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just change all reference from AFL to NRL, and keep all quotes which were likely given in context of AFL, not NRL. amateur stuff!
 

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News Corp were quick to do a story when it said AFL even approaching them, but no contact with the NRL

http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...broadcast-rights/story-fnii5sms-1227400413088

Could Google could be drawn to bid for AFL broadcast rights?

by: Staff writer
June 16, 2015 4:40PM

COULD Google enter the bidding for the footy broadcasting rights?

Website Mumbrella earlier today reported that the AFL had approached Google about making a multi-billion dollar bid - but later changed their story to report it was actually the NRL rights involved.

When asked about the initial Mumbrella report, AFL spokesman Patrick Keane told the Herald Sun the league would not provide a running commentary on the broadcast deal.

He would not say if it had urged Google to enter a bid.

``We will seek to get the best outcome for our fans, our players and our clubs in the next agreement, but will not provide a running update on its discussions,’’ he said.

Anti-siphoning laws in Australia regulate media companies’ access to significant sporting events.
 

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won't happen. Sports rights are at a premium because TV networks need them to stop flow to SVOD, Google doesn't need it. AFL also offers no demand internationally.

I reckon its just to light a fire under Fox to show they arent the only bidders in town. The ARLC did something similar last time by threatening to take all their games to FTA.

The money YouTube would bring in may not even reach a lowball offer from Fox, but it would be enough to live off if it PayTV tried to undervalue the game again.......

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http://mumbrella.com.au/nrl-approac...pped-to-split-games-across-tv-networks-299824


Multiple sources have sought to play down the likelihood of the online giant entering the fray this time around, but have also expressed concern about the potential for it to be used by the code as a “stalking horse” to force the networks to up their price or encourage the networks to launch a joint bid with the likes of Seven and Ten.
There you go...
 
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Good move from the NRL, flexing its muscle and keeping the traditional media partners on their toes.

It'd be nice if Google did bid for at least some sort of content and win, goes without saying that their global reach & appeal could be of great benefit to us.
 

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Good move from the NRL, flexing its muscle and keeping the traditional media partners on their toes.

It'd be nice if Google did bid for at least some sort of content and win, goes without saying that their global reach & appeal could be of great benefit to us.

Yeah, so Vince Vaughn & Owen Wilson could be commentators
 

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The NRL having a partnership with Google and Youtube would be absolutely awesome. Having said that, agree with the idea that it's just the NRL testing the waters and introducing more competition into bidding which would hopefully see a higher deal
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...y-broadcast-negotiations-20150616-ghpl5n.html

NRL engages Google in revolutionary broadcast negotiations

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June 16, 2015 - 10:00PM

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

Google has a seat at the negotiating table for the NRL's broadcast rights in a shock development that could revolutionise how sport is consumed.

The governing body has approached the multinational about the prospect of streaming live games as part of an expected shift towards digital coverage. Traditional free-to-air and pay-television broadcasters have been engaged in negotiations since late April – well before the current rights deal expires in 2017 – in a bid to create competitive tension and to get in before rival code AFL.

However, the inclusion of Google in discussions shapes as a potential game changer, although the anti-siphoning laws present potential challenges in live streaming.

"The NRL is talking to a range of parties about broadcast rights but we will not be commenting further while the process is under way," an NRL spokesperson said.

However, a Google spokesperson confirmed to media publication Mumbrella that talks between the parties had begun. "From time to time we do talk to organisations about what they might do in the online world," a spokesperson said.

The NRL is considering several approaches to the current negotiations, including selling separately the highly lucrative State of Origin series. The three interstate games alone are estimated to be worth up to $500,000 a minute, although a separate sale could devalue the worth of the competition games proper. Global Media and Sports boss Colin Smith, who worked for the NRL on the last TV deal and has also advised the AFL and ARU in previous negotiations, predicted Google's entry into the fray would put "upward pressure" on the asking price.

"If you have the view that young people stay with smartphones and tablets [in favour of traditional television], digital in the next 10 years becomes the pre-eminent media," Smith told Fairfax Media from Malta on Tuesday night.

"The challenge is capturing these young people, which plays into the likes of Google either through YouTube or their Chromecasts.

"The other players in that are Telstra but also the likes of Netflix as well. It could happen in this round but, if not, certainly in the next round [of rights]. The only question is when, because it's absolutely critical.

