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New South Wales 2016

Valheru

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1 try assist though so all in all still better than your average Pearce origin performance. Pearce has 15 games worse than that and still doesn't have a line through his name.

The truth is Reynolds has been no better than Pearce in either of his performances yet he escapes blame unlike Pearce.

Pearce has produced the exact performance Reynolds has on numerous occasions and still copped the blame. Reynolds on the other hand is still being hailed as the saviour.

He is junk.
 

gUt

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As a Qld fan I can't agree. Reynolds seems a lot more of a threat than Pearce ever has.
 

BranVan3000

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The truth is Reynolds has been no better than Pearce in either of his performances yet he escapes blame unlike Pearce.

Pearce has produced the exact performance Reynolds has on numerous occasions and still copped the blame. Reynolds on the other hand is still being hailed as the saviour.

He is junk.


When we see a blooper reel of Reynolds to match Pearce's that statement can be made
 

betcats

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The truth is Reynolds has been no better than Pearce in either of his performances yet he escapes blame unlike Pearce.

Pearce has produced the exact performance Reynolds has on numerous occasions and still copped the blame. Reynolds on the other hand is still being hailed as the saviour.

He is junk.

You are kidding yourself Reynolds has been better imo. Pearce' worst performances for NSW are a long way below what Reynolds has produced, a long way. When Reynolds starts bombing overlaps consistently I will put him in the Pearce class.
 

Bgoodorgoodatit

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I cant agree either. I feel he was pretty solid and worth persevering with.. lets face it we don't really have many other choices at the moment. Pearce hasn't been as bad as some have made out but he has had his chance.

We really need to drop all the deadwood from the last 6-7 years for the dead rubber and get some guys like Cartwright Tedesco Bird frizell wade peats James some experience. start planning for the future now . unfortunately I can see that happening.

we've got the makings of a dangerous side there... just unfortunate that QLD have the three best game managers in the NRL all in the one team at the same time.
 

ceagle

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Jennings and Masnour's side has leaked all but one of Queensland's tries this series, they have both got to go.
 
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The following article was published earlier on the Sydney Morning Herald's website -

State of Origin 2016: NSW Blues have the wrong culture - and the wrong leaders

Date: June 23, 2016 - 9:33AM
by Phil Gould
League Columnist

New South Wales tried hard. They always try hard. No one can ever question their physical efforts.

However, they were beaten again, not so much by a better team, but by players who just know more about winning.

For the majority of last night's State of Origin encounter, the Blues were going much better than Queensland. You could feel them getting on top of their opponents on several occasions throughout the contest.

The problem is that every time NSW looked to be gaining the upper hand, they either shot themselves in the foot with a silly error, or they had the momentum taken away from them by one of the great generals in the Queensland team.

I don't know how many times over the past decade Blues fans have walked away from a losing Origin match and bemoaned to themselves, "If only we had Johnathan Thurston playing for us, we would've won that game".

Again last night, when the game was in the balance, the leadership of Thurston, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith produced the big plays for the big moments that ultimately determined the final result.

They own this Queensland team. They own its culture, its direction, its character and its results.

Mind you, they couldn't win these games on their own. Origin is a team game. They have a loyal, committed and courageous team of foot-soldiers around them. It's a tenacious, never-say-die band of brothers who give selflessly to the common cause.

They all have simple jobs and they execute their roles to the best of their ability regardless of pain, injury, fatigue or setback.

The key here though is that these workers trust their leaders implicitly. They never question a command, second-guess an instruction, argue a decision or seek to be more important within the team than the role they have been given.

The generals, Thurston, Cronk and Smith, appreciate their workers. They love them. They treat them with respect. They act as though they are forever grateful for the body of pain-staking work they produce.

However, when the big moments come around, it's the generals who take on the responsibility of giving their team direction, purpose and creativity.

They know where and how they can accumulate their points.

They dissect the NSW defensive line almost at will, whenever it's needed.

They point their teammates in the right direction and the workers respond with everything they have to give.

In game one of this series they soon worked out they only needed six points to win. Last night they produced three brilliant second half tries, all when NSW were starting to get too close on the scoreboard.

