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Agree harden up you girls, i call my mates gay c___ts all the time......i do not however call gay people gay c__ts..
I have a mate who is heterosexually challenged, and he calls himself a gay c--t.
Agree harden up you girls, i call my mates gay c___ts all the time......i do not however call gay people gay c__ts..
Firstly, I'm anti religious so gobble the knob of your favourite fictitious idol such as Jesus, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Seriously, being 14 years old and a very real potential victim of sexual assault, don't you think the perpetrator had paedophilic intentions?
What would be your take on things if I was a 14 year old female at the time?
Ohhhh....shock.....horror.....and so on.
You appear to condone homosexuality but shun paedophilia. In my experience, they have a very definite correlation.
Firstly, I'm anti religious so gobble the knob of your favourite fictitious idol such as Jesus, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Seriously, being 14 years old and a very real potential victim of sexual assault, don't you think the perpetrator had paedophilic intentions?
What would be your take on things if I was a 14 year old female at the time?
Ohhhh....shock.....horror.....and so on.
You appear to condone homosexuality but shun paedophilia. In my experience, they have a very definite correlation.
Agree harden up you girls, i call my mates gay c___ts all the time......i do not however call gay people gay c__ts..
I hope youre trolling, no one is this dumb...
Jeff Kennett in gay football storm
6 years ago July 27, 2008 12:00AM
FORMER state premier Jeff Kennett has provoked a gay rights storm by backing a football club that sacked a trainer for being gay.
The Hawthorn president and potential Melbourne lord mayor sparked calls for his sacking after saying Bonnie Doon Football Club was within its rights to sack veteran trainer Ken Campagnolo after it found out he was gay.
"The club felt that once this had been pointed out and you had this gentleman there who was obviously close to young men - massaging young men - it ran an unnecessary risk and that's why it decided it was best that he not perform those duties again. So the club was trying to do the right thing," Mr Kennett said.
"When you are in charge of a group of young boys, as this club was as I understand it, it's got to make sure."
Mr Kennett said it was as if the club had a pedophile trainer.
"It's the same if you have a pedophile there as a masseur, right?"
"And you might say the pedophile would do no damage, but once it was pointed out to you, you have a duty of care to those underage children not to put them in a situation of risk."
He could not guarantee a gay trainer would be welcome at Hawthorn, adding: "I don't know if we've got any.
"I'm just saying at the moment we have a duty of care to our players and staff and you have to make judgments on that. If you don't do it you end up with potential legal liability."
Mr Campagnolo is fighting the Bonnie Doon Football Club, the AFL and Benalla and District Football League in the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal over his 2007 sacking.
On Friday, the AFL failed in a bid to have his complaint against it struck out, with the tribunal ruling the matter must go to mediation.
Mr Campagnolo said he was appalled by Mr Kennett's remarks.
"I am not a pedophile. Does that mean every straight male doctor cannot treat any female patient?" he said.
Rodney Croome, of the Australian Coalition for Equality, said: "Jeff Kennett should immediately step aside from his role in Beyond Blue."
Agree with that. This guy missing two games for what amounts to an off-the-cuff statement is silliness. Would he banned for saying 'you f**king merkin'? Nope. So it's basically the gay thing that costs him two weeks.
We're so quick in this day and age to be wowzers about anything that 'could' cause offence. Or I should qualify that, the media are. Hardly anything they write nowadays is reflective of the public view - which they mistakenly believe it to be.
Interesting where the line is.
Will someone be suspended if they say 'you f**king spastic.'?
Someone said it will be interesting where the line is set.
It gets set at zero tolerance. Yes every now and then we see players yell out f**k when they do something dumb. But their really is no need to say anything disgusting to any player.
You set the line at zero tolerance and go from there, like New York set the city at zero tolerance for scumbags in the city. And it worked.
Why lower the bar, we should be raising the sucker, keep up or get out.
Wow.
AS A person who was born in rural Queensland, and who has lived in Queensland her whole life, I am a fan of NRL. It is in my blood. It is who I am.
Another aspect of who I am is that I am a lesbian. These two sections of me have gone together as nicely as New South Wales and Queensland at State of Origin time (thats not very nicely at all, for you AFL supporters).
I love going to games, I love supporting my team, but what I dont love is listening to homophobic slur after homophobic slur being thrown around casually by players and supporters.
