New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

To the best of my knowledge it was the only comp that guarantees a return to clubs. Obviously nobody in their right mind would assume a anonymous poster on an internet forum would have an in depth knowledge of every single competition in every sport across the entire world and thier profitability... right ?
Did you? Did you think that highly of me?
Well thanks.

If the only comp that provides such guaranteed returns is the nfl then we are in rarified company indeed

nfl is the most successful football competition on the planet

Every nrl club now makes a profit on a stand alone basis in general (excluding gaming operations whilst afl clubs include these revenues)

there has been a turnaround of 100 million dollars from a collective loss of 50 million to a collective profit of 50 million

your basically seeing nrl clubs can survive on crowds of around 10k which makes it very easy for any new expansion club be it Perth or Christchurch

 

[Gobsmacked]

That's a long winded way to say "I was full of shit", just like my pretend residency in NZ

No, I simply made you do the work for me. Thanks.
One of the only competitions in the world that guarantees profitability.

 

[Perth Red]

Is there anywhere to see what the FY23 financial results of NRL clubs was?

Not out yet, we tend to get end of year announcements around now and full financial reports for some of them jan-March time. Unfortunately we only get around half the clubs reports made public.

 

[Perth Red]

So are you going to back up your statement, or just keep running away from your stupid claim? It's ok, you can admit it was bullshit.

It’s a stupid statement. we don’t even know if every nrl club is profitable or if some still rely on pokies and other revenue sources to make some sort of profit. Alas we dont get that level of visibility for most if our clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

If the only comp that provides such guaranteed returns is the nfl then we are in rarified company indeed

nfl is the most successful football competition on the planet

Every nrl club now makes a profit on a stand alone basis in general (excluding gaming operations whilst afl clubs include these revenues)

there has been a turnaround of 100 million dollars from a collective loss of 50 million to a collective profit of 50 million

your basically seeing nrl clubs can survive on crowds of around 10k which makes it very easy for any new expansion club be it Perth or Christchurch

You’ve just made all that up, you have no visibility of football club revenue or expenditure for any club other than broncos.

 

[The Great Dane]

Possibly the worst analogy I've heard.

The analogy works fine, and what you said was so incredibly stupid that I can't believe that you genuinely hold that opinion.

It's either a weak troll or you're simply not worth engaging with.

 

[The Great Dane]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/rival-codes-bold-move-in-new-zealand-puts-the-nrlto-shame/news-story/2377c1630d80d1d914c4581a94123724

Firstly, Auckland isn't the capital of NZ.

Secondly, what mistreatment of NZ RL exactly? The NRL and Australian RL have been the sole force that's prevented NZ RL from sliding into a tiny amateur niche sport with no mainstream penetration or appeal. What more exactly are they supposed to do for them? Take control of the whole sport by force and wipe their arses for them while they're at it?!

The Warriors didn't save anyone's anything during covid except their own hide, and it's more than a little harsh to blame the munted international eligibility rules on the NRL and Australia, especially when they effect Australia just as much as NZ, if not more. They literally define more than 60% of the Australian population as not genuine Australians FFS.

This whole article is a just nonsense victim narrative to place the blame for NZ RL's failings onto others.

 

[Maximus]

To the best of my knowledge it was the only comp that guarantees a return to clubs. Obviously nobody in their right mind would assume a anonymous poster on an internet forum would have an in depth knowledge of every single competition in every sport across the entire world and thier profitability... right ?
Did you? Did you think that highly of me?
Well thanks.

So when you said "literally the ONLY", you were actually referring to the fact it's "literally the ONLY" comp you know anything about.

Oh and your criteria for guaranteeing a return is solely about paying player salaries and ignores every other expense.

 

[Perth Red]

So when you said "literally the ONLY", you were actually referring to the fact it's "literally the ONLY" comp you know anything about.

Oh and your criteria for guaranteeing a return is solely about paying player salaries and ignores every other expense.

We done even know if every club is 'profitable' from a football club revenue point of view.
1. we havent seen 2023 financial results yet
2. we have little visibility on most clubs revenue and expense lines
3. a lot of them still get funding from their LC or other sources

Its a big call to say NRL club ownership offers a guaranteed profit lol

 

[Gobsmacked]

We done even know if every club is 'profitable' from a football club revenue point of view.
1. we havent seen 2023 financial results yet
2. we have little visibility on most clubs revenue and expense lines
3. a lot of them still get funding from their LC or other sources

Its a big call to say NRL club ownership offers a guaranteed profit lol

Not really, it would even be profitable in Perth.

 

[Perth Red]

Not really,

based on what? You're gut feeling? lol

 

[Matua]

Firstly, Auckland isn't the capital of NZ.

