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Next TV rights deal part 2

Are you happy with the new TV deal?


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Nerd

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They had no idea about 9's deal.
No-one knew anything about the AFL's recent deal until the night before the very public announcement.
Last tv deal none of them knew about the NRL getting the F&L rights back.

On top of all that the whole point of the 4 FTA games is to give fans what they wanted and giving the NRL back control of the timeslots.

Grant sounded confident in his recent interview and the ratings say that Fox will need to pay up. Why would he or the ARLC agree to any of this?

Agree. The News hacks were about $250 million off the mark last time and had NFI about losing the F&L rights. The 6PM timeslot also doesn't make any sense. For the NRL to agree to that Fox would have to stump up some serious cash to compensate the clubs for the loss of crowds at the grounds.
 

BuffaloRules

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Nine can't sell shit to fox, they have to sell it back to the NRL who can then sell it to whoever they want at whatever price they want and they won't do that unless it's substantially worth their while, which means they gain more money from fox than they'd lose from Nine. Nine can't even sell simulcasting rights without the NRL first granting it, which they again wont unless it's substantially worth their while.

So if Nine don't want the Sat night game, I hope the NRL look at another FTA network then.

I was having another look at Wilsons article...

Apparently Nine had agreed to give up Sat night for $150 Million yet their contract had reduced from $925mil to $700Mil...

I think News are getting this story out a bit to fast to check facts...
 

applesauce

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That number cannot include streaming or NZ and here is why.

1.8b - FTA925m = 875million

875m - 200m digital - 100m NZ = 575m Pay tv

Fox Paid 550m the last Pay TV rights in 2012, thats an increase of 5m per year by this estimate.

That would be 115m a year compared to the AFL's 260m

:lol::lol::lol:

No chance of that happening.

When they simulacast the CH9 value drops to $800million (written in the contract). If they were to give back a Saturday primetime it may fall as low as $700million as Fox would compensate CH9.

Therefore going off your numbers:

1.8b - FTA700m = 1.1billion

1.1b - 200m digital - 100m NZ = 800m Pay tv

Fox Paid 550m the last Pay TV rights in 2012, thats an increase of 50m per year by this estimate.
 

BlueandGold

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When they simulacast the CH9 value drops to $800million (written in the contract). If they were to give back a Saturday primetime it may fall as low as $700million as Fox would compensate CH9.

Therefore going off your numbers:

1.8b - FTA700m = 1.1billion

1.1b - 200m digital - 100m NZ = 800m Pay tv

Fox Paid 550m the last Pay TV rights in 2012, thats an increase of 50m per year by this estimate.

Yeah my mistake missed that part.

So 160m a year compared to the AFL's 260m

Still no chance of that happening.
 

Johnny88

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f**k me swinging you're thick .
Every time news write some crap you go into panic mode .
Here's a hint .
They're full of shit .
Who's panicking dickhead your the biggest Dave Smith lover out there he's gone mate accept it.
I don't work for the NRL or NEWS. 3 different media outlets have said the same thing why don't you go just bomb News Corp and be done with it. :lol:
 

Last Week

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Who's panicking dickhead your the biggest Dave Smith lover out there he's gone mate accept it.
I don't work for the NRL or NEWS. 3 different media outlets have said the same thing why don't you go just bomb News Corp and be done with it. :lol:

And all media outlets were wrong when talking about the last deal. No media outlet knew about the Nine deal.

You're just gullible.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Even Massoud called it a "proposed" deal. That doesn't really mean anything, I'm sure there are lots of proposed deal. It just looks like more of the same and what makes it even more ridiculous is Seven announcing it rather than Nine. I'll believe it when I see it. I would love 2 sunday game but only if they're on Nine and there are 4 FTA games a week.

The early friday game strikes me as one of those bullshit demands made early on in negotiations that is then taken out at a price.
 

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When rothfield reported the new deal in August he suggested that Nine would get 1xthurs, 1xfri, 1xsun, fox would get 3xsat & 2xsun, he also said there were sticking points in negotiations over the NRL wanting an extra game on FTA and he suggested it would be on Ten, but having 4 FTA games would substantially reduce how much fox pays because "why would you subscribe to fox if you can get half the games for free".

That's what they were negotiating for in August, before the NRL had had enough of them ignoring their wish to put an extra game on FTA, and it's probably what they still want, this Friday 6pm crap is a tactic IMO and is why it was leaked by News Corp today. Wilson wrote the story, her brother works at seven alongside massoud...
 
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El Diablo

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El Diablo

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according to bourbs News blinked after they lost the EPL righrs

Gyncell had supposedly told the NRL to wait until they blink
 

Cumberland Throw

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So it looks like all bullshit by news at this stage...

But i think its safe to assume that if fox keep nrl, we are getting a full round simulcast on Pay

NRL would be crazy to rush into anything right now, let the pricks sweat over summer,

Just wish the clubs would tow the line and stay united for 6 months

Could be friggin $500M per year, if we stay strong
 

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proposed deal in early stages of possibly being considered and still yet to even consult Nine about any of it, Yet the telegraph are claiming it's a done deal and putting dollars to it, desperate much? :lol:

The deal won't be done through the f**king media.

NRL looks to seal broadcast deal for two Friday night games
JAKE MITCHELL
THE AUSTRALIAN NOVEMBER 11, 2015 12:00AM

Rugby league fans would have *access to two live Friday night games under a proposed broadcast deal designed to break a negotiating deadlock between the NRL and pay-TV channel Fox Sports.

