Next TV deal discussion 2028 -

[BuffaloRules]

A possible 3 conference NRL/SL comp would not be out of the question in the long term future. Especially if they can get the direct flying time down a bit.

No chance … I have said to you a dozen times that the SL can’t even expand 250kms down the freeway to London in over a century …. Damaged goods

 

[Iamback]

Does that not have considerable value though ? I remember the AFL media flogging themselves silly when they got to 18 teams including perennial basket cases GWS and Good Coast..,

I would think having say an extra Sunday night 6pm game a week trumps a longer season

No because you lose X amount of the higher drawing teams

 

[Iamback]

When we get to 20 or 22 clubs would be the time to look at it. This deal will all be about massive $'s so NRL will be very cautious re any significant structure change imo.

If the Int game keeps growing and the NRL comes up with more 'event' type successes this tv deal then 2033 may see something more radical with 20 clubs. If they do get more involved with SL its possible we could see NRL rounds replaced with Int club rounds, but that depends on how competitive the SL clubs could be.

A possible 3 conference NRL/SL comp would not be out of the question in the long term future. Especially if they can get the direct flying time down a bit.

The only way PNG benefits NRL is improving the International game. 2 games a year bashing up on Fiji doesn't do that. So more international is needed

 

[BuffaloRules]

No because you lose X amount of the higher drawing teams

Huh ? Who are you saying are the high drawing teams ? It certainly wasnt the Giants and Suns

 

[BuffaloRules]

Here is a comparison of the numbers when the AFL expanded to 18 teams in 2011 …$780m to $1.25B ….

AFL signs $1.25b broadcast deal

The AFL has signed a deal worth more than $1 billion that will see every match broadcast live on either free-to-air or pay TV and online for the next five years.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Iamback]

Huh ? Who are you saying are the high drawing teams ? It certainly wasnt the Giants and Suns

No. I am talking NRL going backwards by cutting rounds.

27 rounds for this deal.

Having 9 games a round but 22 weeks will be a sideways move as far as TV money goes

 

[taste2taste]

Having 9 games a round but 22 weeks will be a sideways move as far as TV money goes

The theory is less games = higher quality games = games are more important to win = bigger crowds and tv audience.

The NFL is the highest rating sport in America playing only 17 games, they’ve been very careful of not watering down their product and extending the season.

 

[BuffaloRules]

No. I am talking NRL going backwards by cutting rounds.

27 rounds for this deal.

Having 9 games a round but 22 weeks will be a sideways move as far as TV money goes

Let’s see if that happens …

 

[Iamback]

The theory is less games = higher quality games = games are more important to win = bigger crowds and tv audience.

The NFL is the highest rating sport in America playing only 17 games, they’ve been very careful of not watering down their product and extending the season.

Easy to do that with 330m people.

Townsville needs the Broncos and ideally the QLD teams every year. It is great for the area

The extra money Fox paid when the Dolphins came in was to get Broncos on more because they are such a huge club.

The less them, Souffs etc are on TV the less people watching to less valuable the product is.

I am all for reducing the length of the season but the trade off is you don't maximise such things as the TV deal.

Getting PNG good in test footy where you can run a quality 3 test series v NZ in the Origin standalone weeks, Is one way the gap can be covered elsewhere

 

[Wb1234]

Hypothetical time

Current deal 400 million cash
Nest tv deal 580 million cash

(Adjust as you think appropriate)

What does nrl does with the extra 180 million

How high does the cap go (what will be the top wages)

How much extra for clubs

Imo

Salary cap can be around 17.5 million to 20 million

Top wages 2 to 3 million pa

Clubs to get 7 million over the cap or a grant if 25 to 27 million

Rest would go to states and Arl profits

 

[Cactus]

Isnt there an agreement that a specific % of broadcast revenue is distributed to clubs ?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Buy a shitload of magic beans.

 

[Wb1234]

Isnt there an agreement that a specific % of broadcast revenue is distributed to clubs ?

Nope

They fix club distributions for the term of the tv deal same with the cap

Any bonus profits they make over budget gets split between arl clubs and players as a one off bonus payment

 

[Cactus]

Thanks for that info.

 

[taste2taste]

Salary cap can be around 17.5 million to 20 million

Top wages 2 to 3 million pa

Clubs to get 7 million over the cap or a grant if 25 to 27 million

Rest would go to states and Arl profits

Thats a big jump. That would make the NRL pkayers the best paid in any Rugby comp in the world. The highest currenty is the French Top 14 with a 17m cap

 

[The_Wookie]

Isnt there an agreement that a specific % of broadcast revenue is distributed to clubs ?

Currently clubs receive 130% of the salary cap. Its not broadcast revenue based.
However player wages in total will be linked to total league revenue (currently about 28%).

 

[Perth Red]

Hypothetical time

Current deal 400 million cash
Nest tv deal 580 million cash

(Adjust as you think appropriate)

What does nrl does with the extra 180 million

How high does the cap go (what will be the top wages)

How much extra for clubs

Imo

Salary cap can be around 17.5 million to 20 million

Top wages 2 to 3 million pa

Clubs to get 7 million over the cap or a grant if 25 to 27 million

Rest would go to states and Arl profits

Club baseline grant to $22mill (+$5mill a club) ($85mill a year extra) Cap goes to $15mill
Two new clubs costing $22mill a year extra (presuming the fed grant is covering full cost of PNG)
Full NRLW with increased cap and funding increased to $2mill per club = $23mill extra a year

That takes up $130mill a year. Plus CPI on all other expense and some more investment and that about spends it!

I would like to see some payments to clubs tied to KPI's though. ie attendance and full membership, social reach etc. Put some onus on the clubs to grow the game as well as part of the large uplift in payment.

 

[Wb1234]

Club baseline grant to $22mill ($85mill a year extra) Cap goes to $15mill
Two new clubs costing $44mill a year extra
Full NRLW with increased cap and funding increased to $2mill per club = $23mill extra a year

That takes up $152mill a year. Plus CPI on all other expense and that about spends it!

lol I forgot to include the grants to the 3 new clubs

15 million cap is decent but not high enough to get the best union stars

 

[BuffaloRules]

Next RLPA agreement due to start 2028 … expect a major ***fight over the new cash …

never a dull moment for PVL …earning that $150k

 

[Perth Red]

lol I forgot to include the grants to the 3 new clubs

15 million cap is decent but not high enough to get the best union stars

You have to be mindful of not going to high too quick with salary inflation. Currently $12mill so a 25% increase in salaries seems more than reasonable. No problem at all if NRL wants to fund the RLPA more so they can provide better heath insurance and hardship funding. AFL seems to do that much better than us currently.

Union stars? That should be lowest on our priority list lol.
I am in favour of a 3 year salary cap dispensation though for any player signed from outside the current ARLC or RFL systems.