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Next TV rights deal part 2

Are you happy with the new TV deal?


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Rothfield saying Gyngell never wanted to pay that much yet doesn't give credit to Smith for getting that much, apparently Gyngell was negotiating with himself when he decided to keep simulcasting rights open, not Smith, despite the option only available to fox if granted by the NRL. Rothfield really has no shame, speaking of which, shame on Greenwood for even getting the moron on.
 

Last Week

Bench
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Can't imagine Saturday 1:30pm coming into the mix unless expansion happens and there's a ninth game

That's what my post suggests.. The only changes from our current set up I'm suggesting is the second Friday game goes to Thursday, Monday night to Sunday night, and the 2pm and 4pm games on Nine. Saturday would stay as is and would only go to my suggestion should a ninth game happen.
 

Chief_Chujo

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That's what my post suggests.. The only changes from our current set up I'm suggesting is the second Friday game goes to Thursday, Monday night to Sunday night, and the 2pm and 4pm games on Nine. Saturday would stay as is and would only go to my suggestion should a ninth game happen.

Ahh sorry mate. Wasn't really paying attention and just skimming posts.
 

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Bench
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It's a NZ team that would kick off at 2pm local & have it shown east coast Aus at noon.

There's no sat 2pm game , 1.30 would be two hours earlier than the earliest current game. Which has an extremely poor crowd record.

If a Perth team came in though at least half of the games could be sat 9.30 live for the east coast.

Ah yes of course. My mistake. Quite tired today.

I know Saturday doesn't have a 2pm game right now. But Sunday does. NRL fans arent acclimatised to 130pm yet, but I think I'm just over concerned and fans will adjust fine.

And yes, a Perth team would give us those options, but how many realistically? 12 home games across a possible 9 time slots. We'll rule out Thursday and Friday night as that would mean a live broadcast on the east coast (majority of ratings), so 7. Unlikely they'll get all 12 on Saturday night.

I think the ideal kick off times for Perth are;

Friday
7:30pm local, 9:30pm eastern. (live double header, like what we have now, no Thursday night match. Maybe best in Origin weeks.)

Saturday
1:30pm local, 3:30pm eastern.
3:30pm local, 5:30pm eastern.
5:30pm local, 7:30pm eastern.
7:30pm local, 9:30pm eastern. (this match would negate the need for the 1:30pm game on the day)

Sunday
2pm local, 4pm eastern. (Nine)

And that's about it. The 4pm local kick off on Sunday will clash with the east coast news. Won't happen.
 
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There's still a big difference in the dynamics between Saturday & Sunday though. Hate to harp on it.

Fans are used to 2pm Sunday , but there's little else happening on Sunday's.

Only a minor thing but I'd be really careful about 1.30pm Sat.
 

BlueandGold

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There's still a big difference in the dynamics between Saturday & Sunday though. Hate to harp on it.

Fans are used to 2pm Sunday , but there's little else happening on Sunday's.

Only a minor thing but I'd be really careful about 1.30pm Sat.

Agree

Thursday
Live 7;30pm FTA/FOX then Footy Show.

Friday
Live 7:30pm FTA/FOX

Saturday
Live 3:30pm FOX/FTA
Live 5;30pm FOX/FTA
Live 7:30pm FOX/FTA

Sunday
2pm Live FOX/FTA
4pm Live FTA/FOX
7pm Live FTA/FOX

9th game
Sunday Perth time slot 6:30pm WA time, 8:30 eastern states 9 News then 9:30pm eastern seaboard Live FOX/FTA game.

Perfection.
 
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El Diablo

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News get Col for a quote again http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...k=c95d692c0ce2ec87ea6c69c28966c782-1447276817

Rights expert backs broadcast deal

The Australian
November 12, 2015 12:00AM
Brent Read
Senior sports writer
Sydney

One of Australia’s leading experts on media rights has backed plans to televise two live NRL games on Friday nights, a move that could end the stalemate between the ARL Commission and pay-TV provider Foxtel over broadcasting beyond 2017.

Colin Smith, a director of Global Media and Sports, also suggested the return of Optus to the sports rights market could have played a decisive role in talks between the ARLC and Foxtel reaching a watershed in recent weeks.

Smith, who assisted the NRL in previous broadcasting negotiations, believes the days of telecasting sport on delay are over, hence the desire of the ARLC and Foxtel to squeeze in an early game on Friday nights. It is understood that as part of their plan for the future — which is expected to net the commission upwards of $1.7 billion over five years — Fox Sports would showcase a live game at 6pm on Friday nights.

The game, which is likely to feature the New Zealand Warriors and the three sides from Queensland given their time zones, would replace the delayed game that has been broadcast on Friday nights.

“I think the days of delayed telecast of sport are over,” Smith said. “Live sport is absolutely critical these days. If they think that’s the best way they can do it, that’s a heck of a lot better than the current arrangement.

