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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

docbrown

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I actually think what will happen down the track is the nz union sides will form league teams as well because there will be so much more money in rugby league

that would give the nrl two Auckland teams and the rest of the country covered as well

once the nrl salary cap hits 15 million plus then it’s how I think those union clubs react to that threat
I think you’re right. Though at most there would only ever be 3 and at most 4 NRL teams there. So the franchises that miss out will struggle in Super Rugby financially.

Highlanders and Crusaders could go 50/50 on a joint South Island team. Hurricanes could buy a Wellington team. Blues could set up a second Auckland side. So in that scenario Moana, Chiefs and potential Highlanders (if they don’t get part of South Island) could be the poorer teams.
 

Matua

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I actually think what will happen down the track is the nz union sides will form league teams as well because there will be so much more money in rugby league

that would give the nrl two Auckland teams and the rest of the country covered as well

once the nrl salary cap hits 15 million plus then it’s how I think those union clubs react to that threat
Dude, how can you continue to be this deluded? I know you've got a new fluffer in docbrown but having him as a hype man doesn't make any of your fanciful claims any closer to reality.

Well, at least this thread is good for laughs.
 

Wb1234

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I think you’re right. Though at most there would only ever be 3 and at most 4 NRL teams there. So the franchises that miss out will struggle in Super Rugby financially.

Highlanders and Crusaders could go 50/50 on a joint South Island team. Hurricanes could buy a Wellington team. Blues could set up a second Auckland side. So in that scenario Moana, Chiefs and potential Highlanders (if they don’t get part of South Island) could be the poorer teams.
The key ones would be Wellington and Christchurch

a second Auckland side would be nice too
 

Wb1234

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Dude, how can you continue to be this deluded? I know you've got a new fluffer in docbrown but having him as a hype man doesn't make any of your fanciful claims any closer to reality.

Well, at least this thread is good for laughs.
I know when it comes to all things rugby league you aren’t the most knowledgeable poster

But docbrown is the guru when it comes to rugby league expansion and tv deals

maybe if you are interested in how an Aussie dominated league competition will expand it would help to listen to Aussie league fans every now and then
 

Matua

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I know when it comes to all things rugby league you aren’t the most knowledgeable poster

But docbrown is the guru when it comes to rugby league expansion and tv deals

maybe if you are interested in how an Aussie dominated league competition will expand it would help to listen to Aussie league fans every now and then
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, add it to your delusions.

docbrown may be a guru about rugby league expansion deals and tv deals (I wouldn't know as I haven't come across him before) but he's as deluded as you if he thinks Super Rugby sides are going to switch to the NRL.
 

docbrown

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The key ones would be Wellington and Christchurch

a second Auckland side would be nice too
The NRL should basically split the country up into three zones. Auckland-Northland for Warriors (1.8 million), a South Island side (1.2 million) based mainly out of Christchurch with 1 or 2 Dunedin games, and then a side for the rest of the North Island side based mainly out of Wellington with 1 or 2 games in other North Island towns like Hamilton (2.3 million).
 

Wb1234

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The NRL should basically split the country up into three zones. Auckland-Northland for Warriors (1.8 million), a South Island side (1.2 million) based mainly out of Christchurch with 1 or 2 Dunedin games, and then a side for the rest of the North Island side based mainly out of Wellington with 1 or 2 games in other North Island towns like Hamilton (2.3 million).
In a perfect world that is the best solution to covering all of nz properly
 

docbrown

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, add it to your delusions.

docbrown may be a guru about rugby league expansion deals and tv deals (I wouldn't know as I haven't come across him before) but he's as deluded as you if he thinks Super Rugby sides are going to switch to the NRL.
He didn’t say they would switch. He said they “would form league sides as well”. Meaning a club like the Crusaders would have a Crusaders union side and a Crusaders league side.

Multi-sport franchises are the way of the future.
 

Colk

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The NRL should basically split the country up into three zones. Auckland-Northland for Warriors (1.8 million), a South Island side (1.2 million) based mainly out of Christchurch with 1 or 2 Dunedin games, and then a side for the rest of the North Island side based mainly out of Wellington with 1 or 2 games in other North Island towns like Hamilton (2.3 million).

