Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[Colk]

Didn't AFL knock back $600m from Paramount? That is more than Fox/Ch7 are paying

Super Rugby was getting $50m from Fox. Took $33m a year for the FTA coverage on Stan/9

Sometimes less is more when looking at the bigger picture

At least fumbleball marketed the whole thing so they can evaluate each and every option on the table. That is why they got such a better deal.

Also, people are not arguing whether or not fumbleball got more (they probably warrant a little more than RL because they are a national competition and we aren’t). What they are arguing about is the process of the negotiations (we didn’t put it out to open tender - that’s never a good call) and the size of the difference.

If the deal was still around 10% more which it has been regardless of all of these factors (these factors haven’t changed) and we put it out to open tender in order to do that, then this debate wouldn’t be occurring (some might be but it wouldn’t be as contentious)

 

[Iamback]

At least fumbleball marketed the whole thing so they can evaluate each and every option on the table. That is why they got such a better deal.

Also, people are not arguing whether or not fumbleball got more (they probably warrant a little more than RL because they are a national competition and we aren’t). What they are arguing about is the process of the negotiations (we didn’t put it out to open tender - that’s never a good call) and the size of the difference.

If the deal was still around 10% more which it has been regardless of all of these factors (these factors haven’t changed) and we put it out to open tender in order to do that, then this debate wouldn’t be occurring (some might be but it wouldn’t be as contentious)

RL has never done that, Dave Smith only did a deal with FTA on the last TV deal

The size of the difference I am happy to discuss when we know both deals.

NRL only say 'over $400m'. PVL said $400m cash so maybe the $425m rumours are correct but no actual figures yet

AFL on their own website lists Telstra as a partner. Included in that is wifi upgrades so purely on TV $643m isn't fact

 

[Canard]

Didn't AFL knock back $600m from Paramount? That is more than Fox/Ch7 are paying

Super Rugby was getting $50m from Fox. Took $33m a year for the FTA coverage on Stan/9

Sometimes less is more when looking at the bigger picture

Super Rugby isn't a major code in Australia, and the duopoly that is the AFL and NRL are the reason they got less.

It's AFL, NRL or nothing when it comes to the Australian sports landscape

 

[Steel Saints]

RL has never done that, Dave Smith only did a deal with FTA on the last TV deal

The size of the difference I am happy to discuss when we know both deals.

NRL only say 'over $400m'. PVL said $400m cash so maybe the $425m rumours are correct but no actual figures yet

AFL on their own website lists Telstra as a partner. Included in that is wifi upgrades so purely on TV $643m isn't fact

Yep, the NRL has never done a proper tender process. Smith and PVL went at it alone with one of the existing partners.

Also the NRL is getting nothing from a telco (Telstra).

 

[baselinepanther]

Didn't AFL knock back $600m from Paramount? That is more than Fox/Ch7 are paying

Super Rugby was getting $50m from Fox. Took $33m a year for the FTA coverage on Stan/9

Sometimes less is more when looking at the bigger picture

it was a 10 year deal from paramount , a bit too long for racistball
there would have been plenty of fluff in the paramount deal too , how much we don;t know
but it was 592 mill from foxtel/7 about 90 mill in puss .... but 3 years less in the length of the deal which ended up being critical...

 

[baselinepanther]

Also the NRL is getting nothing from a telco (Telstra).

neither is racistball .... in reality

 

[Wb1234]

What are you guys going on about

ten weren’t interested last time nor were seven

anyway it’s pretty clear networks are paying our biggest rival on the perception that it’s a national sport

the problem is one day they won’t

you can only ignore fundamentals for so long before the inevitable correction comes in

the challenge for afl is to make itself popular on tv in nsw and qld. Even if it’s only on pay tv

for rugby league they should focus on adding clubs which grow tv ratings so it’s Inevitable to pay off once those clubs get established

 

[Canard]

What are you guys going on about

ten weren’t interested last time nor were seven

anyway it’s pretty clear networks are paying our biggest rival on the perception that it’s a national sport

the problem is one day they won’t

you can only ignore fundamentals for so long before the inevitable correction comes in

the challenge for afl is to make itself popular on tv in nsw and qld. Even if it’s only on pay tv

for rugby league they should focus on adding clubs which grow tv ratings so it’s Inevitable to pay off once those clubs get established

This attitude is why the AFL got a foothold in League states in the first place.

RL people just arrogantly insisted they weren't a threat and did nothing to combat the millions they have poured into schools and facilities.

It shits me to tears.

 

[Perth Red]

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Where did I say it shouldn't increase? I said a $50-$75m increase is a realistic price. Chasing the $200m increase as some have mentioned will see the deal after go backwards

Won't result in the uptake and as is the case with some sports cricket, A League had a reduced deal. Now has almost vanished from TV.

Is going for $600m next up to drop back to $400m next deal due to declining ratings, Subs etc

Better then a steady increase?

That is what goes into these sort of discussions

Pretty sure exactly same was said last tv deal. you know, maxed out, no way we’ll see afl get over $400mill again, tv can’t afford it.

then when the rumours of afl Looking for over $500mill this time. Load of rubbish, never happen. Their dreaming. Remember that?

then that they were possibly getting $600mill which led to much guffawing on here! Some people on heres track records of predicting tv deals is not great!

given paramount were allegedly looking for a ten year deal it would seem tv aren’t too worried long term!

if Australian tv is willing to pay afl $550mill plus then with 18 clubs and a full nrlw plus origin and some long term international planning $500mill plus just from Australian tv should be very achievable, as long as it goes out to bidding.

if paramount want to offer us $575mill a year for ten years from 2028 id bite their hand off! That sort of long term funding guarantee allows the game to finally develop long term strategies for the game.

