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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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You mean for the first game there in years, with tickets starting at $10... and you are already worried...
Why would I be worried? A crowd of 17k would be good- that would be a sell out at shark Park- a current NRL team...anyway It's Newcastle v Warriors,2 teams who finished close to last last season at a less than optimal stadium. Newcastle's following or interest outside of Newcastle is 0 when they're playing good and I tip them for the spoon this year.
I wonder if the NRL headquarters are aware of all that...🤔🤣
I think you're worried it might be a decent crowd despite all those factors and make a strong case ! An outcry even! for NZ 2 🤔
I'd be worried if I was you!
 

Te Kaha

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Why would I be worried? A crowd of 17k would be good- that would be a sell out at shark Park- a current NRL team...anyway It's Newcastle v Warriors,2 teams who finished close to last last season at a less than optimal stadium. Newcastle's following or interest outside of Newcastle is 0 when they're playing good and I tip them for the spoon this year.
I wonder if the NRL headquarters are aware of all that...🤔🤣
I think you're worried it might be a decent crowd despite all those factors and make a strong case ! An outcry even! for NZ 2 🤔
I'd be worried if I was you!

It should be a crowd of at least 28K. Thats is the usual for the first time in years before trailing off... But you don't actually know anything about the NZ sporting landscape so you wouldn't know that.

And if they don't get 15K they will be losing money.

But thinking a first game in years in a location only getting "17K" after so long without a game, and then assuming there is enough support for a new team. Especially when there isn't a sufficient junior base to call on.
 

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You know, a trial in Christchurch then round 1 in Wellington...
It's almost like there's a case for a second NZ team being put forward 🤔 like a team based in Wellington playing a few games in Christchurch.. like Southern Orcas?

I'm sure it's pure coincidence 🤣
 

Gobsmacked

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It should be a crowd of at least 28K. Thats is the usual for the first time in years before trailing off... But you don't actually know anything about the NZ sporting landscape so you wouldn't know that.

And if they don't get 15K they will be losing money.

But thinking a first game in years in a location only getting "17K" after so long without a game, and then assuming there is enough support for a new team. Especially when there isn't a sufficient junior base to call on.
Neither team represents Wellington, so over 20k seems stunning to me.
And that’s what it will mean to NRL headquarters which is all that matters.
Central Coast have been banging at the door of the NRL for decades and they only pull on average 15k, which isn't bad, especially when that area isn't truly represented in the contest.
 

Te Kaha

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You know, a trial in Christchurch then round 1 in Wellington...
It's almost like there's a case for a second NZ team being put forward 🤔 like a team based in Wellington playing a few games in Christchurch.. like Southern Orcas?

I'm sure it's pure coincidence 🤣

It's the Warriors trying to drum up support alter the last few years.

Neither team represents Wellington, so over 20k seems stunning to me.
And that’s what it will mean to NRL headquarters which is all that matters.
Central Coast have been banging at the door of the NRL for decades and they only pull on average 15k, which isn't bad, especially when that area isn't truly represented in the contest.

When the Bulldogs bought their Warriors games to wellington the first one got 28K, then the next significantly less and the third less again. But you didn't know that. If it doesn't get near 28K then interest in League is definitely waning.
 

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It's the Warriors trying to drum up support alter the last few years.



When the Bulldogs bought their Warriors games to wellington the first one got 28K, then the next significantly less and the third less again. But you didn't know that. If it doesn't get near 28K then interest in League is definitely waning.
I’m glad I left this discussion when I did. Loved your comment on the NASA thread last night. What a demolition hahaha
 

Te Kaha

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I’m glad I left this discussion when I did. Loved your comment on the NASA thread last night. What a demolition hahaha

This thread is moot anyway. The next team won't be in NZ and will be in Perth, but some people can't let a bad idea go.
That Nasa thread was insane, who would believe that???
 

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It's the Warriors trying to drum up support alter the last few years.