The proposal involves Fox Sports broadcasting a 6pm Friday night game, which would be often played in Auckland, Brisbane or Townsville, while free-to-air network Channel Nine would televise an 8pm game.

Under the deal, which is in the early stages of being considered, Fox could secure as many as five live games, which could deliver the NRL $1.85 billion, including the free-to-air and digital rights.

An agreement for the pay-TV rights is expected in coming weeks. The deal would be contingent on Nine giving up its Saturday prime-time game to Fox, which is owned by The Australian’s publisher, News Corporation, for about $30 million a year, or $150m over five years.

Nine declined to comment.

It is understood the free-to-air network has not been approached with the proposal yet. But Nine is believed to be open to selling games to cut its NRL spending.

Fox lost its prime-time Saturday game when the NRL signed a $925m free-to-air deal with Nine, which gave it the four best matches of the round.

The deal was originally considered a good result for the NRL but it alienated Fox and was later trumped by the AFL, which *secured $2.5bn in total over six years.

The massive gap in value *between AFL and NRL rights, as well as growing tension with News Corp, is believed to have triggered former NRL chief executive David Smith’s resignation last month.

Former Nine chief executive David Gyngell, who handed over to new boss Hugh Marks this week, signed the NRL deal.

Fox also lost its exclusive Monday night NRL game in the recent deal.

Fox will not buy the NRL **pay-TV rights without reclaiming the prime-time Saturday night match.

Fox would also pay Nine about $15m a year for the simulcast rights to screen Nine’s Thursday, Friday and Sunday games under the deal.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...iday-night-games/story-fnca0von-1227603924958
 
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Johnny88

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And all media outlets were wrong when talking about the last deal. No media outlet knew about the Nine deal.

You're just gullible.

Pretty sure Fairfax new just before it got announced. Anyway so your 100% confident that nothing that broke on 7 news tonight will happen? If so you seem a little naïve.
A new deal starting next season and 6pm Friday game were all mentioned by Gibbsy on 2UE in September btw he does not work for News. Joint venture between Macquarie and Fairfax.
 

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Now it's "a deal comparable with the AFL", "$1.8 billion or more" & "close to $2 billion", keep climbing shit stains.

Game will be shot into new orbit by $1.8bn deal
THE AUSTRALIAN
NOVEMBER 11, 2015 12:00AM

John Grant has an appointment scheduled with the powerful group of NRL club chairmen in the middle of next week. In some quarters, the meeting has been viewed as make-or-break for the ARL Commission chairman.

Suddenly, it looks a lot more make than break. There seems a very real chance Grant may arrive at that meeting with $1.8 billion or more in his back pocket, courtesy of the broadcasting and digital rights for rugby league — more than enough money to silence those agitating for his head.

Things don’t look so gloomy now. More than a few within the game had taken the view that rugby league was rotting from the head. Former chief executive Dave Smith was widely viewed as the biggest stumbling block to the game realising its broadcasting potential and it cost him his job.

Grant was next in the firing line. But less than a month after Smith’s departure, rapid progress has been made. Reports suggest Grant and co are on the verge of striking a deal with Fox Sports to extend its coverage of the game well beyond 2018, piecing together a broadcasting agreement that threatens to take the game into a new orbit.

The landscape will change forever. An early game on Friday night, played generally in Queensland or New Zealand to take advantage of the accommodating time zone — daylight saving may confuse the cows but it has proved a godsend for rugby league — will mean viewers get two live games on a Friday night.

Fox Sports appears certain to retain its ratings winner on Saturday when it telecasts three consecutive games — Super Saturday is back. All games are likely to be simulcast on pay television, which will mean a slight reduction in the Nine Network’s $925 million outlay.

Regardless, the game appears certain to get what many believe it is worth — a deal comparable with the AFL.

It shapes as a victory for Grant, who was held just as culpable by some for the deal with Nine that alienated News Corp Australia powerbrokers.

Clubs were reconsidering their support of the chairman in the wake of recent talks over funding for next season and beyond.

As revealed in The Australian yesterday, the clubs had tabled nine demands, the most serious centring on funding in the future.

Between them, they lost in excess of $40 million this season once leagues club funding was removed. The average loss was $2.6 million despite two clubs — Brisbane and South Sydney — registering a profit in 2015.

Some clubs are their own worst enemies, spending beyond their means because they know they can rely on leagues club support. Others simply don’t have enough in the coffers. That, at least, is about to change.

A broadcasting deal worth close to $2 billion means they should be flush with funds like never before. So will the game, which could mean even more money trickles down to the clubs.

Among their demands is a proposal that the clubs get a 30 per cent share of any future profit by the NRL. Profit has long been a dirty word in rugby league. It may now be the norm rather than the exception.

No doubt the players will put their hands out for a share of the ever-increasing pie and they should be justly rewarded. Sam Burgess is already on his way back to Australia, touching down in the early hours of this morning as he returns to South Sydney.

The NRL should now set its sights on getting Israel Folau and Sonny Bill Williams back in the fold.

The game needs to take a good, hard look at expansion, with a second Brisbane side on the agenda. Issues still need to be resolved.

At least the NRL and clubs can ponder the future in the knowledge that they have money — and oodles of it — in the bank.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...bit-by-18bn-deal/story-e6frg7w6-1227603957966
 

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