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RoosTah

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I think we need to just call this what it is: a full scale war on our game by News Ltd.

When they lost their first and last rights after the last deal, the fall out was so massive at news that heads rolled at the top in Australia. Now the full results of that independence and the risks it poses have become clear, Murdoch has come here in person to rally his troops for a sustained assault on our game, which he now says he hates.
 
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News Ltd know they are screwed without NRL prgramming on their pay TV platform. They know with Dave Smith in control at NRL there is a chance they may lose NRL programming.

This is why there is a coordinated attack by News Ltd paid journalists. They want a change in leadership at the NRL. They want a leader who is able to be controlled, who will give up NRL rights for a song, a new Gallop.

Don't believe a word of their lies.
 

hutch

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News Ltd know they are screwed without NRL prgramming on their pay TV platform. They know with Dave Smith in control at NRL there is a chance they may lose NRL programming.

This is why there is a coordinated attack by News Ltd paid journalists. They want a change in leadership at the NRL. They want a leader who is able to be controlled, who will give up NRL rights for a song, a new Gallop.

Don't believe a word of their lies.

Brilliantly said! I'm stealing it haha!
 
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I'm not worried .
Smith, Grant & the ARLC have not blinked when staring down Uncle roopey.
They have brilliantly negotiated the game out of the clutches (F & L rights) of News .
Then gave them a big f**k you ,we will get the best deal with or with out you,& put news ltd into a corner .
I think weathering a propaganda campaign will be no problem .

My interest will be when things are finally settled & deals done ,will the ARLC then look at some payback to these news journos .

Cold shoulder .
No interviews .
Lol it gives me half a chubby thinking about it .
 

Nerd

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I'm not worried .
Smith, Grant & the ARLC have not blinked when staring down Uncle roopey.
They have brilliantly negotiated the game out of the clutches (F & L rights) of News .
Then gave them a big f**k you ,we will get the best deal with or with out you,& put news ltd into a corner .
I think weathering a propaganda campaign will be no problem .

My interest will be when things are finally settled & deals done ,will the ARLC then look at some payback to these news journos .

Cold shoulder .
No interviews .
Lol it gives me half a chubby thinking about it .

Yes you wouldn't imagine the vitriol and lies coming from News will be all forgotten once the rights are sorted. I live in hope there would be 1 or 2 journalists that will have their accreditation removed. I.E. losing entry to press conferences, losing access to the press box and restricted parts of the grounds at games.
 

Brutus

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News Ltd know they are screwed without NRL prgramming on their pay TV platform. They know with Dave Smith in control at NRL there is a chance they may lose NRL programming.

This is why there is a coordinated attack by News Ltd paid journalists. They want a change in leadership at the NRL. They want a leader who is able to be controlled, who will give up NRL rights for a song, a new Gallop.

Don't believe a word of their lies.

I shall steal this as well. Well said buddy.
 

docbrown

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This will be a confirmation of the long suspected but apparently Fox Sports were stalling the negotiations. Changing their minds on different issues, offering different things then taking them back to create an atmosphere of total confusion.

The 9-Fox offer Rothfield reported on was a stalling attempt to get the NRL to reconsider/delay their decision but it never had 9's endorsement at all.

As we know the NRL started negotiations early to preempt a Fox-10 noncompetitive bid. The NRL got wind that Fox were going to delay until the ACCC approval then pull out of the 9 offer.

Then Fox would have refused to partner with any other F2A network. There would have been no expansion. No Saturday Night on F2A. Monday nights would remain. No reduced season/stand alone origin. No extra F2A coverage. Telstra would be forced onto the NRL as a digital rights partner. Plus the price would be $1.7 billion and the AFL would still have signed for $2.5 billion.

Now News Limited are trying to get the 9 deal broken.
 

Cletus

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This will be a confirmation of the long suspected but apparently Fox Sports were stalling the negotiations. Changing their minds on different issues, offering different things then taking them back to create an atmosphere of total confusion.

The 9-Fox offer Rothfield reported on was a stalling attempt to get the NRL to reconsider/delay their decision but it never had 9's endorsement at all.

As we know the NRL started negotiations early to preempt a Fox-10 noncompetitive bid. The NRL got wind that Fox were going to delay until the ACCC approval then pull out of the 9 offer.

Then Fox would have refused to partner with any other F2A network. There would have been no expansion. No Saturday Night on F2A. Monday nights would remain. No reduced season/stand alone origin. No extra F2A coverage. Telstra would be forced onto the NRL as a digital rights partner. Plus the price would be $1.7 billion and the AFL would still have signed for $2.5 billion.