When the Bulldogs bought their Warriors games to wellington the first one got 28K, then the next significantly less and the third less again. But you didn't know that. If it doesn't get near 28K then interest in League is definitely waning.
I guess you don't watch much league because if you did then you'd soon realise that how good the team is playing is kinda a big deal, like massively.
That's the entire spectacle, nobody wants to watch 2 shit teams 🤷‍♂️

The trial is Christchurch, even though it's only a trial will do well because it's the storm and they're a good team.

When teams play well, they get a crowd. It's that simple.
Neither Newcastle or Warriors have played well in years.
But sure, you're right. There hasn't been a game there for a long time and that's why it won't be 12k like any other NRL team that's going rubbish.
 

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I guess you don't watch much league because if you did then you'd soon realise that how good the team is playing is kinda a big deal, like massively.
That's the entire spectacle, nobody wants to watch 2 shit teams 🤷‍♂️

The trial is Christchurch, even though it's only a trial will do well because it's the storm and they're a good team.

When teams play well, they get a crowd. It's that simple.
Neither Newcastle or Warriors have played well in years.
But sure, you're right. There hasn't been a game there for a long time and that's why it won't be 12k like any other NRL team that's going rubbish.
We should make a rule for him

for every one nrl game he watches he can make 50 posts on here

that should keep him away
 

Gobsmacked

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We should make a rule for him

for every one nrl game he watches he can make 50 posts on here

that should keep him away
What's funny is his argument is I don't know anything about NZ but apparently it doesn't matter that he knows nothing about the NRL, Australia or Rugby league...
Like all the things that actually pull the levers for a new team..🤣
 

Te Kaha

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I guess you don't watch much league because if you did then you'd soon realise that how good the team is playing is kinda a big deal, like massively.
That's the entire spectacle, nobody wants to watch 2 shit teams 🤷‍♂️

The trial is Christchurch, even though it's only a trial will do well because it's the storm and they're a good team.

When teams play well, they get a crowd. It's that simple.
Neither Newcastle or Warriors have played well in years.
But sure, you're right. There hasn't been a game there for a long time and that's why it won't be 12k like any other NRL team that's going rubbish.

The Trial game wont do "well" because the stadium size is tiny, if that doesn't sell out its a bigger disaster than getting less than 28K in Wellington.
It's the first NRL game in the city in years, the first game of the season, NOBODY knows how well the teams are going dumbarse. If it's 12k or there abouts it wont even make money.

We should make a rule for him

for every one nrl game he watches he can make 50 posts on here

that should keep him away

That would require you being able to count. So that wont work.
 

Te Kaha

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What's funny is his argument is I don't know anything about NZ but apparently it doesn't matter that he knows nothing about the NRL, Australia or Rugby league...
Like all the things that actually pull the levers for a new team..🤣

BAHAHAHA i dare say i know more about the history of League than you do. But that is irrelevant, what is relevant is the ability to base an NRL team here. Which there currently isn't.
 

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The Trial game wont do "well" because the stadium size is tiny, if that doesn't sell out its a bigger disaster than getting less than 28K in Wellington.
It's the first NRL game in the city in years, the first game of the season, NOBODY knows how well the teams are going dumbarse. If it's 12k or there abouts it wont even make money.



That would require you being able to count. So that wont work.
Those is glass houses buddy
 

Gobsmacked

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The Trial game wont do "well" because the stadium size is tiny, if that doesn't sell out its a bigger disaster than getting less than 28K in Wellington.
It's the first NRL game in the city in years, the first game of the season, NOBODY knows how well the teams are going dumbarse. If it's 12k or there abouts it wont even make money.



That would require you being able to count. So that wont work.
Funny how Super Rugby gets crowds so poor that they don't want to keep a record is all roses but if a league game involving 2 wooden spoon contenders doesn't sell out a 35k stadium, it's a disaster...
You're a hoot
 

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