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Next TV rights deal

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Johnny88

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Looks like Nine will be hard to knock off for the nrl rights. Ten should partner up with Foxtel and eliminate Nine. This will be a great battle.
Wish Fox could broadcast all games live in HD for the next tv deal.
 

Starkers

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Ch 9 would be mad not to at least push up the price of the AFL rights, unless of course they're all going to behave like a cartel and not bid on each others turf. If 7/10 secure AFL at 1.4b it would leave them with a shot in the locker at the NRL and push the price up for 9/Fox.

Part of me just hopes Ch 9 misses the rights to 10/Fox. I can't f**ken stand Rabs any longer.
 

GongPanther

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Ch 9 would be mad not to at least push up the price of the AFL rights, unless of course they're all going to behave like a cartel and not bid on each others turf. If 7/10 secure AFL at 1.4b it would leave them with a shot in the locker at the NRL and push the price up for 9/Fox.

Part of me just hopes Ch 9 misses the rights to 10/Fox. I can't f**ken stand Rabs any longer.


It's that unfair Parra connection,Stero and Rabs,with Nine that determined for years what young viewers were exposed to.

And purposefully as a result,Parramatta received unhealthy favoritism for years from that channel and no wonder are now one of Sydney's most favored clubs.The year 2012,Parra came last yet how many Friday night matches where they on in 2013?...5 Friday and 1 Thursday.They came last again that year and how many Friday night matches for last year?...6!:lol:

Rabs has certainly looked after his own.

So it's about time the witch was dead.

Screw who came on the ladder from the year before.Each side should get it's equal share of free to air games across all timeslots although with Parra in the past being the obvious exception.

People will argue its about the game utilizing the most popular teams and as a result good for the channels return in ratings.

Be that as it may,but it still is unfair for such teams like the Gold Coast,Cronulla,etc who are disadvantaged by not getting that kind of exposure so they can themselves attract newer fans.

Over a number of years,those "lowly sides" will generate more fans.

Whats the point of the bigger clubs in getting all the primetime slots,and getting more exposure,when at the same time other clubs are disadvantaged?

If the NRL are serious in growing the sport,you can't sow seeds in just a couple parts of the lawn.

My 3 cents worth.(adjusted for inflation)
 

Desert Qlder

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Love how they always compare the total of the current AFL broadcast deal including digital rights with the NRL broadcast deal excluding them.

But I was shocked to see a Melbourne paper admit that their GF was below the NRL GF and Origin.

Readers have reportedly been offered counseling having just learned this.
 

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But I was shocked to see a Melbourne paper admit that their GF was below the NRL GF and Origin.

Readers have reportedly been offered counseling having just learned this.

especially considering last week they were all told that the AFL GF was in 'danger of not being the highest rating game of the year'.
 

mongoose

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But I was shocked to see a Melbourne paper admit that their GF was below the NRL GF and Origin.

Readers have reportedly been offered counseling having just learned this.

Yeah who cares if their grand final was a dour 1 sided borefest, did it win the ratings though?!?
 

ek999

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It's that unfair Parra connection,Stero and Rabs,with Nine that determined for years what young viewers were exposed to.

And purposefully as a result,Parramatta received unhealthy favoritism for years from that channel and no wonder are now one of Sydney's most favored clubs.The year 2012,Parra came last yet how many Friday night matches where they on in 2013?...5 Friday and 1 Thursday.They came last again that year and how many Friday night matches for last year?...6!:lol:

Rabs has certainly looked after his own.

So it's about time the witch was dead.

Screw who came on the ladder from the year before.Each side should get it's equal share of free to air games across all timeslots although with Parra in the past being the obvious exception.

People will argue its about the game utilizing the most popular teams and as a result good for the channels return in ratings.

Be that as it may,but it still is unfair for such teams like the Gold Coast,Cronulla,etc who are disadvantaged by not getting that kind of exposure so they can themselves attract newer fans.

Over a number of years,those "lowly sides" will generate more fans.