Now News Limited are trying to get the 9 deal broken.

That makes a lot of sense and would explain why Rupert was so pissed off. I think the ACCC would be nuts to let News buy into Ten. They've already killed off One as a sport channel despite saying they wouldn't, imagine what they're going to do once they have even more influence. After failing to shift the rights to Ten last time I'm sure they would have made it a certainty this time.
 

Cumberland Throw

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If us NRL fans are gonna have a crack at every afl person who says. "Our TV deal is 2.5 times as big as nrl "

We need to acknowledge that we can't compare fox ratings between nrl and afl ...

A lot of their games are simulcast by different states.

So the swans v giants would have been shown nationally on fox and in Sydney on seven mate.

Do we honestly think if last night's game was shown on fox and CH 9 at the same time it would still get 340k viewers on fox ??
 

RoosTah

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Just spotted this article from back in March regarding ESPN:


ESPN cashes in on sport’s digital expansion


Live sport is continuing to drive television growth and young audiences are driving it like no other sector, according to ESPN International’s managing director Russell Woolf.

Despite conventional thinking suggesting young viewers are abandoning television, ESPN is seeing its broadcast numbers grow globally, boosted by multiplatform sports offerings on the back of younger audiences.

“What we’re seeing in Australia is you’re continuing to see the rise of live sports and the emergence of a new young audience,” Wolff says.

“The emergence of the young 18-34 audience on ESPN is growing like crazy and overall we’re up in high double digits in television.

“It just reinforces the importance on live programming and on focusing on that young emerging audience who still love live sports and are actually more interested than their parents were in the global sports environment.”

Woolf says younger sports fans, particularly in the US and here, still love their local leagues, whether it be the AFL or NFL, but they now have many more global sporting interests to watch.

John Kosner, the executive vice-president of ESPN Digital and Print Media says technology has helped, not hindered, the popularity of sports broadcasting because “all of us can plug into whatever we care about”.

“You have this incredible intersection at this point in time, of the explosion of mobile devices, and explosion of third party social networks, which are creating new kinds of behaviour,” Kosner says.

“Young fans have always been interested in sports but their enjoyment has been enhanced by their ability to get real time information, to follow the athletes and teams themselves and to connect with each other.”

ESPN is pushing those connections with its broad range of news, magazine and video content across all platforms. Its main espn.com platform will be relaunched this week with a cleaner, more tailored interface integrating video and social with news and results. ESPN expects to have an enhanced Australian version of the site tailored in the medium term.

ESPN is already the number one digital sports network in *Australia, but Kosner says the network appreciates that the new website pushes primarily American sports to global consumers.

“What we haven’t done yet, which we’re going to do, is go the other way and create fantastic coverage of sports here that could be available to anybody who cares about them anywhere in the world.”

It anticipates increasing coverage of the AFL and NRL in particular after having recently improved its ESPNscrum rugby union site. Its ESPNcricinfo site remains the indispensable global cricket site, while the sports behemoth also has its high-end *digital offerings such as Grantland and Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight site growing as they appeal to a high-end consumer.

ESPN’s local Footytips site is approaching one million Australian users and Woolf says that acquisition has become an attractive proposition with its young, affluent and connected audience.

Kosner and Woolf are in Australia for the cricket World Cup, for which ESPN holds the US and Caribbean broadcast rights. The company introduced a direct-to- consumer product for those markets as an experiment, and is encouraged by subscriptions there ($US99.99 for the entire event; $US19.99 for yesterday’s final).

The US has a big cricket market; it is the second biggest market for the cricinfo site globally behind India. ESPN broadcast its Cricinfo Match Point TV from Sydney’s Mrs Macquarie’s Chair during the World Cup. Two programs are being produced: one for the US and another for the rest of the world. They follow the sports broadcaster’s dictum that it must be a live medium whenever possible. “We’re providing a program before and after the game, for a game we don’t even have (the rights to),” Wolff says.

He says ESPN is not perturbed about the NFL’s announcement that it will allow a London match to be screened exclusively on a digital platform. While it is viewed as a sporting code’s first major step towards its own distribution, Woolf says: “This is about exploring a new way to do things digitally only and potentially new partners. We have a great long-term deal with the NFL. We’re very comfortable with our relationship with them.”

As yet, the digital giants the NFL might hope want to expand the sporting rights pie, such as YouTube, Netflix or Facebook, haven’t shown any interest. And that is good for broadcasters.

