Non-eels footy stuff

[Gronk]

 

[Gronk]

 

[parrathruandthru]

they wont use it once the nrl realises how many forward passes there are in a game. It will go off every set

 

[Gronk]

they wont use it once the nrl realises how many forward passes there are in a game. It will go off every set

It won't know physics as good as Mik.

 

[strider]

the whole "out of the handles backwards" thing makes it completely pointless surely ...... thats always been the grey area

 

[Gronk]

What Finchy says


What the NRL says

 

[Gronk]

Izzy can sniff out the $$$

 

[Gary Gutful]

What Finchy says


What the NRL says

I reckon this will get ugly. PVL needs to listen to the players.

 

[T.S Quint]

Cam Smith retired just in time.

 

[84 Baby]

Cam Smith retired just in time.

He’s the expert on forward passes they consulted to invent the tech

 

[Gronk]

I reckon this will get ugly. PVL needs to listen to the players.

The players: you should have stopped them hitting me in the head !

Also the players: FFS I need time to stop hitting people in the head !

 

[Gary Gutful]

The players: you should have stopped them hitting me in the head !

Also the players: FFS I need time to stop hitting people in the head !

Also the players: Lets consult and make sure that we don't make any rash decisions. Its a complex issue.

PVL: What do you mean? I've already 'sorted it' FFS.

 

[Gronk]

Also the players: Lets consult and make sure that we don't make any rash decisions. Its a complex issue.

PVL: What do you mean? I've already 'sorted it' FFS.

The only change to the PVL iron fist approach should be a discretionary 5 min yellow card.

Otherwise ....

 

[84 Baby]

The only change to the PVL iron fist approach should be a discretionary 5 min yellow card.

Otherwise ....

You don’t believe the people who are both the sole perpetrators and sole victims should be consulted?

 

[Gronk]

You don’t believe the people who are both the sole perpetrators and sole victims should be consulted?

This goes beyond appeasing stakeholders. There was no easy way when you mandate change, like seatbelts, bike helmets, pool fences etc. When it comes down to a billion dollar business being derelict in their duty of care, you've got to draw a line in the sand and just do it. You then deal with the butt-hurt accordingly. Unlike the NFL who pretended it wasn't a problem until it was a problem, we need to be agile and on the front foot. You need to be able to demonstrate to the court (yes there will be claims) that the NRL did all things necessary to mitigate head injures as the science became available.

The litigation shit storm has just hit the UK.

The UK concussion court case may destroy the NRL

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/12/16/the-uk-concussion-court-case-may-destroy-the-nrl/

 

[Gary Gutful]

You don’t believe the people who are both the sole perpetrators and sole victims should be consulted?

Nah. F**k them.

Its f**ken easy to unilaterally decide something in a ham fisted manner and then claim you've solved it. But its not leadership.

Much harder to meaningfully engage and come up with sensible solutions to complex problems. The NRL and PVL might have even learnt a thing or two during the process.

 

[Gary Gutful]

This goes beyond appeasing stakeholders. There was no easy way when you mandate change, like seatbelts, bike helmets, pool fences etc. When it comes down to a billion dollar business being derelict in their duty of care, you've got to draw a line in the sand and just do it. You then deal with the butt-hurt accordingly. Unlike the NFL who pretended it wasn't a problem until it was a problem, we need to be agile and on the front foot. You need to be able to demonstrate to the court (yes there will be claims) that the NRL did all things necessary to mitigate head injures as the science became available.

The litigation shit storm has just hit the UK.

The UK concussion court case may destroy the NRL

https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/12/16/the-uk-concussion-court-case-may-destroy-the-nrl/

Thats a key driving factor and a significant negotiating point for the NRL but it doesn't excuse lack of consultation.

In fact, there's strong evidence to suggest that their actions may not even reduce concussion, or worse still increase concussion rates to defenders who are forced to tackle lower.

Poorly managed, knee-jerk stuff from the NRL.

 

[Gronk]

Thats a key driving factor and a significant negotiating point for the NRL but it doesn't excuse lack of consultation.

In fact, there's strong evidence to suggest that their actions may not even reduce concussion, or worse still increase concussion rates to defenders who are forced to tackle lower.

Poorly managed, knee-jerk stuff from the NRL.

Lack of consultation ? You're talking as if PVL pulled this out of his arse one morning. They have been building for this and the clubs were aware

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-players/management-of-concussion/
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/the-players/2021-concussion-management-guidelines_2021.pdf
https://www.concussioninsport.gov.au/

In response, the ARLC will discuss introducing a concussion sub to protect player welfare for those forced to play on through injury to get through the game following a push from the RLPA and several NRL coaches.

Sharks coach John Morris admitted he is now a convert to the idea after experiencing the carnage of Saturday night, and the system is already in place in the NSW Cup.

Woods' concern is coaches would use the 18th man to exploit the rules as an extra substitution, but the concerns for player welfare appear to outweigh the risks.

"The concerns on player health and safety outweigh debate about the challenges and complexities of having an 18th man. It's got to happen now," RLPA boss Clint Newton told Newscorp.

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/7186357/woods-no-fan-of-nrl-concussion-sub-push/

 

[Gary Gutful]

Lack of consultation ? You're talking as if PVL pulled this out of his arse one morning. They have been building for this and the clubs were aware

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-players/management-of-concussion/
https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/the-players/2021-concussion-management-guidelines_2021.pdf
https://www.concussioninsport.gov.au/

In response, the ARLC will discuss introducing a concussion sub to protect player welfare for those forced to play on through injury to get through the game following a push from the RLPA and several NRL coaches.

Sharks coach John Morris admitted he is now a convert to the idea after experiencing the carnage of Saturday night, and the system is already in place in the NSW Cup.

Woods' concern is coaches would use the 18th man to exploit the rules as an extra substitution, but the concerns for player welfare appear to outweigh the risks.

"The concerns on player health and safety outweigh debate about the challenges and complexities of having an 18th man. It's got to happen now," RLPA boss Clint Newton told Newscorp.

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/7186357/woods-no-fan-of-nrl-concussion-sub-push/

I couldn't see anywhere in those links where they said they would start penalising and sin binning the shit out of anything that looks remotely like a high tackle.

No-one is suggesting that concussion issues haven't been discussed. The decision to significantly change the enforcement of the rules within the space of a week is what lacked consultation.

I can't see how its even possible to dispute this.

 

[Gary Gutful]

There is no doubt in my mind that the threat of litigation is a stronger driving factor than genuine concern about payer welfare. If player welfare was a bigger factor then they wouldn't have come up with a solution that will likely result in more players (defenders) getting concussed.

Its entirely driven by the NRL's self interest. They want to be able to point to 'action' when the inevitable litigation arises.

That might be cynical, but I reckon its accurate.

I might seem critical, but its exactly the sort of half baked shit strategy that I've had to dream up in the past to help protect a nervous CEO and Board. Fear can be a significant motivator.