Whats the point of the bigger clubs in getting all the primetime slots,and getting more exposure,when at the same time other clubs are disadvantaged?

If the NRL are serious in growing the sport,you can't sow seeds in just a couple parts of the lawn.

My 3 cents worth.(adjusted for inflation)

For all the shit Parra have dished up the last few years they are still one of the best supported teams in the comp, which in turn means they are one of the highest rating teams. And that simply is all 9 care about.i
 

LJC

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Get rid of Monday night football and replace it with a Matt Johns weekend review show at 7pm! Have the Monday game played on a user friendly timeslot on the weekend like it should be!

I'm sure Fox could have a go as to date they don't give a "fig" about how Mondays compromise the next weekends games of the hardest football competition in the world! And also compromising the fans not to mention the clubs big time.

Not enough is spoken of the negative impact of this ridiculous situation that ties up/hinders the NRL competition in so many ways! The TV ratings can be gained back by FOX committing to another weekend timeslot. It's worth it!
 

BuffaloRules

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No thanks...

Think I prefer watching a game on Monday night, rather than pelican Johns...

Not only should it stay, it should be on Free to Aiir with 7 or 10 paying a motza for it..

The "impact" is no different than teams backing up on the Friday night after playing on the Sunday the previous week...
 
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LJC

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No thanks...

Think I prefer watching a game on Monday night, rather than pelican Johns...

Not only should it stay, it should be on Free to Aiir with 7 or 10 paying a motza for it..

The "impact" is no different than teams backing up on the Friday night after playing on the Sunday the previous week...

Speaking to a representative of the Roosters the impact of Monday night game on the next weekend is immense!

It affects training schedules, fans, who plays on the following Friday night. It's an massive problem for the NRL and it should be fixed! Give us back our weekend footy!(Friday through to Sunday). It can work and the NRL clubs and fans will be the main winner from such a move.
 

Starkers

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I like MNF and think the benefits far outweigh the costs. They just have to start working it a bit better for each club. 16 MNF games each year, each club has one home game, each club has one away game.
 

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MNF should be promoted as event games and limited to one per club each season, the game has to brake the negative stigma around them, if clubs are so openly down on it why would fans embrace it?
 

LJC

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MNF should be promoted as event games and limited to one per club each season, the game has to brake the negative stigma around them, if clubs are so openly down on it why would fans embrace it?

We agree to disagree. I believe its one of the pivotal problems facing game planning for the next weekend.

It's the toughest football code in the world and we play Monday night football!?

Please!
Give us back our footy weekends and normality through the week.

Their are other issues confronting the game and this is one of them that is conveniently ignored by FOX, which is no great surprise but should be openly discussed by the clubs!
 
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Perth Red

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monday night = $'s from TV. For RL to drive subscriptions on Fox it has to add something to the RL fans weekly viewing. Say goodbye to Monday nights say goodbye to $15mill a year from Fox.
 

Rodney

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Does the code need that extra $15 million though?

By that time the NRL should (if it keeps going as it has) have built up a ~$150-200 million war chest.

A comp like the NFL needs monday slots because they're running 16 odd games a week and not having a Monday game costs them exposure.
Super League needs Monday and Thursday game to try and get some cash.

In the NRL's case they're in position to have the cash and other space on the weekend to insert that game.

At the moment the Monday game is a reduced exposure and turnover fixture.
The Competition is getting less eyeballs (than a normal NRL game) and the teams involved are being shorth changed in terms of opportunity cost of potential revenues.
Teams could be potentially reaching triple the viewers (on FTA) and getting 50% more attendance for these fixtures if they were on at another time rather than a Monday.

In terms of reaching more people and putting clubs in a better position than scrapping the Monday night fixture is a positive move.
 

Starkers

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some relevance to this:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/arus-225m-tv-deal-bonanza-used-to-lure-south-sydney-rabbitohs-star-greg-inglis-20150219-13j9ab.html

Rugby union's eternal boast of its worldwide popularity has paid off for Australia, rescuing the code here from insolvency and pouring enough money into their coffers for a likely stratospheric offer to Rabbitohs star Greg Inglis.