“We see live sports as one of the linchpins of television, whether its free-to-air television or multi*channel subscription television,”’ Wolff says. “The value of live sports has never been greater in a world of DVRs and time shifting.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...igital-expansion/story-e6frg996-1227283726105

ESPN is a US$50 billion organisation; they're now the biggest digital sports provider in Australia and are already the biggest sports provider in the world full stop.

Strategically, targeting full coverage of the NRL in a deal similar to the one the NRL hoped Fox would offer them with simulcast etc would give them rapid and unprecedented growth in the Australian market AND improve international exposure for Rugby League in a critical market like the US.

Now this week we hear that the ESPN has made it known they're open for talks with the NRL... something is afoot here and it may explain just why the shrieking hyenas at News Ltd have been so relentless.
 

whall15

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If us NRL fans are gonna have a crack at every afl person who says. "Our TV deal is 2.5 times as big as nrl "

We need to acknowledge that we can't compare fox ratings between nrl and afl ...

A lot of their games are simulcast by different states.

So the swans v giants would have been shown nationally on fox and in Sydney on seven mate.

Do we honestly think if last night's game was shown on fox and CH 9 at the same time it would still get 340k viewers on fox ??

Huge ratings for the 7mate broadcast.


https://twitter.com/MediaweekAUS/status/635236105311285248
 

Cletus

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If us NRL fans are gonna have a crack at every afl person who says. "Our TV deal is 2.5 times as big as nrl "

We need to acknowledge that we can't compare fox ratings between nrl and afl ...

A lot of their games are simulcast by different states.

So the swans v giants would have been shown nationally on fox and in Sydney on seven mate.

Do we honestly think if last night's game was shown on fox and CH 9 at the same time it would still get 340k viewers on fox ??

Yes, why would you watch it on 9 if you have Foxtel? Pretty sure it's in HD on Fox. It would effect 9s ratings, not the Fox ratings.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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I think we need to just call this what it is: a full scale war on our game by News Ltd.

When they lost their first and last rights after the last deal, the fall out was so massive at news that heads rolled at the top in Australia. Now the full results of that independence and the risks it poses have become clear, Murdoch has come here in person to rally his troops for a sustained assault on our game, which he now says he hates.

This is why i reckon NRL people should start a public war...

These articles make me (and i imagine you lot too) hate NewsLtd and in turn makes me feel protective of RL. Its something that NRL should be harnessing
 

Desert Qlder

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This is why i reckon NRL people should start a public war...

These articles make me (and i imagine you lot too) hate NewsLtd and in turn makes me feel protective of RL. Its something that NRL should be harnessing

When your enemy is flailing about without landing a punch, let him tire.

He either makes a mistake or opens himself up.
 

colly

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Mascord, from SMH... I agree FU TelFox /Foxtel
Back in 1994, pay television was but a twinkling in Australia's eye. But ARL head honchos John Quayle and Ken Arthurson had an idea: why don't we start our own television channel? The one problem: they had already given the pay-TV rights to Kerry Packer for nothing. NewsCorp came knocking and, voila, the Super League War. The NRL is now completely free of News for the first time since then – and Fox Sports reportedly plans not to speak to the League for another two years. Surely an NRL-owned (and even operated) station should be back on the agenda. Fans would forgive a shortfall in revenue if they got an extra free game a week and didn't have to go through a middle-man for the others. Set of Six has little sympathy for clubs allegedly planning a rebellion. We don't even care if you do slam the door on the way out.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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This will be a confirmation of the long suspected but apparently Fox Sports were stalling the negotiations. Changing their minds on different issues, offering different things then taking them back to create an atmosphere of total confusion.

The 9-Fox offer Rothfield reported on was a stalling attempt to get the NRL to reconsider/delay their decision but it never had 9's endorsement at all.

As we know the NRL started negotiations early to preempt a Fox-10 noncompetitive bid. The NRL got wind that Fox were going to delay until the ACCC approval then pull out of the 9 offer.

Then Fox would have refused to partner with any other F2A network. There would have been no expansion. No Saturday Night on F2A. Monday nights would remain. No reduced season/stand alone origin. No extra F2A coverage. Telstra would be forced onto the NRL as a digital rights partner. Plus the price would be $1.7 billion and the AFL would still have signed for $2.5 billion.

Now News Limited are trying to get the 9 deal broken.

Im honestly hoping the NRL drop fox and head to ESPN and have the game broadcast on Fetch
 
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