If Queensland needed two more tries to win, somehow I think they would've got them.

The fact that these leaders are also the playmakers within this team makes Queensland the championship team it has become.

NSW cannot match Queensland in this regard. For far too long now, NSW has been inhibited by a situation where its playmakers unfortunately play second fiddle to others within the team. The balance of power has been with the wrong people.

As a result, over the past decade, the Blues have not been able to generate a long-standing playmaker group that can consistently win them matches at this elite level.

Leadership has been in the wrong hands. It's been the wrong style of leadership, thus producing the wrong kind of culture. I'm not saying this after the event. I've been saying it consistently for the past six or seven series.

Don't get me wrong, I admire their output of work. They are tenacious workers in their own right. But thats what they are; just workers. They should never be the team leaders.

NSW had Queensland beaten on three or four occasions last night. They just couldn't reflect that on the scoreboard.

The emerging Blues players are almost ready to beat this Queensland team. They just need time in the middle and some self belief. They need to be given ownership of the campaign. Unfortunately this team will never realise it's true potential until it removes the players who have shown us year after year, that they can't beat Queensland.

The Blues were very brave. They can be proud of their efforts. However, Origin football is only about the final result. That's all they engrave on the winner's shield; the team that won.

Again it was Queensland.

They were too good on the night.
 

Walt Flanigan

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MG reckons this is the way to go for Game 3….

1. Tedesco
2. Mansour
3. Leilua
4. Dugan
5. Trbojevic
6. J. Bird
7. Maloney
8. Woods
9. Peats
10. Fifita
11. Frizell
12. Cartwright
13. Jackson

14. Moylan
15. James
16. Klemmer
17. Merrin
 

big hit!

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MG reckons this is the way to go for Game 3?.

1. Tedesco
2. Mansour
3. Leilua
4. Dugan
5. Trbojevic
6. J. Bird
7. Maloney
8. Woods
9. Peats
10. Fifita
11. Frizell
12. Cartwright
13. Jackson

14. Moylan
15. James
16. Klemmer
17. Merrin

jackson will tackle his heart out in the middle. just doesn't have the impact to hit the line and make a dent in it or put the qlders on the back foot.

but the general idea is good. it's a team that looks exciting on paper. the only way they'll sell tickets to a dead rubber. if daley goes into game 3 with mostly the same team as games 1 and 2, the stadium will be 3/4 empty.
 

Pete Cash

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Ive been pretty vocal that ennis is the best nsw eligible hooker right now and he should have played over farah but with the series lost id go a spine of

1. Tedesco
6. Maloney
7. ????? (It would be reynolds but typically out injured)
9. Peats
 

JT_

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Just get rid of Farah, Gallen, Jennings. Bird can probably go too.

Even though Moylan looked a bit out of his depth he still should be the fullback for the future.

I think Walker done okay as well, not as bad as I thought.
 

Danish

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You are kidding yourself Reynolds has been better imo. Pearce' worst performances for NSW are a long way below what Reynolds has produced, a long way. When Reynolds starts bombing overlaps consistently I will put him in the Pearce class.


Watching the same gif over and over again does not constitute bombing multiple overlaps.

Reynolds cost us game 1 with shithouse goalkicking - the primary reason he was selected. He tossed away possession and field position with terrible kicks in general play - the other reason he was selected.

NSW have performed in the exact same fashion over the past 11 years regardless of who has been in the 7 jersey. Clearly it's not the guy in the 7 who has been the problem
 

Jason Maher

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The ratings are in:

1. MATT MOYLAN: Struggled to make an impact. Appeared to shirk the tough job of performing kick returns at times. Must have felt like he?d been on the dancefloor with Gorden Tallis after being rag-dolled nine metres backwards into his own in-goal. Rating 5/10.
2. BLAKE FERGUSON: Defended well. Almost forced Dane Gagai into touch when the Queenslander scored his 80m effort in the first half. Despite combining well with Dylan Walker, missed three tackles as a result of the huge amount of traffic Queensland sent his way. Rating 6/10.
3. MICHAEL JENNINGS: Spilled the ball to give Dane Gagai the chance to run 80m in the first half. Messed up his defensive read and allowed Gagai to score his second try. Committed the most unforgivable error of the 2016 series when he knocked-on and butchered a certain try for Tyson Frizell. You can expect him to borrow a play from the Justin Hodges playbook and go into hiding ? much like he has in the centres for Parramatta this year. Rating 2/10.
14. DYLAN WALKER: Committed too many sins in front of the whistle blowers and thus handed out gifts to Queensland like Oprah after a trip to a car yard. Despite this, defended Inglis well. Rating 7/10.
5. JOSH MANSOUR: Carried the ball strongly out of his own end, but his opposite scored three tries. ?Nuff said. Rating 6/10.

6. JAMES MALONEY: Mixed night with the boot. His grubber should have resulted in a try to Tyson Frizell before Michael Jennings interrupted. His second half dash to out-pace Cooper Cronk and Justin O?Neill and score under the posts was a streak that even Wati Holmwood would have been happy with. Rating 6.5/10.
7. ADAM REYNOLDS: Beautiful run to split the Queensland defence and set-up Tyson Frizell?s try in the 57th minute. Just lacked class inside Queensland?s red zone and struggled to produce a threat on fifth-tackle plays. Rating 7/10.
8. AARON WOODS: Made meaningful runs and threatened to punch holes in the Queensland line at the times the Maroons were caught on the back foot. Also made some important tackles, including a couple try-savers on Darius Boyd. Rating 7.5/10.
9. ROBBIE FARAH: Straightened up the NSW attack and looked dangerous when NSW were on the front foot. Yet again, Wests Tigers fans will be ripping their hair out. Rating 7/10.
10. JAMES TAMOU: Barely seen. Seems certain to have his neck on the chopping block. No impact up front ? not exactly what Penrith fans were looking to see from the man they?ve just paid top dollar for. Rating 4/10.
15. TYSON FRIZELL: Impressive on debut. Showed admirable heart when he nearly chased down Gagai and would be a NSW hero if Michael Jennings didn?t get in the way. Rating 8/10.
12. JOSH JACKSON: Continually made key plays and did everything Laurie asked of him. Laurie should have asked for more. Rating 6.5/10.
13. PAUL GALLEN: A sad way for a proud warrior to be walking away from Suncorp Stadium for the last time. Overpowered by his Queensland rivals in the engine room. Will at least have the satisfaction of knowing he enticed Sam Thaiday into giving him an old fashion pile-driver that will rub out the so-called third-man-in for a couple games. Rating 5/10.
11. GREG BIRD: Always muscled up in defence, but sometimes you have to do more than that. Rating 6/10.
16. DAVID KLEMMER: This round goes to Josh Papalii. NSW was on top when Klemmer and Papalii entered the fray. They weren?t 10mins later. Rating 5/10.
17. ANDREW FIFITA: Gave NSW an attacking edge with his offload game, but was lacking in grunt when it really mattered. Rating 6/10.
18. JACK BIRD: A promising cameo that probably made Dylan Walker more nervous than Queensland. Put forward a reasonable case to remain in the side for Game 3. Rating 6.5/10.

Maloney deserves an 8. Was in everything good that we did. A dud pass over the sideline is the only mark against him. I just wish we'd kept him for 2014 (and picked Reynolds to partner him) instead of sacrificing him for Pearce's shitness. We'd be in a much better position by now. Jack Bird deserves a higher rating too. He threatened from the moment he ran onto the field.
 

sandshark

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Maloney deserves an 8. Was in everything good that we did. A dud pass over the sideline is the only mark against him. I just wish we'd kept him for 2014 (and picked Reynolds to partner him) instead of sacrificing him for Pearce's shitness. We'd be in a much better position by now. Jack Bird deserves a higher rating too. He threatened from the moment he ran onto the field.

Maloney was the only play-maker trying out there. Watch Pearce get another crack now.

Bozo and Daley will pick Maloney-Pearce for Game 3 if Reynolds is injured.
I'd go with J.Bird-Maloney.
 
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