 

[Perth Red]

Afl got 500 million

if we get 70 million increase (which tbh is a low forecast) the two tv deals are equal

No they didn’t, they got somewhere around $570mill in tv deal alone cash and contra

since when did nrls $365mill Australian tv plus 70mill equal anything like $570mill?

maths not a strong point!

 

[Perth Red]

RL has never done that, Dave Smith only did a deal with FTA on the last TV deal

The size of the difference I am happy to discuss when we know both deals.

NRL only say 'over $400m'. PVL said $400m cash so maybe the $425m rumours are correct but no actual figures yet

AFL on their own website lists Telstra as a partner. Included in that is wifi upgrades so purely on TV $643m isn't fact

$365mill Australian tv value
$570mill Australian tv value

if it doesn’t end up being around that then I’ll be very surprised. We’ll never know exactly so I guess you can keep living in your bubble of denial.

 

[Perth Red]

Yep, the NRL has never done a proper tender process. Smith and PVL went at it alone with one of the existing partners.

Also the NRL is getting nothing from a telco (Telstra).

Which is the same problem RL in UK has. soccer scoops all the corporate and tv money, union get the scraps from the table and league gets the crumbs that fall on the floor.

 

[Perth Red]

neither is racistball .... in reality

Make your mind up! In your post above this one you reckon tv is only paying $500mil. Deal announcement is $570mill cash. According to you that would leave telstra paying $70mill cash lol. So which is it? Telstra paying $70mill cash or tv paying a hell of a lot more than $500mill?

 

[baselinepanther]

Make your mind up! In your post above this one you reckon tv is only paying $500mil. Deal announcement is $570mill cash. According to you that would leave telstra paying $70mill cash lol. So which is it? Telstra paying $70mill cash or tv paying a hell of a lot more than $500mill?

we will file the deal announcement under similar racistball announcements

7500 juniors in the inner west
actual number 653

180K participants in QLD
actual players & not school children forced into it during PE
8000

taking over western Sydney
actually only 1% of people playing sport in western sydney are racistballers

get the picture

 

[baselinepanther]

racist balls deal was originally reported as 3.5 mill in cash , then the story was withdrawn no doubt under threat by aflol against the publisher & the journalist shot ...
& a more palatable made up figure announced

Roy Masters reported it was loaded .. absolutely dripping .. with contra
Racistball can't control old Roy

not anyones fault that no one believes anything the aflol announce
they've been lying about everything for 30 years

something about a rod ....

 

[Wb1234]

we will file the deal announcement under similar racistball announcements

7500 juniors in the inner west
actual number 653

180K participants in QLD
actual players & not school children forced into it during PE
8000

taking over western Sydney
actually only 1% of people playing sport in western sydney are racistballers

get the picture

Study slams AFL's take-up figures in west

The AFL's boast of vast increases in participation numbers in western Sydney is misleading, according to a report commissioned by one of its key stakeholders.

amp.theage.com.au

AFL accused of exploiting figures

THE NSW/ACT AFL has been accused of exaggerating its registered players in the Leichhardt municipality, calling into the question the sporting body's numbers across Sydney.

amp.theage.com.au

 

[Wb1234]

racist balls deal was originally reported as 3.5 mill in cash , then the story was withdrawn no doubt under threat by aflol against the publisher & the journalist shot ...
& a more palatable made up figure announced

Roy Masters reported it was loaded .. absolutely dripping .. with contra
Racistball can't control old Roy

not anyones fault that no one believes anything the aflol announce
they've been lying about everything for 30 years

something about a rod ....

And fumble ball fans tried to say that report was wrong

you would think news ltd would know how much they are paying for the fumblers

 

[Perth Red]

we will file the deal announcement under similar racistball announcements

7500 juniors in the inner west
actual number 653

180K participants in QLD
actual players & not school children forced into it during PE
8000

taking over western Sydney
actually only 1% of people playing sport in western sydney are racistballers

get the picture

Ok if you don’t want to believe the offical announcement, announced to all stakeholders in front of the people paying the bills then there’s not much point discussing anything with you on the matter!

meanwhile people who have some common sense will understand that the afl are getting $570mill cash from the three partners in the deal. In all likelihood around $540-550mill of that cash will be from tv.

meanwhile our cash equivalent just from Australian tv will be around $340-345mill cash only.

 

[baselinepanther]

The kings of smoke & mirrors didn't tell anyone that an extra round ... 9 games a year or 63 games during the life of the deal were included .....& i have no doubt that'd be the minimum of extra content

what else is coming thats included but wasn't announced Gillion ?
2 more teams , 10 games a week for 24 rounds
an extra 25 games a year at some point before 2031 ?

all included
not announced

wouldn't trust em as far as one could throw em

 

[baselinepanther]

Ok if you don’t want to believe the offical announcement, announced to all stakeholders in front of the people paying the bills then there’s not much point discussing anything with you on the matter!

meanwhile people who have some common sense will understand that the afl are getting $570mill cash from the three partners in the deal. In all likelihood around $540-550mill of that cash will be from tv.

meanwhile our cash equivalent just from Australian tv will be around $340-345mill cash only.

its about 500 mill
the rest is fluff............as reported

racistball can spin their crap all they want ,
its their fault non koolaide sippers don;t believe anything they announce , 30 years of BS will do that