Secondly, what mistreatment of NZ RL exactly? The NRL and Australian RL have been the sole force that's prevented NZ RL from sliding into a tiny amateur niche sport with no mainstream penetration or appeal. What more exactly are they supposed to do for them? Take control of the whole sport by force and wipe their arses for them while they're at it?!

The Warriors didn't save anyone's anything during covid except their own hide, and it's more than a little harsh to blame the munted international eligibility rules on the NRL and Australia, especially when they effect Australia just as much as NZ, if not more. They literally define more than 60% of the Australian population as not genuine Australians FFS.

This whole article is a just nonsense victim narrative to place the blame for NZ RL's failings onto others.

Agree with most of that, the "opinion" piece is fairly idiotic.

Quite frankly for almost the entirety of their existence the Warriors have been an amateur shit show. This troll thread by Gob and Wb wouldn't get past a page in most years of the Warriors existence.


But I disagree with this:

They literally define more than 60% of the Australian population as not genuine Australians FFS.

It allows Australians to be both genuine Aussies (Origin) and non Aussies (PIs) at the same time.

 

[Wb1234]

We done even know if every club is 'profitable' from a football club revenue point of view.
1. we havent seen 2023 financial results yet
2. we have little visibility on most clubs revenue and expense lines
3. a lot of them still get funding from their LC or other sources

Its a big call to say NRL club ownership offers a guaranteed profit lol

If you ignore the articles which say nrl clubs make profits then you might have a point

maybe if you read such articles first it would help you make an informed comment for once

 

[Wb1234]

Not really, it would even be profitable in Perth.

Let’s watch him argue against the best point Perth has to get an nrl licence

 

[Wb1234]

Funding galore: NRL clubs set to receive record windfall

It comes as messy CBA negotiations continue.

www.zerotackle.com

“It's understood that under the expiring funding model, all clubs are now turning a profit, which will only grow further with the increase in funding to around $5 million above the salary cap.”

can’t say this about any other Australian sport

every soccer club loses money and a good number of fumblers too

 

[Wb1234]

Funding galore: NRL clubs set to receive record windfall

It comes as messy CBA negotiations continue.

www.zerotackle.com

“It's understood that under the expiring funding model, all clubs are now turning a profit, which will only grow further with the increase in funding to around $5 million above the salary cap.”

can’t say this about any other Australian sport

every soccer club loses money and a good number of fumblers too

A couple of years ago, the situation was very different for clubs financially. Clubs were making significant losses in aggregate, so it was important to provide a strong financial base for clubs.

“The funds available for distribution have gone up significantly.

“The clubs have never been stronger or more profitable.”

 

[Perth Red]

Funding galore: NRL clubs set to receive record windfall

It comes as messy CBA negotiations continue.

www.zerotackle.com

“It's understood that under the expiring funding model, all clubs are now turning a profit, which will only grow further with the increase in funding to around $5 million above the salary cap.”

can’t say this about any other Australian sport

every soccer club loses money and a good number of fumblers too

'It's understood'

well there you go, who needs data lol

 

[Wb1234]

'It's understood'

well there you go, who needs data lol

How come Essendon lose money when they have 90k members and average crowds of 40 to 50k

something doesn’t add up with these afl clubs

and they include 40 million of gaming profits as part of their revenues too

Victorian AFL clubs raked in $40m from poker machines last financial year | Gambling | The Guardian

Carlton, Essendon, Richmond and St Kilda continue to profit from pokies, drawing criticism from fans and gambling reform advocates

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Perth Red]

How come Essendon lose money when they have 90k members and average crowds of 40 to 50k

something doesn’t add up with these afl clubs

and they include 40 million of gaming profits as part of their revenues too

Victorian AFL clubs raked in $40m from poker machines last financial year | Gambling | The Guardian

Carlton, Essendon, Richmond and St Kilda continue to profit from pokies, drawing criticism from fans and gambling reform advocates

amp.theguardian.com

thats so untrue lol If they were making $40mill PROFIT from pokies they wouldnt have announced a loss!

https://resources.essendonfc.com.au/aflc-ess/document/2023/11/24/76790029-bcce-4c5d-9832-b55d8940c75b/2023-EFC-Annual-Report-Final-DigitalReady.pdf

but essendon has nothing to do with if ALL NRL clubs are now independently profitable from football operations

 

[Wb1234]

thats so untrue lol If they were making $40mill PROFIT from pokies they wouldnt have announced a loss!

https://resources.essendonfc.com.au/aflc-ess/document/2023/11/24/76790029-bcce-4c5d-9832-b55d8940c75b/2023-EFC-Annual-Report-Final-DigitalReady.pdf

but essendon has nothing to do with if ALL NRL clubs are now independently profitable from football operations

I’m showing how nrl clubs have better funding than afl clubs

where’s all that afl money gone

afl clubs shouldn’t be losing money when every nrl club makes money

something doesn’t add up