Next TV rights deal part 2

[RoosTah]

Can someone explain how Fox will make money attracting fans in pubs to watch the game at 6pm Friday nights?

Could they conceivably sell a subscription deal to the pubs for this one game?

Smells like BS to me...

Yeah, you'd think both the ratings and the crowds would massively suck because the ratings would be diluted by the number of people watching away from home. It'd be like the 5:30pm Super Rugby game, which rates about as shit as you can get in that comp without going to the South African time zones.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Can someone explain how Fox will make money attracting fans in pubs to watch the game at 6pm Friday nights?

Could they conceivably sell a subscription deal to the pubs for this one game?

Smells like BS to me...

Commercial rates for Fox are rather high.

The only thing that makes sense to me is they're worried about venues removing fox sports all together. Somehow this is an attempt to sure up that market?

 

[El Diablo]

Can someone explain how Fox will make money attracting fans in pubs to watch the game at 6pm Friday nights?

Could they conceivably sell a subscription deal to the pubs for this one game?

Smells like BS to me...

getting pubs to subscribe to Fox Sports

 

[Brutus]

News Ltd is talking as if they are conceding the Monday night game.

Newsflash: Monday nights are already gone from the next deal f**ktards!!! The NRL has already taken them from you.

 

[BuffaloRules]

getting pubs to subscribe to Fox Sports

I'm a tad cynical that a pub that doesn't already have Fox Sports is going to now subscribe in the hope of getting another couple of dozen patrons dropping by after work on a Friday for the Warriors v Sharks game...

 

[docbrown]

I'm a tad cynical that a pub that doesn't already have Fox Sports is going to now subscribe in the hope of getting another couple of dozen patrons dropping by after work on a Friday for the Warriors v Sharks game...

Their next offer will be 5 matches Monday to Friday starting at 5pm for Happy Hour

 

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NRL broadcast deal accelerated in wake of Dave Smith’s resignation as CEO
November 10, 2015 7:29pm
NICK TABAKOFF EDITOR-AT-LARGE The Daily Telegraph

IT was the meeting that put Fox Sports back in the NRL media rights picture. On one side was the NRL’s chairman John Grant, commissioner Graeme Samuel and NRL head of strategy Andrew Fraser.

Sitting opposite were News Corp’s local boss, Julian Clarke, his successor Peter Tonagh and Fox Sports CEO Patrick Delany.

But there was one notable *absentee at last Thursday’s secret talks at League Central in Moore Park: Dave Smith, despite being on the NRL payroll until the end of the month, was nowhere to be seen.

The absence of Smith has seen rapid progress in talks between the NRL and Fox on rugby league rights. It was Smith who ignored all advice and negotiated half a deal with Nine.

By giving Nine the round’s four best games each week, plus those games’ digital rights, Smith blindsided Fox and Telstra with one wave of the hand.

When Smith took away Fox’s Saturday and Monday night games, the fallout accelerated Smith’s departure from the game last month.

Unsurprisingly, his resignation almost immediately prompted a thawing of relations with News and Fox.

Since then, Samuel, Grant and Fraser have spearheaded talks to get the pay-TV deal done, with the willing input of departing Nine CEO David Gyngell.

It is understood last week’s meeting proposed a new Super Saturday deal for Fox — and a less anticipated Friday night 6pm game to replace Monday Night Football.

With no Smith, and pay-TV back in the equation, the NRL’s goal of a $1.8 billion-plus payday is back on.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...3829763?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Jatz Crackers]

he NRL?s goal of a $1.8 billion-plus payday is back on.

Uncle wupert wont like that inference Nick.

 

[siv]

Ch9 already moved their 2nd FNF game to Thu night

So I dont know where the comment about that comes from

Todays MNF game should revert to Sun NF at 6pm

Then if Fox still want MNF then they need to pay for a 9th game and fund 2 expansion teams

 

[Sydney Knight]

Uncle wupert wont like that inference Nick.

He doesn't care anymore now that he is busy with Jerry Hall

 

[Rosetta]

Ch9 already moved their 2nd FNF game to Thu night

So I dont know where the comment about that comes from

Todays MNF game should revert to Sun NF at 6pm

Then if Fox still want MNF then they need to pay for a 9th game and fund 2 expansion teams

It's Fox's desperate ploy to secure the rights for the Saturday game off Nein, they will give up MNF in the current broadcast deal so that Nein can move one of their current 2 Friday night matches to Thursday night for every round of next season.

The NRL would actually go along with this as they've given up on MNF, they just want it gone ASAP.

