???...to me that would only add more depth and competion for places during the season. Make sence doesn't it...sweety!!
 
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Sorry pumpkin it doesn't make sense, Why bother signing and wasting money on a crap player such as NBQ when we can promote a younger player from the Juniors?
 

Stagger eel

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I can tell you know it wouldn't make any difference to any young player coming through!! the likes of Matt Lantry, Simon Greaves, Luke Shatte, John Williams, Wade Russell and Brett Delany [heard of them??] will be given an opportiunity! but I predidct 1 or maybe 2 if we're lucky of those players mentioned will make it in the NRL and NBQ, Wise Kata, Wade McKinnon or any other player will not stand in their way!!...just remeber where Luke Burt, Killer Lyon, Fresh, Ash Graham, Michael Witt, Cayless, Hindy and Vella started their first grade careers!! so you can rest assured no player will be held back if their ready.
 

Goleel

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I've seen enough of NBQ to know he isn't a first grade calibur player, he's had so many opportunities at the Tigers, and hasn't capitalised on any of them. He is prone to mistakes and bad decisions. Why would I want this player at our club? He's had his chances, and I'd much prefer if he got yet another one somewhere else other than the Eels. If he succeeds, good on him, he'll have proved me wrong, but I really don't want guys who have blown so many opportunities somewhere else having a possible chance to play first grade for the club I support.

As much as I'm impressed about your knowledge of our lower grades and junior ranks, does it make you feel like a more passionate and dedicated Eels supporter than the rest of us because you can throw names a lot of people would not of heard of up in conversation? It seems like it, since I personally see no other reason for the name dropping you've done other than to try and one up the rest of us.

Sure, Killer, Burty, Ash, et al., all got their chances through the lower grades here, but the big difference is these guys had natural talent that anybody could recognise. They got their first grade chances and made the most of them, most of them haven't looked back at the lower grades since they made their breakthrough, whereas NBQ has shifted in and out of firsts regularly, unable to replicate any type of form in the top grade. I'm all for juniors and young guys getting their chances, but I'd rather not sign certain players, and NBQ is one of them.

Mal Kafusi, is another. Given chances, but never taken them. He played at the Roosters, last year, didn't he? A winning club, and what did he do? Despite the roosters suffering some injuries in the pack (Robinson, Cusack, Payten and Catic all spent time off the field this year) he never even looked like playing first grade. We saw what can happen this year when young guys come into grade to fill in for injuries rather than guys taking their umpteenth chances (Armit, Tsoulos, Ash, Witty) and I think we should stick with that rather than buying average premier league players to pad out the roster.

All in all, I approve of a lot of the guys we've signed, but sometimes things just get a bit ridiculous, and signing NBQ is pushing that border, so forgive me for disliking us signing nothing players, but where you see it as giving them a chance, I see it as giving them yet another chance.
 

Stagger eel

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You covered alot of ground there Goleel thats good, but I never for one moment suggest your more passionate than I am as a supporter however I still stand my ground by saying that Jesseel is probably up there with Planet, Nikki, MITS and I suppose HJ as the most passionate and dedicated supporters at the club.

As for NBQ! at the end of the day I don't really whether he signs or not what gets up my nose is that we seem to sign mediocre or opportunists players everyyear and the same anguish comes out from supporters who don't like them even before they wear our jersey. Some of those players turn out to be excellent investments some don't .

Brian Smith made a vallent point when he was inteviewed by big league this year about the player market. He went on to say some players need to move from club to club to find a perfect enviroment. which would make them better players. Ned catic is a classic example he spent 7 years at Penrith and couldn't nail a top 17 spot, but at the roosters this year he started of the bench on a number of matches and ended playing in a grand final, ironically against his old club. other notable mentions include Chad Robinson, Lee Hopkins, Scott Donald, Preston Campbell, Richard Villasanti, Kirk Reynaldson, Mat Sing, Phil Bailly and even Bryan Fletcher is played his football of his career with the wooden spooners.

Not for one moment am I saying that NBQ would turn out to be that sort of player all I'm saying is if signs for a chocolate Milk and piece of cake what else have we got to lose and who cares after all if he did sign with us you'd probably never see him in a Parramatta NRL jersey as you'd probably turn up just before kick of for first grade or watch on pay TV or free to air.
 

half

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great argument fellas. you've both raised some super points

the problem with signing someone like nbq is he would more likely be the next kusto, opposed to the next hopkins
 

Stagger eel

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Look thats fine if the guy signs with us and turns out to be a dud he'll be iether warming the bench in prems or running around with our feeder club who ever that will be???...the fact remains he will not make an ounce of difference on the sallery cap and won't stand in the way of any young talent coming through. plain and simple.
 

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Goleel said:
Sure, Killer, Burty, Ash, et al., all got their chances through the lower grades here, but the big difference is these guys had natural talent that anybody could recognise. They got their first grade chances and made the most of them, most of them haven't looked back at the lower grades since they made their breakthrough, whereas NBQ has shifted in and out of firsts regularly, unable to replicate any type of form in the top grade. I'm all for juniors and young guys getting their chances, but I'd rather not sign certain players, and NBQ is one of them.

Mal Kafusi, is another. Given chances, but never taken them. He played at the Roosters, last year, didn't he? A winning club, and what did he do? Despite the roosters suffering some injuries in the pack (Robinson, Cusack, Payten and Catic all spent time off the field this year) he never even looked like playing first grade. .

Y'all have credable points in your arguement. I would add though that John Morris and Lee Hopkins last year, were two blokes who couldnt hold down regular first grade spots in their previous clubs, and Hopkins was coming from one of the poorest perfroming clubs. These two probably prevented the likes Steve Witt and Wheeler getting first grade opportunities, but no one would be grudge their signings now as they were probably were our two most consistant performers in 03.

And Kafusi only came to the Roosters late in the year after being deported, so he was never really going to contribute at a first grade level.

As for NQB he wouldnt so much have been preventing young guys from getting a chance in first grade, as preventing young guys like Hinchcliffe a chance at playing Div 1.
 

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eelavation said:
Look thats fine if the guy signs with us and turns out to be a dud he'll be iether warming the bench in prems or running around with our feeder club who ever that will be???...the fact remains he will not make an ounce of difference on the sallery cap and won't stand in the way of any young talent coming through. plain and simple.
ben kusto, paul green, dallas weston and steve crouch

duds who i'd prefer brian smith never had the option of selecting
 

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