"Australia would be a great test market because it is yet to happen in Europe or the US that one of these 'disruptors' enters sports rights."

Even before the latest developments, Smith predicted the next agreement could be worth up to $2 billion – a marked increase on the current $1.2 billion contract with the Nine Network, Fox Sports and SKY New Zealand. Telstra, currently the digital rights partner, will have several new competitors to retain rugby league.

At present, NRL matches, Origin and Tests involving the Kangaroos are on the anti-siphoning list. However, if the offering is provided free there could be an argument that it complies with the laws, as long as significant download costs don't arise.

Smith described the NRL's negotiations as a canny way of increasing the value of its product.

"It's an interesting series of negotiations … and whatever happens in the NRL, the AFL will follow," he said.

"If you look at some of the deals done in the UK, with 400 per cent increase in Super Rugby, it shows you there has been a whole re-pricing, northwards, of sports media rights."
 

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To me, there is no reason why the NRL cannot be an innovator by broadcasting in this fashion. The administration needs to be truly bold and establish itself as a market leader on this. Should Smith and the negotiating team pull off such a deal it would cement their tenure as a success.

The pressure here appears to be on Telstra, who really have a sweetheart deal in which they are chronically poor performers. The current app and it's service are very basic, not user-friendly and unreliable. If Google could partner to create an entirely new subscription service this would be a brilliant mode of delivery and a revenue stream also.

The beauty of it would be the ability to watch games on multiple platforms, from phones through to the largest of televisions. Also, I don't see the same pressure being applied to the NRL regarding scheduling from an organisation like Google. We need to free ourselves from those constraints and awful ideas like Thursday Night Football, while at the same time generating appropriate revenue.

Network Television is a dying business model (no wonder dinosaur organisations like News Ltd. are continuing to invest in them), which will soon be the province of extremist political or religious entities. I see no responsibility on the shoulders of Rugby League to assist it in any way.

It is a complete no-brainer for me. When can I sign up?
 
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Another article from today's Sydney Morning Herald -

Google and NRL: a new league of secret rights discussions?

Date: 17 June 2015
Elizabeth Knight
Business columnist

Even the spectre of Google being courted by the NRL as a potential bidder for digital rights is causing neck hairs to stand on end in the media and communications industry.

Officially, there has been no comment from either the NRL or Google.
Google has plenty of form in doing deals with premier sporting bodies around the world and it makes perfect sense that it may take an interest in the digital rights to the game.


And you can't blame the NRL for attempting to squeeze out the biggest price possible for the rights to show the games.

Doing a deal with Google would not detract from the regulatory requirement that the big games get shown on free-to-air television live.
Ultimately, the only part that Google can get its hands on are the digital rights – and these are owned by Telstra.

Thus, it seems pretty unlikely that Google would bid for the entire package of NRL rights and offload the majority of it to free-to-air and pay-TV operators.

Given the free-to-air networks are something of a protected species when it comes to broadcasting marquee sporting events, the NRL's auction can only really have three bidders in the room. And given Ten can't afford it, the interested parties falls to two. Generally one of the two financially viable networks picks up the AFL (Seven) and the other the NRL (Nine).
Foxtel is the only traditional pay-television provider so it picks up some of each code. It is all pretty neat.

Indeed, given this landscape both football codes have done well to extract as big a price as they have until now.

The potential for Google to enter the auction room is interesting if it is true. The NRL is presumably looking for someone to pitch in a bid against Telstra which now has them – having paid $100 million in 2012 for five seasons.

Google has got plenty of form around the world doing deals with sporting codes. Earlier this year it nutted out a contract with the US National Football League to show highlights, post game recaps, clips and analysis. In 2013, it made a deal for the online broadcast of All Blacks games internationally and it has also previously signed deals to broadcast online the Twenty20 Indian Premier League competition.

Running full NRL games on YouTube is certainly someone that falls within
its operating model.

Thus, the NRL is probably looking for some competitive tension in the bidding for digital rights.

Over time an increasing number of people are turning to digital services to consume content. In theory, the digital rights will become more valuable.
The big sporting codes have been relying on the free-to-air broadcasters and Foxtel to hand over increasing amounts of money each time the rights are re-negotiated.

It is rumoured both codes are looking to trouser around $2 billion in the next five-year round of negotiations.

What appear to be optimistic expectations are set against the backdrop of a sluggish advertising market for television and increased competition from video-streaming services for free-to-air television and particularly for Foxtel.