 

[RL The greatest game]

The simple fact of the matter is that Fox needs us more than ever now to keep the subscriptions going and to pay for the OTT price that payed for fumbelball.
If Murdoch doesn't get some NRL games he will look somehow to reduce the amount he pays to Vicky kicky house and cut his losses. A fact the dummies on bigfooty have woken up to yet,

 

[Last Week]

Ch9 already moved their 2nd FNF game to Thu night

So I dont know where the comment about that comes from

Todays MNF game should revert to Sun NF at 6pm

Then if Fox still want MNF then they need to pay for a 9th game and fund 2 expansion teams

They're proposing that the 6pm Friday game would only be on Fox.

They're complete morons. Not only are their articles full of holes, they're almost flat out lying. Smith in no way went against advice and negotiated with Nine separately. In fact, it's been reported that he actually was advised to negotiate separately. They're just flat out lying now and I hope that Grant brings it up in negotiations. There's lines you don't cross and News just keep on crossing them.

I think what we'll end up with something like this.

Thursday and Friday night matches on Nine.

Saturday
1:30pm - Fox
3:30pm - Fox
5:30pm - Fox
7:30pm - Fox

Sunday
2pm Nine
4pm Nine
6:30pm Fox

I would love to see the Sunday night match on FTA but I can't see that happening. Too much of an outlay for the networks for something they don't make money on, compared to what they have now (reality TV) which is cheap to put on, rates it's tits off nationally and makes money.

 

[Last Week]

Pretty sure Fairfax new just before it got announced. Anyway so your 100% confident that nothing that broke on 7 news tonight will happen? If so you seem a little naïve.
A new deal starting next season and 6pm Friday game were all mentioned by Gibbsy on 2UE in September btw he does not work for News. Joint venture between Macquarie and Fairfax.

Yeah? Got any proof of that or just guessing?

I don't know if it's true what 7 and some of the media are saying. I'm not going to pretend to be in the know like News hacks. What I do know is that all the media, specifically News, have been saying for months that they KNOW what the deal will be. They KNOW the specific dollar details of the deal. And yet, none of them KNEW about the deal with Nine before it was announced. None of them KNEW about the last deal before it was announced. None of them KNEW about the AFL deal before it was announced. Their information has so many holes in it it's not funny. Hell, the day the AFL deal was announced, they were off of the final figure by $500 million!!

Take an hour or so and think about it for as long as you need. No go on, take some more time and think about it one more time. Go back to the last deal. The day it was announced. Fox Sports or the Daily Telegraph didn't know the specific details about the deal until it was announced in the press conference. News are a media organisation, they could have leaked the deal to their broadcasters to maximize ratings but THEY DIDN'T.

Why? Because it stays in the negotiating room and gets announced by all the parties, together, when it's done. It's professional. News journalists are not professional. They're trolls. Trolls create interest and sell papers as well as getting hits. Ignore them. The guys up top though? The ones responsible for billion dollar deals? They need to remain professional. If they leaked things, they wouldn't be allowed to be responsible for big deals for any company ever again. They clearly can't be trusted so wouldn't be employed. Let alone they'd have to answer to Rupert.

 

[Doomednow]

Eh. I'm not convinced it's entirely wrong.

Can anyone tell me why the NRL are in such a hurry to bend over for Murdoch? After all the shit talking he did. Seems we could have easily made him sweat it out and thrn taken him to the cleaners, but instead we sack the CEO who's daring to get us value for money and go running back to the table to (allegedly) give him every game. It's f**king weak.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Rather than Friday 6pm, they should bring in a Perth team and let Fox have 12 games a year Fri/Sat at 9.30 pm ( 7.30 WA time).

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Can anyone tell me why the NRL are in such a hurry to bend over for Murdoch? After all the shit talking he did. Seems we could have easily made him sweat it out and thrn taken him to the cleaners, but instead we sack the CEO who's daring to get us value for money and go running back to the table to (allegedly) give him every game. It's f**king weak.

They aren't. Stop drinking the kool-aid.

 

[undertaker]

Eh. I'm not convinced it's entirely wrong.

Can anyone tell me why the NRL are in such a hurry to bend over for Murdoch? After all the shit talking he did. Seems we could have easily made him sweat it out and thrn taken him to the cleaners, but instead we sack the CEO who's daring to get us value for money and go running back to the table to (allegedly) give him every game. It's f**king weak.

With the emergence of Netflix et al. and with Optus recently winning the EPL rights, I do believe the ARLC need to take the gamble and wait another year before signing off on the remainder of the tv rights deal. I do believe more competitors (e.g. potentially Google, and other streaming services) will emerge on the scene within the next 12 months, and hence will force Fox to up their bid.

This so-called $1.85 billion figure is underpaying IMO. And I will completely lose all faith in the ARLC if they agree to this phony Friday 6pm match.

 

[Brutus]

John Gibbs has been hooked by the News LTD spin.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Was listening to triple m Brisbane in the car and they were commenting on the 6pm game. They think it's just a market tester to see how people react to a 6pm slot. Poor reaction would see it striked out