Halfway into the game, the tense feeling throughout your body becomes too much. The brick in your stomach that appears in anticipation of overhearing the next homophobic insult weighs you down, and you stop being able to enjoy the game.
So I was very pleased when the NRL recently committed itself to eliminating homophobia, and homophobic language from the game.
I was even more pleased when the NRL swiftly turned their words into action when young Wests Tigers player Mitchell Moses was caught calling an opposition player a F***ing gay c*** during a game.
The NRL swiftly suspended Moses for two games and ordered him to undergo an anti-vilification and education program.
This was a very positive step. Homophobia in sport is an incredibly widespread issue that is only beginning to be addressed, and this was a sign that the NRL was taking it seriously.
Language is power.
Whe I was 17, I was on the cusp of coming out to someone I was close to and cared about when I heard that person use the word androtrop.
It would be another three years before I worked up the courage to come out to anyone. Language is power.
Young queer people already have much higher risks of suicide than their heterosexual counterparts.
Language is power.
Homophobia is rampant in sport, especially in hyper-masculine sports like NRL.
How are young gay people, those who play the game, support the game, and love the game, ever meant to feel like they belong in the sporting community, and how will they ever feel safe and comfortable unless the NRL takes these kind of steps to make it so?
It is astonishing to me that anyone could take issue with an organisation trying to stop homophobia, and I hope the NRL ignores those people and continues to do the right thing.
All that the players have to do is change their behaviour slightly to become more decent human beings, and not use homophobic language (just as they have done with racist language). Simple, right?
It has been suggested that Moses was hard-done-by, that because young people today use gay to mean lame, dumb or stupid, he should not be punished under the NRLs anti-homophobia guidelines
Mitchell Moses during the U20's State of Origin match. (Photo by Brendon Thorne/Getty Images) Source: Getty Images
There are a lot of problems with this idea, but let me just narrow it down to a couple. First of all, even if this is true, how do we know that Moses wasnt using it in the homophobic way? Its been suggested that because Bateman isnt gay, it is proof that Moses didnt mean it in a homophobic way.
This is disingenuous, at best. Surely everyone knows that this is not how language works, or how language is used. Calling another person gay as an insult, no matter the sexuality of its target, is homophobic.
Besides, is it more likely that in the heat of a macho, testosterone-filled football game that Moses was calling Bateman a F***king lame/dumb c***? Or is it more likely that he was using it in a way to insult Batemans masculinity- to imply that Bateman is homosexual, feminine, weak, or the other (all incorrect) stereotypes homophobes have in their (tiny) minds?
I am no Sherlock Holmes, but I think I know the answer.
In any case, what Moses meant exactly by using that term is actually irrelevant.
The idea that because some people use gay as a synonym for lame or stupid or various other negative attributes is not okay, and it is certainly still homophobic.
It makes it clear to everyone who hears it that being gay is an insult. That being gay is bad in some way, and you should avoid it.
That argument doesnt help to still my heart when I am sitting in the stands and hear someone behind me shout it out in anger. And it certainly doesnt help the 17-year-old closeted rugby league player somewhere in Australia who is too terrified to come out.
Just because some young people now use gay to mean something different, for as long as some same-sex attracted people still identify with the word gay (and most do), and use that word to describe themselves (and they do), it should be a completely unacceptable way to insult someone.
Young queer people already have much higher risks of suicide than their heterosexual counterparts.
Agree with that. This guy missing two games for what amounts to an off-the-cuff statement is silliness. Would he banned for saying 'you f**king merkin'? Nope. So it's basically the gay thing that costs him two weeks.
We're so quick in this day and age to be wowzers about anything that 'could' cause offence. Or I should qualify that, the media are. Hardly anything they write nowadays is reflective of the public view - which they mistakenly believe it to be.
Yeah, only other gay people really use the word queer...that's quite odd.Kind of hypocritical to use the word queer in that story - It's similar to "gay" being that it's original meaning is now lost
Queer
adjective strange; odd.
"she had a queer feeling that they were being watched"
verb
spoil or ruin (an agreement, event, or situation). "Reg didn't want someone meddling and queering the deal at the last minute"
FTR I use the word queer a lot - But not in relation to being homosexual - But in it's REAL meaning, i.e. strange