“Is it perfect? No. But I am not quite sure how you do it if you don’t do it this way. The early game on Friday night will have a bigger audience potentially than an afternoon game.”

News of the advance in talks between Foxtel and the ARLC comes only a matter of weeks after Optus made a shock return to the sporting market by picking up the rights to broadcast the English Premier League.

During the mid-1990s, Optus was a major player in rugby league but its interest waned. While Optus was unlikely to be in a position to bid for NRL rights, Smith has no doubt the company’s move to snatch the EPL from Foxtel played a part in advancing negotiations over rugby league.

“What has changed now is there is another player in the rights acquisition market who hasn’t been around for 10 years,” Smith said. “Now they’re back in — that’s Optus — which makes you think about competitive tension and keeping everyone honest. You now have some true competitive tension. There’s absolutely no doubt about it — everyone would have wanted to get this deal done fast.”

While the ARLC appears to be closing in on a deal that will quell mounting concern among its clubs, the code is set to finish well behind the AFL in terms of the size of its broadcasting rights. Smith believes that is a remnant of the decision to strike a deal with the Nine Network, a move that he believes went a long way towards undoing the good work carried out during the previous negotiations when News Corp’s first-and-last-rights clause was brought to an end.

“One of the brilliant things the NRL did last time was to get rid of the first and last rights,” he said. “By doing the deal early with Channel Nine, they re-created the first and last rights. The huge winner out of this is Channel Nine. They are the massive winner because they hold all the cards.”
 

beave

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Seriously, am I the only one losing my mind at these idiots commenting over this 6pm game and the comments about utilising QLD's lack of daylight savings?

It can be a f**karound in 2 ways.

1. 6pm kick off in QLD means the 2nd game won't start til nearly 9pm Sydney time on FTA.

2. 5pm kickoff (6pm sydney time) means you will get no one through the turnstile and no one watching on tv in QLD.

The sheer thought of either situation is lunacy. But I'm taking these comments with a massive grain of salt and not believing it but mentally assessing these comments and it just blows my mind every time at how dumb these media commentators seem to be.
 

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Seriously, am I the only one losing my mind at these idiots commenting over this 6pm game and the comments about utilising QLD's lack of daylight savings?

It can be a f**karound in 2 ways.

1. 6pm kick off in QLD means the 2nd game won't start til nearly 9pm Sydney time on FTA.

2. 5pm kickoff (6pm sydney time) means you will get no one through the turnstile and no one watching on tv in QLD.

The sheer thought of either situation is lunacy. But I'm taking these comments with a massive grain of salt and not believing it but mentally assessing these comments and it just blows my mind every time at how dumb these media commentators seem to be.

The fact that they don't even understand daylight savings proves it's bullshit.
 

Cletus

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One of Australia’s leading experts on media rights has backed plans to televise two live NRL games on Friday nights, a move that could end the stalemate between the ARL Commission and pay-TV provider Foxtel over broadcasting beyond 2017.
Stalemate? A couple of days ago it was a done deal.


“What has changed now is there is another player in the rights acquisition market who hasn’t been around for 10 years,” Smith said. “Now they’re back in — that’s Optus — which makes you think about competitive tension and keeping everyone honest. You now have some true competitive tension. There’s absolutely no doubt about it — everyone would have wanted to get this deal done fast.”
This is interesting in the context of News articles. They are actually admitting that there is another player out there and presumably they didn't know Optus were in the market so it will no doubt increase the price News are willing to pay. Although I'm sure they're the one who wants to get the deal done fast, the NRL will probably drag it out longer now:D.
 

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“I think the days of delayed telecast of sport are over,” Smith said. “Live sport is absolutely critical these days. If they think that’s the best way they can do it, that’s a heck of a lot better than the current arrangement.

“Is it perfect? No. But I am not quite sure how you do it if you don’t do it this way. The early game on Friday night will have a bigger audience potentially than an afternoon game.”
Old rent-a-quote must have just got up from a nap.

There is no longer a delayed game... Nine moved one Friday game to Thursday!

Here's a crazy idea of how you could do it, Sunday night!
 

no name

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Yeah that 'Qld Timezone' quote is shitting me to tears.
There will only be 4 weeks of it and during those 4 weeks it's actually an even more of a f**ked up idea than the whole f**ked up 6pm Friday concept itself.
 

CC_Roosters

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Seriously, am I the only one losing my mind at these idiots commenting over this 6pm game and the comments about utilising QLD's lack of daylight savings?

It can be a f**karound in 2 ways.

1. 6pm kick off in QLD means the 2nd game won't start til nearly 9pm Sydney time on FTA.

2. 5pm kickoff (6pm sydney time) means you will get no one through the turnstile and no one watching on tv in QLD.

The sheer thought of either situation is lunacy. But I'm taking these comments with a massive grain of salt and not believing it but mentally assessing these comments and it just blows my mind every time at how dumb these media commentators seem to be.

This
 

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