Hamilton is fairly close to Auckland though. It’s only about an hour or so give or take.

Nevertheless I think you are broadly on the money - this should be the goal
 

Matua

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The NRL should basically split the country up into three zones. Auckland-Northland for Warriors (1.8 million), a South Island side (1.2 million) based mainly out of Christchurch with 1 or 2 Dunedin games, and then a side for the rest of the North Island side based mainly out of Wellington with 1 or 2 games in other North Island towns like Hamilton (2.3 million).
Setting aside the absolute delusion in your starting premise, you're yet another poster who is geographically challenged about NZ. Hamilton is an hour from Auckland, it makes no sense to attach them to a Wellington team.

He didn’t say they would switch. He said they “would form league sides as well”. Meaning a club like the Crusaders would have a Crusaders union side and a Crusaders league side.

Multi-sport franchises are the way of the future.
So NZR is going to create a Crusaders league team, bahahahaha.
 

Wb1234

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, add it to your delusions.

docbrown may be a guru about rugby league expansion deals and tv deals (I wouldn't know as I haven't come across him before) but he's as deluded as you if he thinks Super Rugby sides are going to switch to the NRL.
You know this is a thread about rugby league expansion and how tv can fund it ??
Setting aside the absolute delusion in your starting premise, you're yet another poster who is geographically challenged about NZ. Hamilton is an hour from Auckland, it makes no sense to attach them to a Wellington team.


So NZR is going to create a Crusaders league team, bahahahaha.
They need the money why not ? Lmao
 

Pneuma

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Multi sport franchises are nothing new. Interesting thoughts above. I get the cynicism but it is interesting
 

Matua

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You know this is a thread about rugby league expansion and how tv can fund it ??

They need the money why not ? Lmao
They don't need the money as much as you think they do.

Anyway, I'm heading out for a walk before I crack a rib from laughing so much at the cockamamie schemes being promoted by you lot. I'll check in on developments when I get back in.
 

Colk

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You know this is a thread about rugby league expansion and how tv can fund it ??

They need the money why not ? Lmao

The biggest obstacle with this happening is that these two sports are directly competing for talent.

It is a bit of a different situation to say a league/fumbleball team owning a netball team for example.
 

Colk

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Multi sport franchises are nothing new. Interesting thoughts above. I get the cynicism but it is interesting

I think it is interesting too but the problem with league/union is that they are directly competing for talent. Like I can see a league team buying an A-League team or a Big Bash side and I think it would be a good idea under the right circumstances, particularly the latter. Good chance for cross promotion.
 

Wb1234

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The biggest obstacle with this happening is that these two sports are directly competing for talent.

It is a bit of a different situation to say a league/fumbleball team owning a netball team for example.
Quins did exactly that in England

Broncos moved to their ground and adopted their name and colours
 

docbrown

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Setting aside the absolute delusion in your starting premise, you're yet another poster who is geographically challenged about NZ. Hamilton is an hour from Auckland, it makes no sense to attach them to a Wellington team.


So NZR is going to create a Crusaders league team, bahahahaha.
I’ve been to both cities as I have New Zealand relatives. The Warriors are unlikely to split many games to Hamilton. Your mindset is also limited. Both franchises could simply be called New Zealand Warriors and say New Zealand Orcas. People in Hamilton can then choose what team to support.

If Crusaders don’t want to expand their base then that’s On them. But more teams will become multi-sport teams as time goes on.
 

Pneuma

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I think it is interesting too but the problem with league/union is that they are directly competing for talent. Like I can see a league team buying an A-League team or a Big Bash side and I think it would be a good idea under the right circumstances, particularly the latter. Good chance for cross promotion.
Roosters could buy the Waratahs? It’d set up a nice Sydney Shield feeder team and would cost under $100,000 to purchase.
 

docbrown

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I think it is interesting too but the problem with league/union is that they are directly competing for talent. Like I can see a league team buying an A-League team or a Big Bash side and I think it would be a good idea under the right circumstances, particularly the latter. Good chance for cross promotion.
They also gain though from more easily switching players between their franchises to where those players are best suited. League clubs should be buying netball and A-League franchises.
 

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