On the one hand, the increased competition for eyeballs will place additional pressure on the free-to-air players and Foxtel to secure high rating sport. On the other hand, the competition reduces their ability to pay too much and sacrifice profitability.

But there is a clear trend towards the owners of content bypassing traditional media intermediaries like television networks and using over-the-top mechanisms to programs direct to an audience. Some international sporting bodies run their own apps and Netflix is a prime example of a service that does the same thing with television series.
 

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Great developments. Let's hope the NRL administration are smart enough to move away from the crony capitalism that pervades the media in this country, amongst a host of other industries.
 

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Meh... more money for the game is good, but it will just give people more options on how to watch. It's something to compete with the NRL network I suppose.
 

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Some exciting times ahead with how sport and NRL in particular will be covered. Certainly has changed a lot in the 40 plus years I have been following game.
 

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The official nrl live stream has grown since last year. When i found out about it last year it was only 3-400 a game. Last monday night had over 2k watching live.

Remember this is the stream where you need to be overseas to watch.
 

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The official nrl live stream has grown since last year. When i found out about it last year it was only 3-400 a game. Last monday night had over 2k watching live.

Remember this is the stream where you need to be overseas to watch.

Where are these figures from?
 

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Competition for at least the digital rights in NZ, and maybe even the lot considering the same company outbid sky for the EPL rights. Also interest in the global streaming rights for the NRL. I get the impression that the NRL have been proactively working these new SVOD players for a while.

John Drinnan: Spark aims to be in Sky's league

By John Drinnan

The Spark-owned video-on-demand service Lightbox will be bidding for streaming rights for NRL games, forcing Sky to defend its stranglehold on mainstream TV sport.

Sport is what keeps New Zealanders wedded to Sky, and about 75 per cent of its subscribers pay extra for the sports package.

But Lightbox chief executive Kym Niblock makes no bones about it - Spark wants to get sporty.

"We made it clear at the start we wanted to be an alternative to Sky," she said.

Negotiations have now begun for the 2017 season. But how deep are Spark's pockets if Sky decides to shell out more money to keep Lightbox out of the picture?

Sky has its own video-on-demand service, Neon, but is unlikely to offer live games there.

Sky chief executive John Fellet insists Sky does not have endless resources, even for important content like rugby league - something that was apparent back in 2013 when it risked losing league rights rather than meet NRL demands for a big increase in prices. Sky picked up the streaming rights to the NRL at that time, but only in a short-term deal.

Those rights were used for a "Fan Pass" internet TV package, where subscribers pay for a single competition. Sky will deny it, but in my opinion Fan Pass is an expensive package that seemed designed to keep the competition out, rather than offer consumers a choice.

Now those rights are up for renewal, and Sky is under pressure from a raft of newcomers such as Lightbox.

Back in 2013 Sky played brinkmanship and ignored the NRL demands. As a result, it secured the rights in a real nail-biter, right on the day the season began.

Sky is still really the only player in New Zealand for broadcast rights, as used by traditional TV services.

But a lot of companies are now looking at streaming.

Sky's competition this time looks to be coming from Lightbox Sport, which is a joint venture with Coliseum Sport, the company which made its name by winning streaming rights to the English Premier League soccer competition.

And it appears that Coliseum will also be seeking global rights to stream the NRL, making it a significant bidder in the negotiations. Coliseum would then sell off streaming rights to other countries to recoup its costs.

Niblock confirmed that Lightbox's sports joint venture with Coliseum would be pursuing streaming rights for the NRL, and for other codes as they come up.

"I can tell you we are talking to the codes and that the NRL is very attractive," she said, stressing that negotiations were still in their early stages.

But it is important for Lightbox to make its New Zealand subscription services more mainstream.

If it could offer a cheaper package for a streamed NRL than Sky's Fan Pass, that could help Lightbox break through.

In Australia, the Age newspaper has reported that Google and the telco Optus will be seeking streaming rights to the NRL.

Sports rights negotiations have many permutations, but they are largely built around the sellers making as much money as they can. Some sports codes look to sell full packages of rights to consortiums of buyers. Sometimes rights are sold individually.

But with the entry of global players such as Google, the sports rights game is getting very complicated.

It may be that Google would seek to obtain rights beyond Australia, to screen games and highlights on YouTube.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11467422
 
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