A content war in Britain between pay TV giants BSkyB and BT has forced a massive price increase in what BSkyB must pay for SANZAR matches.

Income from SANZAR broadcasting is pooled and shared among the partners, with Australia expected to receive an additional $15.5 million a year, a 52 per cent increase to $45m a year.

The deal is being "papered", as they say in the industry, with the ARU poised to announce in the next few weeks the unexpected groundbreaking major uplift in its SANZAR broadcast rights from 2016 to 2020.

The four-times increase in money Britain will pay to watch SANZAR matches is far greater than forecast by the ARU internally, or leading sports media rights externally.

ARU chief executive Bill Pulver recently hinted the forthcoming deal would rescue his administration from insolvency but did not reveal the source of the unexpected bonanza, nor the possibility some of it could be used to lure Inglis.

The funding fillip is the result of a battle to the death for British subscribers between BSkyB and BT.

Last week, they finally agreed to share the rights to English Premier League soccer, resulting in a 70 per cent increase in broadcasting income to EPL.

Each seeks to become the quad play leader across British TV, broadband, landline and mobile phone where all four services are packaged to consumers.

It has major ramifications for the NRL and AFL in Australia, with Foxtel keen to follow this strategy, using Australia's two most popular football codes as "battering rams", a description once used by Rupert Murdoch.

It is understood Fox Sports has not significantly increased its payment for SANZAR games, given the poor and falling Australian TV ratings of Super Rugby and the plateauing of viewer numbers for the Wallabies.

The average audiences on Fox Sports for Super Rugby is 99,000 for games played only in Australia and 60,000 for all Super Rugby games. The average TV audiences for NRL and AFL, also on Fox Sports, are three times greater.

However, the NRL and AFL's income from overseas viewers is minimal and initiatives by rugby league bosses in Britain and Australia to stage the World Club Series is a laudable attempt to widen the market.

A likely new entrant in the British pay TV market, Discovery Channel - owner of Eurosport - is guaranteed to further drive competition.

The ARU's share of SANZAR broadcasting income has also been enhanced by a proportion of revenue from the sale of the TV rights to South Africa and New Zealand's domestic competitions being pooled.

Forrner ARU boss John O'Neill was furious that South Africa was able to sell its rights to its Currie Cup competition independently and before the SANZAR rights were negotiated, as New Zealand did with its ITM Cup.

These games were sold at disproportionately higher prices than their audiences justified, but the new relationship is more equitable to Australia.

The SANZAR pool has also received an increase in rights values from New Zealand, as a result of competitive tension from the start up of online streamed broadcaster Coliseum.

Coliseum, which has acquired the New Zealand broadcasting rights to EPL and European rugby, has challenged Sky NZ, the current SANZAR broadcaster.

In NZ, unlike Australia, the leading sports are broadcast only on the Sky NZ pay TV platform because there is no free-to-air TV protection mechanism, similar to Australia's anti-siphoning regulations, which ensures Wallabies games must be broadcast on FTA TV.

Sky NZ is an independent publicly listed NZ media company, one of the most profitable in the world, mainly because of its exclusive ownership of all NZ rugby broadcast rights.

South Africa has also increased its contribution to the SANZAR pool via the country's leading pay TV broadcaster Super-Sport. Rugby broadcasts in South Africa are very popular with average audiences in excess of 650,000, six times greater than Australian TV audiences for Super Rugby games.

The falling Australian dollar has also been a bonanza. SANZAR broadcast rights deals are sold in US dollars, meaning the devaluation of the Australian dollar has resulted already in a 16 per cent increase in the rights values for the ARU.

The new SANZAR broadcasting deal will mean all Wallabies games will be broadcast live on Channel Ten and Fox Sports. Super Rugby games, both in Australia and overseas, will be broadcast live on Fox Sports with one Australian game a week being broadcast delayed on Ten.
 

Nerd

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I'd have to laugh if they spent some of this money getting Inglis. We all know how well that went for all the other League players they bought trying to prop up their ailing competition.
 
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